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re: Greatest Voice Actor Performances

Posted on 6/2/21 at 10:55 am to
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 6/2/21 at 10:55 am to
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I'm sorry, but can you name anything from the 1920s in terms of cinema and voice acting? What a standard you set.


I love Aladdin, but he’s got a bit of a point. In 100 years most people aren’t going to understand Robin Williams’ pop culture references. Pinocchio I think they’ll still understand all of it on the other hand.
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 6/2/21 at 10:58 am to
My point is that it won’t lessen the character or the performance. He talks about loony tunes as if it’s not one of the most continuously successful franchises ever because they had a few IRL references. The genie is timeless. Did you get all those references as a kid? Did that stop you from enjoying it?

ETA: not one child understood what “Et tu, Brute” meant.
This post was edited on 6/2/21 at 11:00 am
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 6/2/21 at 11:00 am to
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I'm sorry, but can you name anything from the 1920s in terms of cinema and voice acting?


Given that the first feature-length animated film didn't come out until 1937, if you want to talk animation from a decade prior, it's going to be a short conversation.

My point is that the contemporary references Williams makes in Aladdin are not going to hold up over time the same way it does for the generation who understands 90% of the impressions he does.

Half of the jokes from the WWII Looney Tunes don't make sense unless you lived through it.
Posted by drexyl
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Posted on 6/2/21 at 11:00 am to
Bradley Cooper as Rocket Raccoon
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 6/2/21 at 11:06 am to
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Half of the jokes from the WWII Looney Tunes don't make sense unless you lived through it.


This one is pretty funny:

This post was edited on 6/2/21 at 11:07 am
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 6/2/21 at 11:06 am to
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Half of the jokes from the WWII Looney Tunes don't make sense unless you lived through it.
This is fake news and you know it. People still know about 20s pop culture... 30s... the war. We have movies and history to remind us. Things come back in style. There's something nostalgic to it and you don't have to even live through it to get references. I was born in the late 80s, but I can still laugh at Robin's Nixon jokes in Good Morning Vietnam. Same for the looney toon jokes LINK. This is almost 80 years old now and still holds up.
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 6/2/21 at 11:12 am to
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This is fake news and you know it.




I've only had this exact conversation with professional voice actors for 10 years.

You're totally right, random internet dude with an opinion. Lemme text Bob Bergen and let him know he's FOS.
Posted by BlackAdam
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Posted on 6/2/21 at 11:14 am to
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Peter Cullen as Optimus Prime


This one.

Also really loved Scatman Crothers.
Posted by southdowns84
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Posted on 6/2/21 at 11:15 am to
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 6/2/21 at 11:16 am to
You literally said that no one understands the looney tunes references from 1943. The people who lived through it (not kids who didn't know shite about what was going on) are all mostly dead. Are you sure that's what you meant?
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 6/2/21 at 11:18 am to
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You literally said that no one understands the looney tunes references from 1943.


No, I literally said that half of the jokes are lost on folks over time. I'm sorry that reading comprehension isn't your strong suit.

ETA - At the end of the day, you're getting in a froth (or at least presenting yourself as being as such) because a stranger you'll never meet doesn't think a cartoon that you watched as a kid won't hold up to future generations. Wow.
This post was edited on 6/2/21 at 11:21 am
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 6/2/21 at 11:20 am to
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Half of the jokes from the WWII Looney Tunes don't make sense unless you lived through it.
This is simply NOT true. Your claim that you have to live through something to understand a joke is false.
This post was edited on 6/2/21 at 11:22 am
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 6/2/21 at 11:25 am to


I'll let folks get back to the topic at hand. You'll have to resume your hissy fit on your own time.
Posted by When in Rome
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Posted on 6/2/21 at 11:25 am to
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Took way too long to mention Jones as Vader

Here's a CDSB (Cool Dad Story, Bro):

My dad had pretty good near-front-row tickets to a new broadway show in NYC one day. A little while after he had settled in, a man and his wife shuffled past him and sat down in the seats next to him. He instantly recognized the man, and went, "Mr. Jones?" and the man turned to him, and in that familiar low booming voice, the man replied, "Yeessss?" and my dad just gave a friendly "hello" and left it at that. I think that's how the story went; it has been years since I've heard him tell it. But I know it was a very cool moment for him, indeed. He said hearing that voice in person was surreal.
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 6/2/21 at 11:29 am to
We had a thread a few months ago about getting to meet celebs IRL. I got to talk with JEJ at a college speaking engagement, and he was awesome.
Posted by A Menace to Sobriety
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Posted on 6/2/21 at 11:59 am to
Jeremy Irons as Scar
Robin Williams as Genie
Tom Hanks as Woody

My top 3
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
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Posted on 6/2/21 at 12:51 pm to
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not one child understood what “Et tu, Brute” meant.


I mean, that's true...but kids eventfully grew up and got that reference because it's a classic. I had no clue what The Barber of Seville was as a kid, but I knew it was funny as shite when Buggs was rubbing Elmer Fudd's head with his feet.



When I eventually got the joke, it was even funnier!

How's that going to work for this in 100 years?





So many of Robin Williams' references were pop culture instead of just funny on their own. Nicholson, Dangerfield, DeNiro, even Groucho Marx. They are not nearly as evergreen as most of Disney's catalog is because of that fault. Looking back, it's actually kind of surprising some suit at Disney did not try and reign that in some with that exact worry.

Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 6/2/21 at 12:54 pm to
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Looking back, it's actually kind of surprising some suit at Disney did not try and reign that in some with that exact worry.


Because they’ll long be dead and gone by the time that’s actually relevant. Reigning in Robin’s performance probably would have seen less of a gross, so that’d be a dumb error to make in the short term.
This post was edited on 6/2/21 at 12:58 pm
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 6/2/21 at 12:59 pm to
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Reigning in Robin’s performance probably would have seen less of a gross, so that’d be a dumb error to make in the short term.


That's true...and also, probably impossible. When I typed out "reign in Robin Williams" I was actually laughing thinking of the prospect of trying to do that.
Posted by Tortious
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Posted on 6/2/21 at 1:11 pm to
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Does Darth Vader w/ James Earl Jones count?


If not the GOAT it's perhaps most iconic.
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