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re: "Gravity" Tomatometer Thread: 215 Reviews, 98% Fresh
Posted on 10/4/13 at 9:56 pm to Freauxzen
Posted on 10/4/13 at 9:56 pm to Freauxzen
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Don't Avatar yourself in this one too. Be patient until you see it
I've seen it, and it is truly excellent. I don't think it's going to age as well on DVD, but Cuaron I don't think ever intended that. He was making a film to simply be seen in theaters really, and I expect a few rereleases of it over the next several years solely because it was meant to only be shown on the big screen. There are other directors as well who I don't think care as much about the theatrical release and custom make a film for DVD, Edgar Wright and the Coen Bros being great examples. The film has much more substance than Avatar and will completely leave you on the edge of your seat.
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Even if your opinion is valid, and you were spot on in an assessment, you've already stained your ability to give it. No one can take what you say about this seriously.
And as I said earlier in the thread, I'm trying to give GCA the benefit of the doubt on his review. But as far as Man of Steel even not only being in the ballpark of this, but actually better as well as 9 other films this year being better? That's a clear troll job.
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Posted on 10/4/13 at 9:59 pm to DURANTULA
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I'm just not jumping on that idiotic GOAT bandwagon calling it 5 out of 4 stars and other such silliness.
Says the guy who thinks Man of Steel is a much more superior movie. If you said this in front of people who know a lot about film, you'd be laughed out of the room and calmly patted on the head. Take out everything but the visceral perspective of Gravity, and it's still a better film than MoS.
This post was edited on 10/4/13 at 10:00 pm
Posted on 10/4/13 at 10:10 pm to OMLandshark
There was dick character development. None. The dialogue was awful. MoS blew it away I all facets. This isn't even debatable.
Posted on 10/4/13 at 10:15 pm to DURANTULA
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There was dick character development. None. The dialogue was awful. MoS blew it away I all facets. This isn't even debatable.
i haven't seen MOS but it is very difficult to say this after what I just saw.
the dialogue was weak
please give examples.
no character development? why does there need to be any in a movie that has a real world time frame of **note could be spoiler** 4.5 hours. Why does there need to be character development when her goal is to survive not become a better person.
Posted on 10/4/13 at 10:16 pm to DURANTULA
Watch it again. Can't think of any real character development in MoS, aside from maybe Zod. Sandra Bullock changes greatly over the course of the film. You're being intentionally obtuse not to see it.
Posted on 10/4/13 at 10:18 pm to OMLandshark
I feel like I need to post in this thread. Just because.
Posted on 10/4/13 at 10:18 pm to OMLandshark
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I've seen it, and it is truly excellent. I don't think it's going to age as well on DVD, but Cuaron I don't think ever intended that. He was making a film to simply be seen in theaters really, and I expect a few rereleases of it over the next several years solely because it was meant to only be shown on the big screen. There are other directors as well who I don't think care as much about the theatrical release and custom make a film for DVD, Edgar Wright and the Coen Bros being great examples. The film has much more substance than Avatar and will completely leave you on the edge of your seat.
I agree that this won't last long on DVD but I will for sure get it on DVD well blue ray. Mainly because I think this is one of those films for people who love film because they have made movies themselves (very amature) and appretiate the techniques and the skill that go into making a movie. I think rewatching this movie I will see wow I love how he did X and Y. I think this could be one of those things that could just keep giving. It won't be as intense of course but watching a movie to see the beauty of his camera work and artful backgrounds and scenes would be amazing.
Posted on 10/4/13 at 10:21 pm to OMLandshark
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Sandra Bullock changes greatly over the course of the film. You're being intentionally obtuse not to see it.
yes she does
*****MAJOR Spoilers********
at-least from my viewing she becomes more courageous and becomes more like Matt
also MAJOR SPOLIER bellow don't read on if you haven't seen it.
IF you don't think she changed after her dream of matt coming back than you are blind.
End spoilers
Posted on 10/4/13 at 10:40 pm to catholictigerfan
For those who are curious, and no spoilers here, on what the difference between this and Avatar would be, I'll make it very simple. Avatar was a movie specifically made to form an industry and was as manipulative as a film as possible in order to grab as many people as possible into this new industry. James Cameron is really a great filmmaker, and all the things we bitch about here on that movie were carefully calculated to lure as many people as possible and hopefully make Hollywood as a whole tens of billions in the process.
Gravity is a film specifically made for a cinematic experience. I don't think this movie is intended as a launching point for anyone or anything else. It's something that can't be repeated, but I just think it was meant to be the ultimate cinematic experience to put viewers on the edge of their seat and take film as far as it can possibly go, from a special effects, tension, cinematography, and visceral standpoint. The film completely succeeds in this regard, making it a much, much better film than Avatar.
Gravity is a film specifically made for a cinematic experience. I don't think this movie is intended as a launching point for anyone or anything else. It's something that can't be repeated, but I just think it was meant to be the ultimate cinematic experience to put viewers on the edge of their seat and take film as far as it can possibly go, from a special effects, tension, cinematography, and visceral standpoint. The film completely succeeds in this regard, making it a much, much better film than Avatar.
Posted on 10/4/13 at 10:45 pm to OMLandshark
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For those who are curious, and no spoilers here, on what the difference between this and Avatar would be, I'll make it very simple. Avatar was a movie specifically made to form an industry and was as manipulative as a film as possible in order to grab as many people as possible into this new industry. James Cameron is really a great filmmaker, and all the things we bitch about here on that movie were carefully calculated to lure as many people as possible and hopefully make Hollywood as a whole tens of billions in the process.
Gravity is a film specifically made for a cinematic experience. I don't think this movie is intended as a launching point for anyone or anything else. It's something that can't be repeated, but I just think it was meant to be the ultimate cinematic experience to put viewers on the edge of their seat and take film as far as it can possibly go, from a special effects, tension, cinematography, and visceral standpoint. The film completely succeeds in this regard, making it a much, much better film than Avatar.
I'll say this quickly
Avatar multimillion dollar film that plot sucked was to poltical and only had success because of the Huge CGI budget.
Gravity, a movie where a good film maker shows off and puts out one of the best filmed and told movies of the last few years.
I put Avatar as one of my least favorite movies.
I put gravity on one of the best movies I've ever seen.
Posted on 10/4/13 at 10:48 pm to catholictigerfan
So she went from not giving a shite to giving a shite. Wow. They had dick character development. You can say that was great character development if you want, but your standards have to be bottom of the barrel low for it to be so.
Posted on 10/4/13 at 10:51 pm to OMLandshark
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I've seen it, and it is truly excellent.
Carry on praising the film then.
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I don't think it's going to age as well on DVD, but Cuaron I don't think ever intended that. He was making a film to simply be seen in theaters really, and I expect a few rereleases of it over the next several years solely because it was meant to only be shown on the big screen. There are other directors as well who I don't think care as much about the theatrical release and custom make a film for DVD, Edgar Wright and the Coen Bros being great examples. The film has much more substance than Avatar and will completely leave you on the edge of your seat.
It looks awesome, glad to hear it lives up to it.
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And as I said earlier in the thread, I'm trying to give GCA the benefit of the doubt on his review. But as far as Man of Steel even not only being in the ballpark of this, but actually better as well as 9 other films this year being better? That's a clear troll job.
I hate to call people out like that, hence my posts. If he really doesn't think it's that good, yelling at one person isn't going to be a good argument. Lay out the hows and the whys, etc.
But he admitted that he was going in expecting a 7 or 7.5/10 from the movie. Tainted viewing experience.
This post was edited on 10/4/13 at 10:52 pm
Posted on 10/4/13 at 10:53 pm to catholictigerfan
I'm still shocked people are saying the dialogue was good. Basically anything the flight commander in a Houston said was retarded, especially "shrapnel moving faster than a speeding bullet" and "the chain reaction is out of control!" And Bullock's "clear skies with a chance of satellite debris" was extremely bush league. Not to mention the howling scene.
This post was edited on 10/4/13 at 10:54 pm
Posted on 10/4/13 at 10:54 pm to Freauxzen
I need to stop watching trailers of movies 
because I never really planned to go see this movie until a couple of my friends said they were going to see it and I wanted something to do. I was actually not expecting much, and was shocked when I saw the 98% review on RT. While I did have expectations for a great movie that's all it was I had no idea what was going to happen in the movie and really its the best way to see movies. But I have an addiction to watching trailers and reading reviews. Its hard to see with very few expectations.
because I never really planned to go see this movie until a couple of my friends said they were going to see it and I wanted something to do. I was actually not expecting much, and was shocked when I saw the 98% review on RT. While I did have expectations for a great movie that's all it was I had no idea what was going to happen in the movie and really its the best way to see movies. But I have an addiction to watching trailers and reading reviews. Its hard to see with very few expectations.
Posted on 10/4/13 at 10:56 pm to The_Joker
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I'm still shocked people are saying the dialogue was good. Basically anything the flight commander in a Houston said was retarded, especially "shrapnel moving faster than a speeding bullet" and "the chain reaction is out of control!" And Bullock's "clear skies with a chance of satellite debris" was extremely bush league. Not to mention the howling scene.
that howling scene was a very clever scene, it was a central element to the development of Ryan (yes that is the name of Bullock's character) Maybe the lines weren't great but its not a diologue driven movie so it doesn't really matter how good or bad the dialogue was and there wasn't many instances of bad diologue.
This post was edited on 10/4/13 at 10:57 pm
Posted on 10/4/13 at 10:59 pm to The_Joker
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Basically anything the flight commander in a Houston said was retarded, especially "shrapnel moving faster than a speeding bullet" and "the chain reaction is out of control!" And Bullock's "clear skies with a chance of satellite debris" was extremely bush league. Not to mention the howling scene.
I agree with this to some extent, but you still need to explain to the audience in some way how fast stuff moves in space to those who don't know how space really works. Most people's extent of space knowledge comes from Star Wars, to where they actually think you can hear blasts in space. I don't mind this so much since I see the necessity for it.
I could see myself saying "clear skies with a chance of satellite debris" to try to calm myself down with my own private corny joke. And I did actually fully like the howling scene.
Posted on 10/4/13 at 11:02 pm to DURANTULA
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So she went from not giving a shite to giving a shite. Wow. They had dick character development. You can say that was great character development if you want, but your standards have to be bottom of the barrel low for it to be so.
It was either eat or be eaten at that point. I could see her wanting to go out, but her hallucination gave her drive again to live. If that happened to me, I could see myself trying to kill myself with CO2 poisoning rather than freeze or burn to death, but then maybe getting a drive of the person who saved me, knowing that I would have wasted his sacrifice if I didn't at least give survival a shot.
Posted on 10/4/13 at 11:06 pm to OMLandshark
I am a prophet:
A post made by me this morning:
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@giteshpandya
Source puts #Gravity on track for about $20M today. Wknd may break $50M for new career records for Bullock & Clooney both.
10/4/13 8:38 PM
A post made by me this morning:
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I'm gonna take a risk by going out on a limb and say this movie will make around $50 million at the box office this weekend. The high pre-sales, the star power, the incredible reviews, all of it will combine for a successful weekend.
Posted on 10/4/13 at 11:13 pm to DURANTULA
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So she went from not giving a shite to giving a shite. Wow. They had dick character development. You can say that was great character development if you want, but your standards have to be bottom of the barrel low for it to be so.
it is so much more than this and you still can't see it.
Posted on 10/4/13 at 11:17 pm to catholictigerfan
I'm done trying to show the development
have a good night everyone, watch out for flying debris
have a good night everyone, watch out for flying debris
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