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re: GoT S6: E10 "The Winds of Winter" BOOK READERS
Posted on 7/2/16 at 7:57 am to prplhze2000
Posted on 7/2/16 at 7:57 am to prplhze2000
The are going to show up to intercept Dany before she gets to Dorne. It will be Eurons only shot to get them on the sea.
Posted on 7/2/16 at 8:06 am to Rou Leed
Its really Eurons only shot at getting in the game.
Posted on 7/2/16 at 8:11 am to Rou Leed
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Its really Eurons only shot at getting in the game.
Meh. He could raid Casterly Rock. But, I agree, he's going to have to make his play soon or be relegated to irrelevance. His 1000 ships should be ready about now.
Posted on 7/2/16 at 8:13 am to Ace Midnight
Plus he has to offer his big fat cock to Dany.
I'm hoping she lands in Westeros by the end of E3 next season.
I'm hoping she lands in Westeros by the end of E3 next season.
Posted on 7/2/16 at 8:39 am to Rou Leed
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Eurons crew left on the heals of Theon and were heading for the same place. They are going to show up before dany gets to Dorne with a formidable fleet.
They build ships faster than superman could. I'm not a fan of the people that cry about "jet packing" but this seems a little passed suspension of disbelief within the context of the show
And onto the "Dorne ships wasted a trip" comment. Dany still needed ships. Dorne is a Mecca of trade for a lot of things like wine. I'm sure they were happy to ride a fleet of empty cargo ships (which will be filled with food, horses, and weapons) to Dany to show her their loyalty and to meet her in person.
Posted on 7/2/16 at 9:24 am to wildtigercat93
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Eurons crew left on the heals of Theon and were heading for the same place. They are going to show up before dany gets to Dorne with a formidable fleet
They build ships faster than superman could. I'm not a fan of the people that cry about "jet packing" but this seems a little passed suspension of disbelief within the context of the show
Another question is how are they going to build that many ships? The Iron Isles don't really have a lot of trees for 1000 ships. Not to mention the dragons could just burn the ships easily.
Posted on 7/2/16 at 10:28 am to 1BamaRTR
Given that the historical Tyrell/Tarly relationship is a similar analogy to Stark/Bolton...does Randyl make a move here and declare for the Lannisters at the last sec?
Posted on 7/2/16 at 10:35 am to 1BamaRTR
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The Iron Isles don't really have a lot of trees for 1000 ships.
Teleportation powers exist in this world. They can teleport in trees from the Godswood.
It is known.
Posted on 7/2/16 at 10:35 am to 19
quote:I doubt it.
Given that the historical Tyrell/Tarly relationship is a similar analogy to Stark/Bolton...does Randyl make a move here and declare for the Lannisters at the last sec?
But I'm really curious about Sam's motivation. His father knows where he's going, so I don't see how he's going to get away with what he did.
I think Euron either allies with the Lannisters, which would be stupid (unless they want to inflate the remaining Ironmen's numbers) or he usurps the dragons with a dragon horn. If the show does use the horn, and keeps the fatality aspect of it, I think Dany eventually gets control of it and Grey Worm sacrifices himself for her.
Does anyone else think Tyrion will be having a hard time in Dorne? Sure, he killed Tywin and is allied with Dany, but I expect at least some "never trust a Lannister" talk from the Sand Skanks, and they aren't known for their rational behavior.
Posted on 7/2/16 at 10:39 am to Esquire
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Those Dornish ships wasted a trip.
She needed more ships so I would not say it was wasted.
This post was edited on 7/2/16 at 10:55 am
Posted on 7/2/16 at 10:43 am to blueboy
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If the show does use the horn, and keeps the fatality aspect of it, I think Dany eventually gets control of it and Grey Worm sacrifices himself for her.
First of all, I don't think Dany needs the horn to control the dragons. Second, I have a theory that she can use the horn without dying, if it is even relevant.
She's the mother of dragons, after all.
This post was edited on 7/2/16 at 10:44 am
Posted on 7/2/16 at 10:56 am to Ace Midnight
quote:She does if Euron steals them away with it. It's a commmon plot device. Right now, Dany is pretty much invincible. Something has to happen to drive the conflict, and I don't think it will be the WW, until the end. That will be Jon's fight for most of the remaining story.
First of all, I don't think Dany needs the horn to control the dragons.
quote:Because of her unburning-ness? It kind of bugs me that the horn is only mentioned when Euron shows up. There doesn't seem to be a reference to it in what we know before that time.
Second, I have a theory that she can use the horn without dying, if it is even relevant.
Does it bug anyone else that Daario was left to govern the slave cities with a significantly smaller force than the one which was getting beaten by the masters?
Posted on 7/2/16 at 11:08 am to blueboy
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Does it bug anyone else that Daario was left to govern the slave cities with a significantly smaller force than the one which was getting beaten by the masters?
Not really. They're beaten. Certainly the peace treaty will hold for awhile. All Dany wanted for the Bay of Dragons was for time to allow freedom to take hold. Daario doesn't need to beat the Masters now, he just has to maintain, which is possible with a smaller force. Daario just seems ill suited to politics. She did not leave him with a high level political adviser. That bothers me more than the smaller military force.
Posted on 7/2/16 at 11:17 am to Ace Midnight
Unless she killed them all, which she didn't, the masters could rise again. Plus, your point about Daario is right. He just likes pussy and money. I don't think he gives a shite about maintaining a government. Plus, how loyal to her will is he going to remain as time goes by, given that they will likely never see each other again?
Posted on 7/2/16 at 11:36 am to blueboy
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Plus, how loyal to her will is he going to remain as time goes by, given that they will likely never see each other again?
Depends. Are we going to get more of a "book" Daario (whose loyalty I don't doubt for a second) or "show" Daario who seems much more fickle and unsteady?
Of course, "book" Daario's survival depends on this crazy plan by Ser Barristan to use the Dornish survivors of Quentyn's Folly to make a deal to save him and the other hostages.
This post was edited on 7/2/16 at 11:37 am
Posted on 7/2/16 at 11:43 am to blueboy
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Does it bug anyone else that Daario was left to govern the slave cities with a significantly smaller force than the one which was getting beaten by the masters?
The masters have been defeated and they know what Dany will do if they tried to take things back. Daario and his men are sell swords not politicians and a police force so I can see them just giving up after a while but we might never hear from or see Daario again becuase his storyline could be done.
Posted on 7/2/16 at 11:45 am to 1BamaRTR
I don't think we'll see Daario again either with only 13-15 episodes left.
Doesn't Michiel Huisman live in Nola?
Doesn't Michiel Huisman live in Nola?
Posted on 7/2/16 at 11:50 am to ladytiger118
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What I want to see in the last four episodes this season:
1. Battle of the North with a Stark victory and a dead Ramsay
2. Resolution of the conflict with the faith and the High Sparrow deposed
3. A verbal confirmation of R+L=J
4. Walder Frey killed
5. Dany wraps things up in Meereen and decides to head West
What I'm afraid we will see:
1. Battle for the North ending with a Littlefinger victory and more uncertainty regarding the Stark's future in Winterfell
2. Conflict with the faith drags on even more, and both Cersei and the high sparrow survive the season
3. Another tease of R+L=J without actually confirming it.
4. Walter Frey lives at the end season
5. Dany doesn't get enough time to fix things in Meereen and holds off on going west.
This is what I said concerned me a few weeks ago. I could not have whiffed any more if I tried.
Posted on 7/2/16 at 11:51 am to Methuselah
Preston Jacobs isn't that bad. Granted he can come off as snarky.
But to be fair, GRRM has said the books are the books and the show is the show.
The books have ALOT more point of view characters and the general plot is more complex than GoT on HBO.
I think he can be more objective in his reviews. However, he does make some valid points.
What we have to realize is that at best, DD are just giving us a watered down version of GRRM plot. It's still very good and I love the show, but even I realize that.
ETA: for the record, he gives ALOT of book criticism as well. I watch a lot of his videos.
But to be fair, GRRM has said the books are the books and the show is the show.
The books have ALOT more point of view characters and the general plot is more complex than GoT on HBO.
I think he can be more objective in his reviews. However, he does make some valid points.
What we have to realize is that at best, DD are just giving us a watered down version of GRRM plot. It's still very good and I love the show, but even I realize that.
ETA: for the record, he gives ALOT of book criticism as well. I watch a lot of his videos.
Posted on 7/2/16 at 12:11 pm to volod
In that last episode Q&A, he compared it to a play that was very popular with people at the time but hated by critics (which is already a weak argument because critics loved the episode). He basically implied that it was a popular episode because it was just fan service for the dumb masses.
This post was edited on 7/2/16 at 12:12 pm
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