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re: GoT S03E09 - "The Rains of Castamere" **NON BOOK READERS ONLY PLEASE**
Posted on 6/4/13 at 11:26 am to blueboy
Posted on 6/4/13 at 11:26 am to blueboy
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You people are just fricking stupid
But in all seriousness, piecing together blatant context clues will get you called a book reading bastard ITT.
It's just the way it, some things will never change.
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Posted on 6/4/13 at 11:26 am to Carson123987
I came to post and this page alone is littered with readers. Awesome.
BTW, when the guard closed the doors adn the music started playing, I knew some shite was about to go down...and the only reason I knew the song was Rains of Castamere was because the subtitles said "*band starts playing Rains of Castamere*." Had it not said that, I wouldn't have known what the song was, and that's even with me remembering Cersei talking about the song a week or two ago. But even without knowing the song (or even remembering them talking about it), it was ominous music and very telling in its own right.
If they ever made a Hound/Arya spinoff show, I'd watch it intently every fricking week...I loved all of their scenes together (as always). I hope they are paired for a good while (not sure why they wouldn't be too, since I'm not sure where he'd wnt to take her now..).
Also, this may have been my favorite Tywin moment ever, and he wasn't even onscreen for a single second of it. "The Lannisters send their regards.." So fricking boss.
BTW, when the guard closed the doors adn the music started playing, I knew some shite was about to go down...and the only reason I knew the song was Rains of Castamere was because the subtitles said "*band starts playing Rains of Castamere*." Had it not said that, I wouldn't have known what the song was, and that's even with me remembering Cersei talking about the song a week or two ago. But even without knowing the song (or even remembering them talking about it), it was ominous music and very telling in its own right.
If they ever made a Hound/Arya spinoff show, I'd watch it intently every fricking week...I loved all of their scenes together (as always). I hope they are paired for a good while (not sure why they wouldn't be too, since I'm not sure where he'd wnt to take her now..).
Also, this may have been my favorite Tywin moment ever, and he wasn't even onscreen for a single second of it. "The Lannisters send their regards.." So fricking boss.
This post was edited on 6/4/13 at 11:34 am
Posted on 6/4/13 at 11:28 am to CootKilla
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The only question I have is was Rain the house's last name or was it spelled differently?
I think it was spelled Rayne.
Rain is usually an ominous signal in a storytelling sense tho
This post was edited on 6/4/13 at 11:29 am
Posted on 6/4/13 at 11:31 am to Billy Mays
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But in all seriousness, piecing together blatant context clues will get you called a book reading bastard ITT.
While I do agree with the premise of that, let's all acknowledge that it's obviously WAAAAY easier for bookreaders to "piece shite together" watching the show because they already know the material. While it's obviously possible for nonreaders to follow along, it's much more difficult when you only have the show to go on (and not the wealth of knowledge that the books offer). So for readers, nonreaders not remembering some minute-long scene from a year (or two) ago is a laughable offense, when they only remember it because they already knew it happened/was gonna happen because it was in the books. Which of course goes back to that is why we have separate threads for readers and nonreaders to discuss the show. And nonreaders enjoy trying to piece things together (on their own)...that's half the fun of watching it.
Posted on 6/4/13 at 11:32 am to CocomoLSU
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And nonreaders enjoy trying to piece things together (on their own)...that's half the fun of watching it.
Posted on 6/4/13 at 11:36 am to Billy Mays
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I think it was spelled Rayne.
Rain is usually an ominous signal in a storytelling sense tho
meet me in middle ground thread
Posted on 6/4/13 at 11:38 am to CocomoLSU
Agree with that, I just wish the discussion would be more genuine and keep the witch hunts out of it. Wishful thinking, perhaps.
The only way to stop that is if readers stop posting in this thread (or if you'd accidentally acquired book/spoiler knowledge, just keep it to yourself).
The only way to stop that is if readers stop posting in this thread (or if you'd accidentally acquired book/spoiler knowledge, just keep it to yourself).
Posted on 6/4/13 at 11:43 am to CocomoLSU
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it was ominous music and very telling in its own right.
Cat knew shite was about to turn badly when the music started. Her face said it all. She recognized that song and what it meant.
Posted on 6/4/13 at 11:44 am to CocomoLSU
Yeah, I didn't recognize the song when it played, but I immediately knew Starks were fugged. Honestly, I thought something like that was going to happen when they first got there. Especially when Frey asked Robb's girl to step up and show off for him. I thought she was about to get it right then and there. But then again, I had no idea about the red wedding beforehand. I knew something was fishy as soon as they got there, just didn't know when.
ETA: I just still can't believe Robb put himself in that situation. It almost seems too unrealistic. You're going to trust someone you just betrayed? Not to mention the fact that it was announced across the lands? Wish they were would have been a few more wrinkles to all this
ETA: I just still can't believe Robb put himself in that situation. It almost seems too unrealistic. You're going to trust someone you just betrayed? Not to mention the fact that it was announced across the lands? Wish they were would have been a few more wrinkles to all this
This post was edited on 6/4/13 at 11:48 am
Posted on 6/4/13 at 11:53 am to Brettesaurus Rex
I thought they were all going to be poisoned when they ate the bread and dip. Then I thought maybe they are just gonna kill wifey when she stepped forward and he critiqued her. How did he know she was pregnant? She was hiding it pretty good. So then once the wedding happened, I thought maybe this was going to end well. And THEN the song started playing and I was like 
Posted on 6/4/13 at 11:55 am to iluvdatiger
Yeah, there was about 5 seconds of "well, nothing's happened yet, so I guess they'll be fine." As soon as I say that the music starts 
So I guess in that regard the episode was very well done. Kept me guessing
So I guess in that regard the episode was very well done. Kept me guessing
Posted on 6/4/13 at 11:59 am to Brettesaurus Rex
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I knew something was fishy as soon as they got there, just didn't know when.
Yeah, the way Frey was acting was completely going against everything he was saying. Minus him verbally undressing Robb's wife, he was mainly saying shite like "Nah, everything's cool..let's party," but his actions were those of a scorned woman.
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ETA: I just still can't believe Robb put himself in that situation. It almost seems too unrealistic. You're going to trust someone you just betrayed? Not to mention the fact that it was announced across the lands? Wish they were would have been a few more wrinkles to all this
Agreed, and I thought the same thing. The only thing I came up with was the fact that Robb was the offending party coming into the situation, so he had to be the one to sort of make amends as best as he could. So he had to kinda go with the flow, even when Frey was being a dick. Kinda like beggars can't be choosers...Robb was the one who not only offended Frey previously, but also needed Frey's men to help with his war. So he just kinda had to roll with everything, and Frey played it well enough to get the right people where he wanted them to be and just slaughter everyone.
Also, I'm wondering the fate of old boy Tully. I like to think he was brought off and got to bed his hot wifey, but I wonder if they just cut his throat as soon as they took him out of the hall. If I had to make an assumption, I'd assume he was killed...wonder if they're gonna address that next week or not.
Posted on 6/4/13 at 12:16 pm to CocomoLSU
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Also, I'm wondering the fate of old boy Tully. I like to think he was brought off and got to bed his hot wifey, but I wonder if they just cut his throat as soon as they took him out of the hall. If I had to make an assumption, I'd assume he was killed...wonder if they're gonna address that next week or not.
But then Frey is stuck with another daughter/granddaughter if he kills Edmure. Plus, Edmure didn't do anything wrong. He held up his side of the bargain, even after meeting all of the Frey girls.
Posted on 6/4/13 at 12:20 pm to CocomoLSU
The Starks are mouth-breathers - they have zero awareness. All they do is get pwned by smart people.
Posted on 6/4/13 at 12:24 pm to CocomoLSU
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TW, when the guard closed the doors adn the music started playing, I knew some shite was about to go down...and the only reason I knew the song was Rains of Castamere was because the subtitles said "*band starts playing Rains of Castamere*." Had it not said that, I wouldn't have known what the song was, and that's even with me remembering Cersei talking about the song a week or two ago
same here
I had to read about it in this thread so someone else could connect the dots. Who the frick pays that close attention to "background music?" much less the words?
last time I remember a song being any more than just a "song" was that stupid All Along the Watchtower git in BSG
Posted on 6/4/13 at 12:39 pm to CocomoLSU
Don't forget about Blackfish. He left to take a wizz. Is he dead too or did he know something was about to go down?
Posted on 6/4/13 at 12:39 pm to CocomoLSU
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Agreed, and I thought the same thing. The only thing I came up with was the fact that Robb was the offending party coming into the situation, so he had to be the one to sort of make amends as best as he could. So he had to kinda go with the flow, even when Frey was being a dick. Kinda like beggars can't be choosers...Robb was the one who not only offended Frey previously, but also needed Frey's men to help with his war. So he just kinda had to roll with everything, and Frey played it well enough to get the right people where he wanted them to be and just slaughter everyone.
And Robb was also like his father I guess in the sense where he thought if a deal was in place there was no way anyone would go back on it (the confession/beheading). He put himself in a bind when he killed Castark. He needed more soldiers and left himself wide open
Posted on 6/4/13 at 12:40 pm to Billy Mays
stupid Robb just sat there on the ground beside wifey. At least Cat made a last ditch effort.
Posted on 6/4/13 at 12:42 pm to iluvdatiger
edmure is worth a lot more to the freys alive than he is dead
Posted on 6/4/13 at 12:46 pm to etm512
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And Robb was also like his father I guess in the sense where he thought if a deal was in place there was no way anyone would go back on it
well once the freys offered them protection, there is a legitimate reason to feel safe
Robb's first error was breaking a vow for completely selfish reasons. i won't say he deserved to die, but what he did was completely fricked up. he could have also avoided the entire thing by just fricking the other chick on the reg. he didn't have to MARRY her.
Robb then got too caught up in the war. it led to him making bad decsions that led not only to his death but basically to the temporary destruction of the north. think about it...winterfell is fricking burned down. his brothers were caputures (and he believes them to be dead). the north is being pillaged by iron islanders. he killed one of his more loyal lords.
Robb fricked up a lot and it wasn't shocking that he died, imho
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