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re: GoT "Middle Ground" Thread - Sn 4 - Offseason Discussion ***Spoilers Possible***

Posted on 6/18/14 at 5:36 pm to
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 5:36 pm to
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And I hate to delve back into it, but as I continue to monitor the Hodors (my former comrades) - Kashonly is asking if Sansa is on Arya's list


this is the best thread of all. It's like Kumbaya in here.

This is what a thread about a show should be like. The Hodor thread is run by facists and idiots who don't pay attention.


Posted by PsychTiger
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 5:36 pm to
She's Queen Regent and has power until Tommen comes of age, at least I think.
Posted by UMRealist
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 5:41 pm to
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Any other hodors that are in the process of reading like this idea?



eta: Nvm
This post was edited on 6/18/14 at 5:43 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 6:01 pm to
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But.. Westeros with the exception of Dorne is paternal lineage. So a male would be over Cersei.


Yes, but Cersei is the only left on Tywin's line who isn't king, a Kingsguard, or wanted for murder. Males come first, then females, and then uncles and their children.
This post was edited on 6/18/14 at 6:02 pm
Posted by PsychTiger
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 6:14 pm to
Tywin's line doesn't mean shite with regards to rule. Sure we know Tommen is the product of Lannister incest, but officially it's the Baratheon line that now inherits the throne.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 6:30 pm to
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but officially it's the Baratheon line that now inherits the throne.


And none of that changes the fact that Cersei is in charge - until Tommen comes of age - she will decide who the hand is, she will run the small council - heck - she will decide who gets Casterly Rock - unless Jaime has a change of heart.
Posted by iluvdatiger
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 6:43 pm to
why not just pardon him and command him to go to Casterly Rock?
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 6:46 pm to
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why not just pardon him and command him to go to Casterly Rock?



Sure - but Cersei now has final say so of everything that happens in King's Landing.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 6:52 pm to
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Sure - but Cersei now has final say so of everything that happens in King's Landing.


Yeah, Jaime joined the Kingsguard in the first place solely so he could be next to Cersei. Cersei isn't sending him anywhere he doesn't absolutely have to be. There are plenty of Lannister cousins who can look after Casterly Rock.
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 6:54 pm to
How does someone go 4 seasons without knowing Aryas name?


I guess is shouldn't be surprised, I still have to explain to one of my roommates who Dany is from time to time.
Posted by Cap Crunch
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 7:01 pm to
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And none of that changes the fact that Cersei is in charge - until Tommen comes of age - she will decide who the hand is, she will run the small council - heck - she will decide who gets Casterly Rock - unless Jaime has a change of heart.

Whole kingdom is about to go to shite


ETA: seems like an opportune time for Stannis or Dany to make a play for the throne
This post was edited on 6/18/14 at 7:06 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 7:08 pm to
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Whole kingdom is about to go to shite


It's what Littlefinger is counting on.
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 7:09 pm to
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Whole kingdom is about to go to shite


For sure. The only lannisters that knew what the hell they were doing were Tywinn and Tyrion, and they're both gone

With Cercei and a 12 year old running things I'd be very surprised if the lannisters hold on the crown lasted much longer. Especially if Cercei fricks up their relationship with the tyrells and the bank comes knocking
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 7:10 pm to
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ETA: seems like an opportune time for Stannis or Dany to make a play for the throne This post was edited on 6/18 at 7:06 pm


Stannis doesn't really care about KL right now and Dany is too caught up with worrying about her slaves shite to even know who Tywinn is
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 7:12 pm to
The Middle Ground thread is so much more refreshing than the Hodor thread when people know what's actually going on.
Posted by UMRealist
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 7:15 pm to
amen
Posted by TigerintheNO
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 7:16 pm to
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The only lannisters that knew what the hell they were doing were Tywinn and Tyrion, and they're both gone


not true
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 7:17 pm to
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The Middle Ground thread is so much more refreshing than the Hodor thread when people know what's actually going on.


And it's refreshing to be able talk about what's going on without having to explain what happened 2 weeks ago to comotose Khal dragos while simultaneously being accused of being a reader every two seconds
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 7:18 pm to
Well, Jaime does but has no desire for power or authority. And then there's Kevan, but I see no reason why even the Middle Grounders would remember him.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 7:18 pm to
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not true


Care to elaborate?
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