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re: GoT "Middle Ground" Thread - Between Seasons Discussion ***Spoilers Possible***
Posted on 5/24/13 at 7:39 pm to blueboy
Posted on 5/24/13 at 7:39 pm to blueboy
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Why is Samwell Tarly a soldier? If he's so well-educated and is such a coward, why isn't he an engineer or cook or something?
Yeah, I thought he was supposed to be a steward or something when they got their original assignments, but he somehow ended up out on patrol.
quote:
how do we know that he didn't get Margery to do it and watch?
I considered that possibility, but Joffrey seemed pretty comfortably alone as he sat there with the crossbow in his hands.
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Posted on 5/24/13 at 7:43 pm to PowerTool
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Yeah, I thought he was supposed to be a steward or something when they got their original assignments, but he somehow ended up out on patrol.
Sam isn't a soldier he was brought out there to take care of the ravens and send messages back to castle black. The problem is he lost all the ravens if I remember correctly after the whitewalkers killed a bunch of the nightswatch earlier in the season.
Posted on 5/24/13 at 8:08 pm to Carson123987
quote:You are a piece of work, my friend.
Carson123987
Normally, I'd be mad that the guy who spoilt the season is the same guy who RA'd and got me banned, then accused me of being Faux Lester - if I didn't secretly admire the delicious, Game of Thrones-ness of it. Maybe that's why BV is banned. Maybe they found out it was him, somehow. Maybe it was you.
Anyway, the spoiler is turning out not to be that bad. I know what "A" does, and I'm 100% positive I know the reason why A will do it, but I have no idea how it will logically play out. I have a million theories as to what will happen in the next two episodes (especially one with a name like "The Rains of Castamere"), but I think I'm going to start keeping most of those to myself.
Also, there was an alter who came straight to the M/TV board and started a thread. It was deleted before I could open it, though. All I could see was the part I could read while hovering my cursor over it. Something about how he was "LSUcifer." What the hell was that all about?
Oh man. That banishment PM was driving me nuts, like water torture. "Is it gonna be there this time? Damn!" What ever happened to the "click here to remove this message" feature.
Posted on 5/24/13 at 8:13 pm to KingwoodLsuFan
Carson is right. His father is an a-hole. I thought I remembered that. I only saw season one once and lent it to someone who hasn't yet returned it.
Posted on 5/24/13 at 8:15 pm to blueboy
The show hasn't explained it as well as book 1 did. Last episode Sam told Gilly she'd definitely shouldn't name her kid after his father or Craster for that matter .
Randyl Tarly is an arse basically. I am not sure if me revealing why he is an arse would be spoiler territory, but the first book lays it out as to why Sam is in the Night's Watch. I can't remember if he specified why in the past 3 seasons.
. Randyl Tarly is an arse basically. I am not sure if me revealing why he is an arse would be spoiler territory, but the first book lays it out as to why Sam is in the Night's Watch. I can't remember if he specified why in the past 3 seasons.
Posted on 5/24/13 at 8:17 pm to blueboy
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Carson is right. His father is an a-hole. I thought I remembered that. I only saw season one once and lent it to someone who hasn't yet returned it.
Sam's dad hated Sam because he was pretty much a pansy. Sam's choices were to either meet an unfortunate end in a "hunting accident" or to run off to the nightwatch because his dad didn't want to see him anymore. Sam told Jon this in season one when they were up next to the fire on lookout duty.
This post was edited on 5/24/13 at 8:18 pm
Posted on 5/24/13 at 8:22 pm to ladytiger118
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Randyl Tarly is an arse basically. I am not sure if me revealing why he is an arse would be spoiler territory, but the first book lays it out as to why Sam is in the Night's Watch.
The fact that he's happier running from White Walkers and snuggling some Arkansas incest victim than he was at home with his own dad explains it reasonably well.
Posted on 5/24/13 at 8:31 pm to KingwoodLsuFan
Thanks.
Any other Hodors want to guess why it will be "The Rains of Castamere." Intuitively, I think it will either be a Lannister checkmate, a la the ending of The Godfather, but it could also be an ironic title. In other words, they get their asses kicked this time. Not sure how the latter would play out, or the former, really? The Frey wedding should be interesting. I wonder how "ugly" they can make the bride without pissing off the feminists.
Will Cersei try to kill Loras? Will Joffrey rape Sansa? Will Tyrion ever frick her? What will the Cersei/Loras wedding night be like? What about Marge and Joffrey? Has he ever gotten laid?
Also, was I the only one who caught Ygritte calling John Snow a "maid" before he'd gotten some? That was hilarious.
Any other Hodors want to guess why it will be "The Rains of Castamere." Intuitively, I think it will either be a Lannister checkmate, a la the ending of The Godfather, but it could also be an ironic title. In other words, they get their asses kicked this time. Not sure how the latter would play out, or the former, really? The Frey wedding should be interesting. I wonder how "ugly" they can make the bride without pissing off the feminists.
Will Cersei try to kill Loras? Will Joffrey rape Sansa? Will Tyrion ever frick her? What will the Cersei/Loras wedding night be like? What about Marge and Joffrey? Has he ever gotten laid?
Also, was I the only one who caught Ygritte calling John Snow a "maid" before he'd gotten some? That was hilarious.
Posted on 5/24/13 at 8:46 pm to blueboy
I'm in the camp that believes the "Lannister Honeypot" theory; Tywin hasn't been able to beat Robb on the field so he's laying a trap. Catelyn and Kastark (sp?) warned Robb repeatedly that he lost the war when he married Talisa. I keep thinking of Theon's torturer saying "If you think this has a happy ending, you haven't been paying attention."
I'll be pleasantly surprised if anything big happens soon, however.
I'll be pleasantly surprised if anything big happens soon, however.
Posted on 5/24/13 at 8:49 pm to PowerTool
I'm very curious if the Lannister Honeypot theory is going to play out or if it's just a red herring.
Also, I just found this video of Charles Dance reading a 50 Shades of Grey passage
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Charles Dance (Tywin Lannister) reads 50 Shades of Grey
Also, I just found this video of Charles Dance reading a 50 Shades of Grey passage
: Charles Dance (Tywin Lannister) reads 50 Shades of Grey
Posted on 5/24/13 at 8:51 pm to ladytiger118
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Randyl Tarly is an badass basically.
FIFY
I can't believe Sam is his son, guy is basically worthless.
Posted on 5/24/13 at 8:55 pm to BlackleafBaller
He did just become the first person to kill a White Walker. Yeah, it was in a pussy manner, but he still did it.
Posted on 5/24/13 at 9:05 pm to PowerTool
quote:Me too. The secret note cinched it.
I'm in the camp that believes the "Lannister Honeypot" theory;
But if Robb dies, who would be the leader of the Starks? His uncle? Someone said that in the book, Robb thinks his brothers are dead. Tywin seems to think so too, so does the Stark clan also believe this?
I don't think shadow monsters are going to kill the 3 people named by Stannis. I think Baylon's death might have something to do with Theon. Maybe not. Anyway, I don't think Theon's troubles are over. I've expected him to be flayed, in accordance with the Bolton crest.
Robb and Joffrey are anyone's guess, but I really don't think they'd kill Joffrey off at this point.
As for the characters we don't see much of, I have a theory about that, but I don't want to get in trouble with the Sams again.
Posted on 5/24/13 at 9:09 pm to blueboy
Robb's uncle is a member of the Night's Watch and as such can not be lord of Winterfell. Plus (show info) no one knows where he is or if he's even alive.
Eta: Are book readers the Sams or are you referring to the Hodors?
Eta: Are book readers the Sams or are you referring to the Hodors?
This post was edited on 5/24/13 at 9:11 pm
Posted on 5/24/13 at 9:11 pm to PsychTiger
No, I mean the one that's about to get married.
Posted on 5/24/13 at 9:15 pm to blueboy
That uncle is a Tully and they only rule the riverlands, not the north.
But if it came down to a Tully, I'd go with the Blackfish.
But if it came down to a Tully, I'd go with the Blackfish.
Posted on 5/24/13 at 9:28 pm to blueboy
If something were to happen to Robb, Bran would be next in line to inherit Winterfell, then Rickon.
Benjen would not inherit period because he took the black. Benjen has also been MIA since the middle of season 1.
Since most of Westeros believe that Theon burned/killed Bran and Rickon, Sansa is the key to the North.
Jon Snow cannot inherit because he is a bastard and took the black. The only way he could be legitimized is by a royal decree from the king.
Benjen would not inherit period because he took the black. Benjen has also been MIA since the middle of season 1.
Since most of Westeros believe that Theon burned/killed Bran and Rickon, Sansa is the key to the North.
Jon Snow cannot inherit because he is a bastard and took the black. The only way he could be legitimized is by a royal decree from the king.
This post was edited on 5/24/13 at 9:30 pm
Posted on 5/24/13 at 9:33 pm to ladytiger118
Ranyll Tarly did what was right. No way I let that pussy take over my house, especially a great house like Tarly.
Posted on 5/24/13 at 9:36 pm to NIH
Couldn't it be argued that Randyl and his wife raised Sam to be the big wuss that he is?
Posted on 5/24/13 at 9:38 pm to ladytiger118
No, Sam had always been "soft" according to what he told Jon in GOT. Randyll literally tried everything possible to toughen him up and it didn't work. Can you imagine the disaster Sam would be if Randyll had died in a battle during the war and was forced to take command of his house during the war?
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