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re: GoT "Middle Ground" Thread - Between Seasons Discussion ***Spoilers Possible***

Posted on 5/20/13 at 11:05 pm to
Posted by Sho Nuff
Oahu
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 5/20/13 at 11:05 pm to
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It is not clear on the show. But I do believe most nonreaders know which house currently has Theon. If that is incorrect let me know and I will ask that readers don't discuss that in here.

It's a bit too late for that

As a non-reader, I had no clue, but people were guessing in the non-reader thread and it made sense to me. BUT, nobody in the non-reader thread knew for sure. Obviously, I do now

But other than that, I am enjoying reading this entire thread for the first time. The timeline was awesome by Hugo and I am going to watch all those links posted that shows the characters talking about the past. Please just let us know if you are going to post something that hasn't been shown yet. (even if it's so blatantly obvious haha)
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
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Posted on 5/20/13 at 11:07 pm to
Posted by glassman
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Posted on 5/20/13 at 11:09 pm to
That is so great.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 5/20/13 at 11:09 pm to
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but not more than what her sister as dealt with



She's not her sister though. Sansa isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer. Before coming to King's Landing, she thought that life was truly like the songs she grew up with and that everyone had a happy ending.

Arya from the start though saw the truth: the world is a cold unforgiving place, and she was able to block it out. She's smart and can instantly read any situation she's in. Arya is able to cope with a cold, heartless world and actually thrives in it really. Sansa, not so much. When her fairy tale view of reality ends, it hits her like a ton of bricks. Arya merely waits for revenge for the people who wronged her.
This post was edited on 5/20/13 at 11:10 pm
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/20/13 at 11:09 pm to
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In all fairness, Sansa lives under the constant fear that at any moment that sadistic frick Joffrey could torture her just for shits and giggles


She had food, Arya didn't & lost everyone close to her.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 5/20/13 at 11:10 pm to
People have been good about respecting spoilers in here.
Posted by PowerTool
The dark side of the road
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 5/20/13 at 11:14 pm to
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She's not her sister though. Sansa isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer.


No she isn't. Entitled and stupid. Explains why she's rude to people who help her and doesn't know when to thank people.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 5/20/13 at 11:16 pm to
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No she isn't. Entitled and stupid. Explains why she's rude to people who help her and doesn't know when to thank people.



Well, she's getting gloriously fricked in this deal. She was to marry the most handsome knight in the realm and belong to the second richest family, and now she's staying in King's Landing, will still have Joffrey tormenting her, and she's to marry the Imp. Kinda don't blame her for being a little bitchy.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
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Posted on 5/20/13 at 11:20 pm to
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Well, she's getting gloriously fricked in this deal. She was to marry the most handsome knight in the realm and belong to the second richest family, and now she's staying in King's Landing


She had a choice, she turned down the place her sister is in!
She said could have left with the Hound, Arya didn't get that choice.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
109713 posts
Posted on 5/20/13 at 11:24 pm to
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She had a choice, she turned down the place her sister is in!
She said could have left with the Hound, Arya didn't get that choice.



Well, still, the guy is the Hound. He probably has the second most brutal reputation of any soldier in the Seven Kingdoms, only next to his own brother. Sure he could protect you, but the question is if he could protect you from himself.
Posted by PowerTool
The dark side of the road
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 5/20/13 at 11:28 pm to
Littlefinger also gave her a choice and she completely changed her mind the first time a gay man smiled at her because "he's so handsome!"

Back to her being a brat, I was rewatching some old episodes recently and it showed up early. She was rude to the old lady (nanny or whatever) and her maids. Never really expressed gratitude to The Hound or Tyrion when they got her out of terrifying situations. Wouldn't let Tyrion talk to her alone without Shae in the room.

Yeah, just stupid and entitled.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41267 posts
Posted on 5/20/13 at 11:32 pm to
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Well, still, the guy is the Hound. He probably has the second most brutal reputation of any soldier in the Seven Kingdoms, only next to his own brother. Sure he could protect you, but the question is if he could protect you from himself.


You are dead on, & Sansa probably made the right decision not to go with him. Arya will make the most of her plight, but it doesn't mean her path is easier.
Posted by TaxmanMSU
a glasscase of emotion
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/20/13 at 11:36 pm to
Leaving with the Hound was never a choice for her. She was absolutely terrified of him, enough that she would rather risk getting raped and killed by the invaders rather than flee with that burned up drunkard.
Posted by BlackleafBaller
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/20/13 at 11:37 pm to
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Never really expressed gratitude to The Hound or Tyrion when they got her out of terrifying situations. Wouldn't let Tyrion talk to her alone without Shae in the room.

She hates the Lannisters because they killed Ned and are fighting against her family. The Hound was a Lannister soldier and Tyrion is a Lannister. She basicallly doesn't trust anyone in Kings Landing (except Littlefinger and the Tyrells).
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41267 posts
Posted on 5/20/13 at 11:39 pm to
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Never really expressed gratitude to The Hound or Tyrion when they got her out of terrifying situations.


a deleted scene

Season 2 -Hound/Sana/Imp
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
109713 posts
Posted on 5/20/13 at 11:42 pm to
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Littlefinger also gave her a choice and she completely changed her mind the first time a gay man smiled at her because "he's so handsome!"



Littlefinger is also extremely open about having the hots for Sansa's mom. I think Sansa is likely (and rightfully) concerned that he'll try and rape her. She thought she had a guarantee with Loras, but Littlefinger fricked that up.

Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
99557 posts
Posted on 5/20/13 at 11:51 pm to
Yeah, no danger of Loras raping her.
Posted by Sho Nuff
Oahu
Member since Feb 2009
11936 posts
Posted on 5/21/13 at 1:02 am to
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The guy we saw last night was an Other.

It looked just like the White Walker we saw at the end of season 2 though, didn't it? How do we know it's an Other? Is there a major difference?
Posted by BlackleafBaller
Member since Oct 2012
1863 posts
Posted on 5/21/13 at 1:21 am to
White Walker (show) = Other (book)

a Wight is a human thats been killed by a WW/Other and came back to life.
Posted by Sho Nuff
Oahu
Member since Feb 2009
11936 posts
Posted on 5/21/13 at 1:52 am to
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White Walker (show) = Other (book)

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