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re: GoT "Middle Ground" Thread - Between Seasons Discussion ***Spoilers Possible***

Posted on 4/19/13 at 11:09 am to
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
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Posted on 4/19/13 at 11:09 am to
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When he arrived Aerys roasted him in his armor and hung Brandon at the same time.

This is true, but a few other minor details I'd like to add.

Rickard asked for a trial by combat and Aerys chose his champion to be fire instead of an actual person. Brandon watched from a contraption that would constrict around his neck if he tried to squirm or wrestle free.

In an attempt to save his father's life he hung himself.
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 4/19/13 at 11:14 am to
Yea I didn't feel like typing all of that out
Posted by Ash Williams
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Posted on 4/19/13 at 11:14 am to
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Rickard asked for a trial by combat and Aerys chose his champion to be fire instead of an actual person. Brandon watched from a contraption that would constrict around his neck if he tried to squirm or wrestle free.

In an attempt to save his father's life he hung himself.



I'd argue that Aerys was slightly mad
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
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Posted on 4/19/13 at 11:17 am to
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I'd argue that Aerys was slightly mad

Posted by Ash Williams
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Posted on 4/19/13 at 11:20 am to
seriously

this guy was fricked in the head

they shouldve nicknamed him "Aerys the Insane Monarch"

or something of the like
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 4/19/13 at 11:20 am to
Ya don't say?
Posted by Ash Williams
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Posted on 4/19/13 at 11:23 am to
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Ya don't say?



i dono

just an idea

ill see what cocomo thinks
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
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Posted on 4/19/13 at 11:25 am to
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seriously

this guy was fricked in the head

they shouldve nicknamed him "Aerys the Insane Monarch"

or something of the like

Well, there's a lot that contributed to his insanity.

Tywin Lannister as hand of the King probably didn't help that much with his paranoia.

Aery's was also kidnapped for six months, Barriston Selmy finally went in and saved his arse.

After that, he only left the castle one time over the next five years
Posted by Ash Williams
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Posted on 4/19/13 at 11:27 am to
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Aery's was also kidnapped for six months, Barriston Selmy finally went in and saved his arse.



forgot about that

i need to hurry up with my reread

im slowly forgetting game of thrones

i feel like i have Westeros Alzheimer's
Posted by PsychTiger
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Posted on 4/19/13 at 11:45 am to
Good discussion guys. Great job of keeping it limited to current or past events from the books/show.

eta:
quote:

i feel like i have Westeros Alzheimer's


I need to corner the market on testing for this. I already do testing for Alzheimer's, shouldn't be that hard to adjust the tests to a Westerosi format.
This post was edited on 4/19/13 at 11:48 am
Posted by Ash Williams
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Posted on 4/19/13 at 11:47 am to
I just cant believe they all die

i hadnt read the book, so when that big wave comes and takes down the whole ship and you watch clooney and wahlberg going down

it was heart breaking man
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Posted on 4/19/13 at 11:48 am to


A Perfect Storm?
This post was edited on 4/19/13 at 12:02 pm
Posted by TigerintheNO
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Posted on 4/19/13 at 11:50 am to
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And he fled to Essos in the book fearing punishment from the throne.


From the throne or from Ned Stark?
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
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Posted on 4/19/13 at 11:55 am to
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From the throne or from Ned Stark?

Can't remember, could have been both.

Ned had some jurisdiction over the North which would have included bear island, he would have either dispensed justice himself or requested King Robert to do the deed.

Not sure on the protocol but it makes little difference.
This post was edited on 4/19/13 at 11:56 am
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 4/19/13 at 11:55 am to
Well Ned was the warden in the north so both.
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 4/19/13 at 11:56 am to
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Ned had jurisdiction over the North which would have included bear island, he would have either dispensed justice himself or requested King Robert to do the deed.


Ned would've done it. Same way he killed the ranger in the opening chapter/scene
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
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Posted on 4/19/13 at 11:58 am to
Yeah probably
Posted by TigerintheNO
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Posted on 4/19/13 at 12:12 pm to
Not trying to nitpick the point, but it brings me up an interesting point. I took it as Robert not giving a shite, and Ned doing what he was supposed to do, his honor. Robert then seized the opportunity to his advantage. He got Jorah worked as his informant/spy.

Now Barristan, as head of the King's guard, knew that Jorah was spying on Daenerys for the throne.(which was also revealed in season 1 of the show) In the book Jorah didn't recognize Barristan, so his identity wasn't known until the end. Do you think the show is just skipping over that issue?

Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
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Posted on 4/19/13 at 12:17 pm to
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Robert then seized the opportunity to his advantage. He got Jorah worked as his informant/spy.

I thought this was more Varys and not so much Robert

quote:

Now Barristan, as head of the King's guard, knew that Jorah was spying on Daenerys for the throne.(which was also revealed in season 1 of the show) In the book Jorah didn't recognize Barristan, so his identity wasn't known until the end. Do you think the show is just skipping over that issue?

I think it will emerge later down the line but who knows.

In the show, the chick with the mask in Qarth asked Jorah if he would betray Dany again to which he replied, "Never"

The betrayal was him spying on Dany to Varys and his last known report in the book was from Qarth.
This post was edited on 4/19/13 at 12:18 pm
Posted by Carson123987
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Posted on 4/19/13 at 12:19 pm to
Cotton what's your email
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