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re: GoT: House of the Dragon Season 3 Official Thread [BOOK SPOILERS]

Posted on 6/22/26 at 12:43 pm to
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
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Posted on 6/22/26 at 12:43 pm to
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Who was that guy with the antlers on his head??? The part where the dragon seeds were just hanging out bitchn at each other


A Green Man. Almost nothing is known about them.

Corlys is still alive, right? I just finished rewatching it and it looks like he was just thrown in the water when the ships hit the shore, not because of any injury.


He has at least one scene from the final trailer that was not in last night's episode, so presumably so.

SPOILER

Can't imagine that he'd be among the major story arc changes that they would make given the rest of his path entails.
Posted by LuckySo-n-So
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Posted on 6/22/26 at 12:45 pm to
I would also like to point out the war drums during the opening credits. It harkened back to the GoT episode “Blackwater.” It’s the little things that can really put this show over the top sometimes. (Sometimes it’s the big things too )
This post was edited on 6/22/26 at 4:08 pm
Posted by Nole Man
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Posted on 6/22/26 at 1:12 pm to
“Jacaerys' Death: Jacaerys manages to leap from his saddle and briefly clings to a piece of floating wreckage. However, crossbowmen on a nearby Myrish ship target the prince, striking him multiple times. One bolt strikes him in the neck, and he falls into the sea, never to be seen again”.
Posted by miab777
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Posted on 6/22/26 at 1:16 pm to
Sheepstealer caused Vermax's death
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 6/22/26 at 1:18 pm to
First shot hooked the saddle
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 6/22/26 at 1:22 pm to
Nope, once
Posted by TigerFanatic99
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Posted on 6/22/26 at 1:30 pm to
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Nope, once


I mean, technically it was twice. The first shot snagged Vermax's saddle, but was working as intended and would have eventually drowned him. Moondancer clipped the rope with her wing and saved him.

The second one was a gutshot though and a real problem. At the end you could see it ripping the stomach. I'm not sure Vermax survives that even if Moondancer could have freed him.
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 6/22/26 at 1:36 pm to
He gets hit once. The first shot didn’t hit Vermax, I hooked his rig. The second attempt would’ve killed him no matter what else happened. It shouldn’t have been able to rip his stomach open is the point, in the books he gets hooked to a sinking ship and that weight rips him open. Thats how it should’ve been done. If all it takes is one shot from a handheld scorpion you’ve diminished the dragons too much.
This post was edited on 6/22/26 at 1:41 pm
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 6/22/26 at 1:50 pm to
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It shouldn’t have been able to rip his stomach open is the point, in the books he gets hooked to a sinking ship and that weight rips him open.


It was clearly heavily weighted with a large anchor. Would have a similar effect.

You’re just arguing semantics at this point.
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 6/22/26 at 1:52 pm to
No, you’re not paying attention. The anchor didn’t kill the dragon, the small scorpion ripped him open. If that can happen the entire strategy of all warfare changes.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
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Posted on 6/22/26 at 2:00 pm to
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No, you’re not paying attention. The anchor didn’t kill the dragon, the small scorpion ripped him open. If that can happen the entire strategy of all warfare changes.


Would that small scorpion have ripped him open if it weren't attached to the heavy anchor?

It would have just stuck him in like a bolt that could have been removed later.
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
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Posted on 6/22/26 at 2:01 pm to
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The anchor didn’t kill the dragon

Correct. Travel ball Jace did.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 6/22/26 at 2:02 pm to
The arrow penetrated the more vulnerable space in his belly just under the left wing. It pulls him further open as he fights against the weight at the other end of the arrow (I literally just rewound and watched it, it strikes him at the 1:08:18 mark of the show on HBO Max).

Maybe you should pay better attention?

This post was edited on 6/22/26 at 2:04 pm
Posted by MorbidTheClown
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Posted on 6/22/26 at 2:04 pm to
Damn kids! They always think they know better.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 6/22/26 at 2:06 pm to
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He gets hit once. The first shot didn’t hit Vermax, I hooked his rig. The second attempt would’ve killed him no matter what else happened. It shouldn’t have been able to rip his stomach open is the point, in the books he gets hooked to a sinking ship and that weight rips him open. Thats how it should’ve been done. If all it takes is one shot from a handheld scorpion you’ve diminished the dragons too much.


I feel like you're making a mountain out of a molehill here. It's such a minor thing of whether or not he was killed by the ships weight or the anchors weight. Nobody thinks that diminishes the dragons at all. They are badass but not impervious to everything. That one death does not change how a single viewer views any of the dragons throughout HOTD/GOT.
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 6/22/26 at 2:08 pm to
In the books these are large, deck mounted scorpions like the ones we see kill Viserion in GOT. Something like that piecing Vermax’s hide makes sense but not a small hand held, which again doesn’t exist in this world. If these things do exist you can mount a few thousand at the head of a large army and the dragons can’t touch you unless they’re the super sized Dragons and they’d even be facing mortal danger. It changes warfare in this world entirely which is a large part of the story in this show. Example Aemon not being able to leave Kings Landing, Dragons flying cover for armies etc..
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 6/22/26 at 2:09 pm to
Irrelevant
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 6/22/26 at 2:10 pm to
But that isn’t my argument, my argument is the weapons used. Can’t have handheld scorpions able to take down dragons. It changes everything and it’s a mistake. Hopefully a one off but still dumb.
This post was edited on 6/22/26 at 2:13 pm
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 6/22/26 at 2:10 pm to
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I feel like you're making a mountain out of a molehill here. It's such a minor thing of whether or not he was killed by the ships weight or the anchors weight. Nobody thinks that diminishes the dragons at all. They are badass but not impervious to everything. That one death does not change how a single viewer views any of the dragons throughout HOTD/GOT.


You’re absolutely correct. There’s two things here everybody knows (and is reinforced in this episode):

1. Dragons aren’t immune to death and they can be killed (by other dragons and with some effort, humans).

2. There is a semblance of control but we’ve seen in multiple instances the dragons are going to do whatever the frick they want to do at end. Training or not. That alone makes them terrifying.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 6/22/26 at 2:12 pm to
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Something like that piecing Vermax’s hide makes sense but not a small hand held, which again doesn’t exist in this world.


Except they do, as the show showed last night.

You’re gleaning a lot of absolutes from a text that’s being adapted that read more like an encyclopedia versus an actual, faithful telling of the stories line for line. Just because you’re screaming it’s so, doesn’t make it so.
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