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re: GOE (Game of Estrogen)
Posted on 6/21/16 at 12:32 am to Roger Klarvin
Posted on 6/21/16 at 12:32 am to Roger Klarvin
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This site is densely populated by the far religious right and their massive, perpetual victim complex. Everything is a PC liberal conspiracy by atheists, Jews and Muslims to destroy the American family and tear down middle to upper class white Christian males.
They see persecution and liberal conspiracy in EVERYTHING. It bleeds over onto every board.
hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
another "above the fray" dipshit
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Posted on 6/21/16 at 12:38 am to gthog61
By definition those below the fray don't realize it. Nobody willingly believes nonsense, there are those who are right and those who are ignorant.
In other words, your response is precisely what one would expect from you. Anything else would actually disprove my thesis.
In other words, your response is precisely what one would expect from you. Anything else would actually disprove my thesis.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 2:39 am to PeteRose
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Next episode will reveal a Night Queen. She can do all the things that the Night King can except that she's smart, strong, and independent.
They would do something like this but only men in the show are truly evil and villains....you see that would go against their agenda of making all the women noble and powerful. Even the mean ones like Cersei are somewhat painted as victims to an extent even though she's sadistic, stupi, and borderline evil.
Also don't most fantasy readers hate PC bullshite like this? Isn't that what the whole gamer gate and other similar "gates" we're about?
Posted on 6/21/16 at 2:54 am to Bard
It isn't really a sinister plot or intentional theme that GRR set out to design IMO. Based on the accounts of his personal life he is a feminist and did lose out in some personal relationships - was rejected by a RL woman with red hair (an uncommon hair color seen over and over again in significant female characters). He's also a bit of a product of his culture - with some sense of chivalry (which tempers his abuse of major female characters somewhat compared to his men) and a sense of the cultural power of women. So you end up with a different sort of emphasis than many other fantasy writers like Tolkien or Jordan.
JMO, take it for what it is worth.
JMO, take it for what it is worth.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 4:16 am to Bard
The only one that really bothers me is Yara. Something about her character annoys me.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 4:17 am to Roger Klarvin
You're an SJW lib pussy who's destroying America. Or something.
The racism, bigotry and sexism here is to palpable too deny.
The racism, bigotry and sexism here is to palpable too deny.
This post was edited on 6/21/16 at 4:27 am
Posted on 6/21/16 at 5:37 am to Bard
Just messing with you. I pointed this out to my son as well while we watched. I'm fine with it. That shite won't go down well with the Hound though.
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Posted on 6/21/16 at 5:59 am to Bard
This thread is turning into a somewhat predictable clusterfrick. The worst thing is posters with an absence of commentary outside of ad hominem insults.
It shouldn't be that hard to express an informed opinion of your own instead of just ranting about your favorite dislikes. Even the ranting is fine so long as it includes actual content.
It shouldn't be that hard to express an informed opinion of your own instead of just ranting about your favorite dislikes. Even the ranting is fine so long as it includes actual content.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 7:08 am to Roger Klarvin
While the show does seem to be tacking hard into strong female characters, the show has also shown a number of "bad" female characters. Cersei is just as stupid, vengeful, and short sighted as any of the men on the show. Danny for all her messianic trappings seems way too in love with crucifying and burning her enemies. Lysa and Catlyn are two of biggest douche wads we've ever seen. The Sand Snakes (at least in the books) are stupid sighted reactionaries.
The depletion of male leaders in Westeros is pretty well rooted in the storyline. Roberts rebellion lead to the deaths of Rhaegar, Rickard Stark, Brandon Stark, most of the Balon Greyjoy's sons, and more. We've seen those noble houses further decimated only 20 years later with most competent male figures being dead by now (Ned, Tywin, Jon Arryn, Hoster Tully, Robb, Doran (in the show), Oberyn) if more men kept popping out of the woodwork it would be a big stretch of the imagination.
As long as the characters of Jaime, Jon, and Tyrion are done well I won't be particularly upset.
The depletion of male leaders in Westeros is pretty well rooted in the storyline. Roberts rebellion lead to the deaths of Rhaegar, Rickard Stark, Brandon Stark, most of the Balon Greyjoy's sons, and more. We've seen those noble houses further decimated only 20 years later with most competent male figures being dead by now (Ned, Tywin, Jon Arryn, Hoster Tully, Robb, Doran (in the show), Oberyn) if more men kept popping out of the woodwork it would be a big stretch of the imagination.
As long as the characters of Jaime, Jon, and Tyrion are done well I won't be particularly upset.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 7:20 am to CorporateTiger
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As long as the characters of Jaime, Jon, and Tyrion are done well I won't be particularly upset.
Davos and Torrmond are also very strong male characters.
Bran might be the most powerful person on the entire show.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 7:28 am to Salmon
I think Davos is going to wind up dead. Tormund possibly too though I hope for a Brienne Tormund family at the end.
Bran is super powerful, but I don't see him ever being a societal leader. He is a bit too steeped in mysticism to become a lord again.
Bran is super powerful, but I don't see him ever being a societal leader. He is a bit too steeped in mysticism to become a lord again.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 7:32 am to CorporateTiger
I think Davos will be standing at the end.
But I'm pretty sure Cersei, Yara, Sandsnakes and possibly Margery also end up dead before this is over.
Basically I think the whole premise of this thread is just an overreaction to the place in time we are in the story.
But I'm pretty sure Cersei, Yara, Sandsnakes and possibly Margery also end up dead before this is over.
Basically I think the whole premise of this thread is just an overreaction to the place in time we are in the story.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 7:54 am to Bard
I think this is a valid viewpoint. But remember, we get to see the kinda big picture and we see what is happening behind the scenes. In real-time in the GOT world (if that makes sense), I would imagine almost ever person views the world in the exact opposite.
Most of those powerful female characters outside of Danaerys, maybe Sansa (not really sure about that) and the Sands, the others have no formal, legal, or even an assumed claim to any position of leadership or power right now, and outside of advising men would be 100% ignored and maybe killed if they tried to give orders to the military or the regular citizens or masses of people.
Yes they do have power and are key players, but I don't think the GOT world is at all poised for a female takeover outside of Danaerys.
Most of those powerful female characters outside of Danaerys, maybe Sansa (not really sure about that) and the Sands, the others have no formal, legal, or even an assumed claim to any position of leadership or power right now, and outside of advising men would be 100% ignored and maybe killed if they tried to give orders to the military or the regular citizens or masses of people.
Yes they do have power and are key players, but I don't think the GOT world is at all poised for a female takeover outside of Danaerys.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 7:55 am to hawgfaninc
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that said, I don't see anything wrong with the women in GoT taking more commanding roles. there's plenty of male commanding roles. also a womans touch can calm the chaos that men tend to create.
Uhhhh Cersei is a fricking fool, Ellaria killed Doran even though he had a plan all along, Tyrion just bitch slapped Dany back to reality, and literally the ENTIRE chain of events that has happened in the series and before with Robert's war was created by fricking women. I think it's safe to say that the only reason more and more women are coming to power is because they've been warring with each other for a long time so there are gonna be a lot less men.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 7:57 am to LoveThatMoney
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bumbling idiot (Jon)
Does not compute.
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Posted on 6/21/16 at 8:18 am to Salmon
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Basically I think the whole premise of this thread is just an overreaction to the place in time we are in the story.
This
Posted on 6/21/16 at 9:25 am to StarSaint
What I find great about GoT being an explicitly feminist show is A) its massive popularity amongst those who would reject a feminist worldview and B) the fact the feminist geek sites HATE the show for its continued portrayal of rape. The Mary Sue, perhaps the leading feminist geek site, cancelled its episode reviews over the issue.
So... the biggest feminist website in geek culture is refusing to review the most popular feminist geek show on TV because it is not feminist enough.
If you're loathed by both the Sad Puppies AND the Mary Sue... you're doing something right.
So... the biggest feminist website in geek culture is refusing to review the most popular feminist geek show on TV because it is not feminist enough.
If you're loathed by both the Sad Puppies AND the Mary Sue... you're doing something right.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 10:10 am to Jack Ruby
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Even the mean ones like Cersei are somewhat painted as victims
But but...she's a good mother...she loves her children. Yeah, like that's unusual. 98% of mothers love their children. Some people make it like it's a big achievement for Cersei when it should be a default.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 10:38 am to Salmon
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Basically I think the whole premise of this thread is just an overreaction to the place in time we are in the story.
There's no real "reaction" from me nor Mrs Bard (except that the concept excites her) other than this post. I'm enjoying the series immensely and just posting an observation I found interesting (especially since I hadn't really thought about it before).
To be honest, the way Martin has written all of this and the way the producers are portraying these post-book episodes, it all feels very organic (not like anything is forced - except for maybe Sansa not telling Jon that LF might be on the way, they really need to explain her silence on that in the next episode).
Posted on 6/21/16 at 10:39 am to Salmon
quote:I'd be more receptive to this idea if it weren't for the rapes the show added, which weren't in the book, and the S6 recurring "men are weak" theme, expressed by the sand sluts and Yara.
Basically I think the whole premise of this thread is just an overreaction to the place in time we are in the story.
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