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re: Ghostbusters - 2016 Official Trailer

Posted on 3/3/16 at 9:16 pm to
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37263 posts
Posted on 3/3/16 at 9:16 pm to
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They've already started.

Apparently Ghostbusters is a "difficult topic", and anyone who criticizes the new film is a misogynist that needs help in understanding why it's the greatest thing ever.


That article is ridiculous.
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
39731 posts
Posted on 3/3/16 at 9:24 pm to
That trailer is horrible.

I don't think I have made a negative post on the new movie before. Well, maybe when they initially announced the all chick cast, I might have been angry but I don't remember too many comments because I really didn't care. Was more upset that we never got another movie with the original cast than I was about the chick thing.

Now, having seen that, it appears all of the negative angry reactions were correct. Looks like a total shitstorm.

Really stupid to mention the original and then pretend it didn't exist in the new movie. I don't quite understand why they went that way.

Figured the CGI would look a bit better. The jokes in the trailer were almost nonexistent. Not seeing this one. Shame.

Posted by DanMullins4Life
Member since Oct 2012
3168 posts
Posted on 3/3/16 at 9:28 pm to
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
36041 posts
Posted on 3/3/16 at 9:29 pm to
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Shame.
Posted by ThoseGuys
Wishing I was back in NC
Member since Nov 2012
1979 posts
Posted on 3/3/16 at 9:42 pm to
It doesn't happen often, but I agree with the people from the Talk on this one (to a degree). Sony acts like it is being progressive by casting an all female cast yet continues to play off stereotypes for the characters. It is still three white people to one black character. The three white people are scientist and the black woman is loud and brazen. Granted the Talk also has a loud and brazen black woman who is a stereotype on their show as well.

This looks like a bad movie. It looks like Sony is banking on the fact that it is an all-female cast instead of being a well-thought out movie. It is everything Ghostbuster fans feared when this was announced.

If the goal was a more diverse Ghostbusters, they could have did it in a way that didn't feel forced. New York is the most diverse city in the US. This is just cheap pandering.
Posted by Tom288
Jacksonville
Member since Apr 2009
20986 posts
Posted on 3/3/16 at 10:19 pm to
So it looks like Tumblr finally made a movie!
Posted by Kayhill Brown
Member since May 2010
940 posts
Posted on 3/3/16 at 10:38 pm to
Honestly, didn't think the trailer was THAT bad. It wasn't great but I'll wait until I see the movie to form an opinion. Love me some Wiig and McKinnon.
Posted by DanglingFury
Living the dream
Member since Dec 2007
20449 posts
Posted on 3/3/16 at 10:49 pm to
That trailer makes the movie look like it's somewhere between RIPD and Pixels in quality. I'm just guessing though, I never saw either of those.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
36041 posts
Posted on 3/3/16 at 11:21 pm to
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That trailer makes the movie look like it's somewhere between RIPD and Pixels in quality. I'm just guessing though, I never saw either of those.



Post of the day.
Posted by hg
Member since Jun 2009
123621 posts
Posted on 3/3/16 at 11:24 pm to
That's great
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61224 posts
Posted on 3/3/16 at 11:33 pm to
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Seth Rogan, James Franco, Danny McBride, Craig Robinson.


Nah, maybe if Jay Baruchel was in it. You could have Franco and Baruchel as serious scientists with a few quirks, Craig Robinson could play a similar role to Winston Zeddmore as a common sense-level headed guy, and then....idk who you'd put in the last spot, Ben Stiller? ?

This show has ZERO seriousness. Ghostbusters was originally more serious than comedy. I don't know why anyone thought it was a comedy or that its supposed to be a comedy, its not, and it never was intended, it just happened the characters were able to bring that considering their backgrounds, AND it made for the perfect blend.

This looks like SNL: The Ghost Skit for 2 hours.
Posted by Brightside Bengal
Old Metairie
Member since Sep 2007
3883 posts
Posted on 3/4/16 at 12:05 am to
If these are the best lines from the movie that they could pull for the trailer....

This will be much much worse than we feared.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65082 posts
Posted on 3/4/16 at 12:43 am to
Ghostbusters was a dark comedy. Let's not make it into something it wasn't.

If you don't see the humor in the Stay Puft Marshmallow Man attacking New York then you need to check your sense of humor and make sure it isn't broken.

This post was edited on 3/4/16 at 1:36 am
Posted by BamaChemE
Midland, TX
Member since Feb 2012
7140 posts
Posted on 3/4/16 at 2:01 am to
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DanMullins4Life


This 4chan story will probably be funnier than anything in the actual movie.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
36041 posts
Posted on 3/4/16 at 2:40 am to
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Ghostbusters was originally more serious than comedy. I don't know why anyone thought it was a comedy or that its supposed to be a comedy, its not, and it never was intended, it just happened the characters were able to bring that considering their backgrounds, AND it made for the perfect blend.


Maybe in the eyes of a child it would appear to be a serious movie. Ghostbusters was a straight up comedy.
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
66982 posts
Posted on 3/4/16 at 6:21 am to
You know that trailer really didn't look to bad until Leslie Jones showed up and started just yelling and shite acting like she always does.

I'll go as far as to say the first 30 seconds or so was a solid tribute to the original and Wiig, McKinnon, and McCarthy looked good.

Then the Oakland Raiders Linebacker shows up.
This post was edited on 3/4/16 at 9:28 pm
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2005
73144 posts
Posted on 3/4/16 at 6:51 am to
I really like this post on reddit about it:

quote:

Here's what the movie industry doesn't get about Ghostbusters or other films where some characters improvised dialogue: those movies had extremely well written scripts, and only one (maybe two) characters were allowed to improv. In the original Ghostbusters, all the other characters had relatively unfunny (as in not jokes) parts, but the humor came from the absurdness of the dialogue, the set up of the scenes, and a few well-placed wise cracks by Venkman.

The movie had perfect scenes that moved the story along despite a pretty convoluted plot (see LINK:). For example, in one of the opening scenes Venkman (Bill Murray) is shown to be a paranormal researcher at a university. He's testing out whether or not negative reinforcement can increase telepathy. As soon as the guy student starts to get really irritated, he actually picks the right card (thus confirming Venkmans hypothesis)! That was a subtle way of setting up the movie to show that in this universe, weird things like ghosts are possible. And, it shows that Venkman, PhD scientist that he is, isn't above hitting on college girls.

Rick Moranis was also allowed to improvise because he's good at it and it fit with his character. He was mostly separate from the main characters, so it wasn't like too many people were improvising off each other, which often results in bad timing and scenes going on too long. The set design was grungy and dirty because these were ex-college professors who didn't have a lot of money.
The original also followed the "show don't tell rule," which was broken in the new trailer by telling the audience who was good at what, when it would've been a whole lot better to just convey that through character actions. Dan Akroyd's original script (his first) was like 500 pages long and went into excruciating detail about ghosts and paranormal shite, because his dad was an actual paranormal investigator.

Rob Ager also has a good video on some other aspects of the movie that make it so memorable: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Si-02lBpkxg

What Hollywood should do, since they don't have many new ideas left, is pick movies that came out in the 70s-80s that had an okay premise but were bogged down by time/money constraints, and remake those films with better resources.

This post was edited on 3/4/16 at 6:54 am
Posted by Salamander_Wilson
Member since Jul 2015
7679 posts
Posted on 3/4/16 at 7:15 am to
This trailer came up on my Facebook feed.

It had 22k likes and 1.5k angry faces.

Almost every single comment I read saying they couldnt wait to see it was by a woman.

Sadly, this movie is going to make money.

Not from Ghostbusters fans,but from women who like shitty movies.
Posted by Pectus
Internet
Member since Apr 2010
67302 posts
Posted on 3/4/16 at 8:18 am to
quote:

quote:

Here's what the movie industry doesn't get about Ghostbusters or other films where some characters improvised dialogue: those movies had extremely well written scripts, and only one (maybe two) characters were allowed to improv. In the original Ghostbusters, all the other characters had relatively unfunny (as in not jokes) parts, but the humor came from the absurdness of the dialogue, the set up of the scenes, and a few well-placed wise cracks by Venkman.

The movie had perfect scenes that moved the story along despite a pretty convoluted plot (see LINK:). For example, in one of the opening scenes Venkman (Bill Murray) is shown to be a paranormal researcher at a university. He's testing out whether or not negative reinforcement can increase telepathy. As soon as the guy student starts to get really irritated, he actually picks the right card (thus confirming Venkmans hypothesis)! That was a subtle way of setting up the movie to show that in this universe, weird things like ghosts are possible. And, it shows that Venkman, PhD scientist that he is, isn't above hitting on college girls.

Rick Moranis was also allowed to improvise because he's good at it and it fit with his character. He was mostly separate from the main characters, so it wasn't like too many people were improvising off each other, which often results in bad timing and scenes going on too long. The set design was grungy and dirty because these were ex-college professors who didn't have a lot of money.
The original also followed the "show don't tell rule," which was broken in the new trailer by telling the audience who was good at what, when it would've been a whole lot better to just convey that through character actions. Dan Akroyd's original script (his first) was like 500 pages long and went into excruciating detail about ghosts and paranormal shite, because his dad was an actual paranormal investigator.

Rob Ager also has a good video on some other aspects of the movie that make it so memorable: LINK

What Hollywood should do, since they don't have many new ideas left, is pick movies that came out in the 70s-80s that had an okay premise but were bogged down by time/money constraints, and remake those films with better resources.




I like this excerpt, but I have to say something....this same formula was tried in Evolution. It was exactly Ghostbusters, but with aliens. It wasn't as revered. It was the cast, probably.
Posted by Master of Sinanju
Member since Feb 2012
11320 posts
Posted on 3/4/16 at 8:34 am to
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As soon as the guy student starts to get really irritated, he actually picks the right card


And still gets shocked.
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