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re: Game of Thrones Season 3 Episode 2: Dark Wings, Dark Words - BOOK READERS Thread
Posted on 4/8/13 at 11:20 am to Ash Williams
Posted on 4/8/13 at 11:20 am to Ash Williams
Haha yea about to say No Needle, not a fair fight.
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Posted on 4/8/13 at 11:21 am to SaintEB
quote:my guess is that the Catelyn betrayal is going to serve for both unfortunately
I still want to know if Robb beheads the Karstark for killing that Lannister they take hostage. I think that is important.
the viewer knows he's butthurt which is why he will turn
Posted on 4/8/13 at 11:21 am to KG5989
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Haha yea about to say No Needle, not a fair fight.
she wouldve just poked him with the pointy end
Posted on 4/8/13 at 11:22 am to manwich
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i thought Thoras disarming her so easily was pretty funny given her ego about her swordsmanship
I think she was just trying to show a brave face. I don't think it was ego. But his "toast" to her brothers after that was good too.
So many great lines and scenes last night. This is such a great show.
Posted on 4/8/13 at 11:23 am to manwich
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my guess is that the Catelyn betrayal is going to serve for both unfortunately
the viewer knows he's butthurt which is why he will turn
Yeah, that how it was in the books. It happens at Riverrun and they are headed there.
Posted on 4/8/13 at 11:25 am to BottomlandBrew
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I think they've given him too much screen time not to have the execution in the show.
Exactly.
Posted on 4/8/13 at 11:27 am to Ash Williams
BOOM. Ball game. Haha
And I get that there is so much to put in the show, but if there ever is a season that they could almost slow it down a little and take their time getting a lot of small things in there, its this season. 20 hours off of just 1 book
I guess since I just re-read book 3 before the season I pick up on a bunch of little things left out.
But if you think about the hours per book its crazy. And awesome at the same time. LOTR and HP would do a 2 and half hour movie on 1 book. Minus the last HP. GoT is doing at the minimum 10 hours on a book, and 20 hours on the 3rd book.
And I get that there is so much to put in the show, but if there ever is a season that they could almost slow it down a little and take their time getting a lot of small things in there, its this season. 20 hours off of just 1 book
I guess since I just re-read book 3 before the season I pick up on a bunch of little things left out.
But if you think about the hours per book its crazy. And awesome at the same time. LOTR and HP would do a 2 and half hour movie on 1 book. Minus the last HP. GoT is doing at the minimum 10 hours on a book, and 20 hours on the 3rd book.
Posted on 4/8/13 at 11:28 am to Bard
FWIW the wife made some hot mulled wine with spices for last night's episode
mmmm
Posted on 4/8/13 at 11:29 am to KG5989
quote:i can't wait to watch this book/seasons straight through
GoT is doing at the minimum 10 hours on a book, and 20 hours on the 3rd book.
Posted on 4/8/13 at 11:32 am to KG5989
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20 hours off of just 1 book
I don't think this is entirely accurate. I know they said this season would cover roughly half of season 3 (my guess is the end at the purple wedding) and I think they have insinuated the next season will start on books 4 and 5.
Posted on 4/8/13 at 11:36 am to TK421
and then stall for a few years while GRRM piddles around writing the final books
Posted on 4/8/13 at 11:38 am to TK421
It's pretty accurate for the most part. Sure, might add a few things from a diff season in there to speed up character development process, etc. But, for the most part it's a season per book, and we get 2 seasons on book 3.
Season 1- Book 1
Season 2- Book 2
Season 3 and 4- Book 3
The end of season 4 could be the start of book 4 or whatever, but for the most part a season per book and 2 seasons on book 3 is pretty accurate. It's not like they will combine books into a season. Might add a thing or 2 to help speed up the process, but for the most part it's a season per book and 2 seasons for book 3.
Season 1- Book 1
Season 2- Book 2
Season 3 and 4- Book 3
The end of season 4 could be the start of book 4 or whatever, but for the most part a season per book and 2 seasons on book 3 is pretty accurate. It's not like they will combine books into a season. Might add a thing or 2 to help speed up the process, but for the most part it's a season per book and 2 seasons for book 3.
Posted on 4/8/13 at 11:40 am to manwich
I've read where HBO and just show watchers in general have urged GRRM to hurry up with the books and he said he will try to finish the books before the show catches up to them and causing it to have a hiatus.
I think GRRM knows what's going to happen in the books and just needs to put it on paper. Or I just hope this is what's going on??
I think GRRM knows what's going to happen in the books and just needs to put it on paper. Or I just hope this is what's going on??
This post was edited on 4/8/13 at 11:42 am
Posted on 4/8/13 at 11:42 am to KG5989
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It's not like they will combine books into a season.
i could see them combining books 4 and 5 into a few seasons because those books, while focusing on different characters, occurred on the same timeline
so if they do a season with only book 4, people will wonder where all the people discussed in book 5 are and vice versa
Posted on 4/8/13 at 11:50 am to Ash Williams
That would be a lot of stuff to get into just a season or 2. And if they do it in 2 seasons, why not just do book 4 into a season then book 5 in a season?
My first read through I hated book 4. Second time I went through I loved it.
They introduce so many new and vital characters in book 4 it would be tough to develop them into major characters like they are in the book by combining them with book 5.
I could see them focusing the season on book 4, while having random scenes showing what's going on with the other "regular" characters. Keeping it most about book 4, while having some of the beginning scenes ok book 5 in there.
There are too many major characters in the 4th book to just breeze over them and not really give an in depth analysis of them.
Or they could introduce the book 4 characters randomly in the show during this season and season 4.
I don't know they can go any route with it. Just think them combining book 4 and another book would be a mistake considering there are so many new and extremely important characters in it.
My first read through I hated book 4. Second time I went through I loved it.
They introduce so many new and vital characters in book 4 it would be tough to develop them into major characters like they are in the book by combining them with book 5.
I could see them focusing the season on book 4, while having random scenes showing what's going on with the other "regular" characters. Keeping it most about book 4, while having some of the beginning scenes ok book 5 in there.
There are too many major characters in the 4th book to just breeze over them and not really give an in depth analysis of them.
Or they could introduce the book 4 characters randomly in the show during this season and season 4.
I don't know they can go any route with it. Just think them combining book 4 and another book would be a mistake considering there are so many new and extremely important characters in it.
This post was edited on 4/8/13 at 11:52 am
Posted on 4/8/13 at 11:51 am to KG5989
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I don't know they can go any route with it. Just think them combining book 4 and another book would be a mistake considering there are so many new and extremely important characters in it.
Like I said, I'm pretty sure the next two seasons will combine the end of book 3, and books 4 and 5. The will not go a full season without Dany, Jon, or Tyrion.
Posted on 4/8/13 at 11:52 am to KG5989
quote:they are concurrent
And if they do it in 2 seasons, why not just do book 4 into a season then book 5 in a season?
Posted on 4/8/13 at 11:55 am to KG5989
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I don't know they can go any route with it. Just think them combining book 4 and another book would be a mistake considering there are so many new and extremely important characters in it.
i agree, but you have to include the story lines from all the characters in some respect in each season
a) because the audience will be confused by the concurrent timeline/separate season thing
b) the actors will be pissed if they're not getting paid for a year and might consider leaving the show
Posted on 4/8/13 at 12:00 pm to TK421
So 2 and 1/2 books in 2 seasons? Considering the current rate of the show and the rate at which GRRM is writing the books, I'm not sure that will happen. One thing HBO does not want is to have them catch up with the books, then wait for the book to come out, then get the script for the show done, then start to film. That would put at the least a 2 year hiatus from last seasons end to the start of a new season. And that is just for book 6. Who knows how long it will take him to finish book 6 and then do book 7.
I don't see them speeding the show up that fast just for the reason that they don't want to take a break in between seasons just to allow GRRM finish the book.
Keep the pace of 1 or 2 seasons per book, allow GRRM to get ahead in his writing, and there would be no breaks in between seasons.
And I'm not saying make season 4 about everyone in just book 4 and forget all the other main characters already introduced. Make the main focus on book 4 and new characters, and have random scenes that show what the other characters are doing. Keep them in it, just not at the major role they are in now. The audience will be able to tell that these things are going on at the same time and will allow them to be introduced to new characters. Book 4 with random parts of book 5 to keep the older characters in the show relevant would be the best way to go about it. Then next season would be all book 5.
I don't see them speeding the show up that fast just for the reason that they don't want to take a break in between seasons just to allow GRRM finish the book.
Keep the pace of 1 or 2 seasons per book, allow GRRM to get ahead in his writing, and there would be no breaks in between seasons.
And I'm not saying make season 4 about everyone in just book 4 and forget all the other main characters already introduced. Make the main focus on book 4 and new characters, and have random scenes that show what the other characters are doing. Keep them in it, just not at the major role they are in now. The audience will be able to tell that these things are going on at the same time and will allow them to be introduced to new characters. Book 4 with random parts of book 5 to keep the older characters in the show relevant would be the best way to go about it. Then next season would be all book 5.
This post was edited on 4/8/13 at 12:04 pm
Posted on 4/8/13 at 12:12 pm to KG5989
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And I'm not saying make season 4 about everyone in just book 4 and forget all the other main characters already introduced. Make the main focus on book 4 and new characters, and have random scenes that show what the other characters are doing. Keep them in it, just not at the major role they are in now. The audience will be able to tell that these things are going on at the same time and will allow them to be introduced to new characters. Book 4 with random parts of book 5 to keep the older characters in the show relevant would be the best way to go about it. Then next season would be all book 5.
That would be hard to do on TV and keep it simple enough for the audience to follow.
The timelines of book 4 and 5 run congruent for the most part. It will be almost impossible to tell the story without combining books 4 and 5.
Also actors leaving the show because they would be almost non-existent for a season is a real possibility as well.
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