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re: Game of Thrones S8 E3 "The Long Night." Official Thread

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Posted by SammyTiger
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Posted on 4/29/19 at 11:59 am to
What are you talking about?

GRRM told them how it ends. They’re just filling in the gaps.

People who think every hero needs to die because that’s GOT are ignoring that the hero’s we have now aren’t blinded by thinking everyone else is noble.

Sansa isn’t eating dinner with the Frey’s
Jon isn’t giving Cersei a chance to flee with her kids like Nedd

The point is supposed to be that these people learned adapted and survived.

This post was edited on 4/29/19 at 12:00 pm
Posted by CarRamrod
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Posted on 4/29/19 at 12:00 pm to
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Well give us a good reason why they would be camped out there


YOU said that was their motive...... so why is it their motive just now and not for the past 10k years?
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 4/29/19 at 12:01 pm to
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I know that they used it for. But that was stupid. If you just speed out into darkness when you can't see anything?



It was pretty dark around WF too, cuz night


You never let an enemy approach your last line of defense before engaging them
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 4/29/19 at 12:01 pm to
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YOU said that was their motive...... so why is it their motive just now and not for the past 10k years?





I never said shite. I asked you what the purpose of them camping out around a cave that they couldn’t enter would be
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
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Posted on 4/29/19 at 12:02 pm to
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GRRM told them how it ends.


Not a single ounce of me believes this is true. I don't think GRRM had a fricking clue what was happening after the end of his last book. And he sure as frick didn't have an outline in his head that he handed to HBO. That's really not how many fiction writers write. They tell a story and it evolves as they put it down. They don't have an ending in mind and then try and get to it somehow and even if they do they often arrive at a different one as they write.
This post was edited on 4/29/19 at 12:02 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/29/19 at 12:02 pm to
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GRRM told them how it ends. They’re just filling in the gaps.

i always took that to mean like the end, end, i.e, something that happens in 2-3 episodes

quote:

People who think every hero needs to die

they don't ALL have to die, but they almost all survived. there were no stakes, ultimately...plus the whole fan service with Gendry, Mormont, etc
Posted by Greace
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 4/29/19 at 12:02 pm to
So basically Show Westeros would've been fine if not for Jon going around beyond the wall and then coming back and warning them that winter is coming. Book Westeros still has the Horn
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
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Posted on 4/29/19 at 12:02 pm to
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Your point doesn't make any sense.
says you who also isnt making any sense in this thread.

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ou are acting like the NK only wanted to kill the 3ER.

this is what you guys are saying.... is #1 motive was to erase man and that starts with the 3ER. YOU stated this.
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 4/29/19 at 12:03 pm to
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So basically Show Westeros would've been fine if not for Jon going around beyond the wall and then coming back and warning them that winter is coming. Book Westeros still has the Horn


The entirety of the Night's Watch was worthless. They just had to tip a spear and throw it at the guy when he showed up. End of problem. Could've been one guy in a guard Shack.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 4/29/19 at 12:04 pm to
If you don’t think GRRM has any idea who kills the NK or ends up on the Iron Throne that’s crazy
GRRM definitely isn’t a “I have It all mapped out” kinda writer but I think he knows big things like that.

Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 4/29/19 at 12:04 pm to
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so why would they be surrounding it?
because he wanted something that was in there. if you need king cake you dont go sit outside a seafood market.
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
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Posted on 4/29/19 at 12:05 pm to
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The point is supposed to be that these people learned adapted and survived.



Then the next episode is a discussion about sending Arya to kill eveyone in KL while they sleep. There is absolutely no other logical tactic in this fight.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 4/29/19 at 12:05 pm to
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because he wanted something that was in there. if you need king cake you dont go sit outside a seafood market.




I can walk into a store and get a king cake. The NK could not enter the cave until marking Bran.

A more apt example would be sitting outside of a closed king cake store waiting for a king cake
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79425 posts
Posted on 4/29/19 at 12:05 pm to
If you want a king cake I also Don’t stand outside a closed king cake store indefinitely

Also wouldn’t he need Bran to go in?

So what does surrounding it without Bran there do?
Posted by Greace
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Posted on 4/29/19 at 12:06 pm to
The massive amount you are melting is hilarious
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
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Posted on 4/29/19 at 12:06 pm to
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2) helping arya get into position
was she carrying a walkie talkie?
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79425 posts
Posted on 4/29/19 at 12:07 pm to
I would agree that if they don’t somehow reduce Arya’s magic bullet effect it won’t work, but come on.

They aren’t blindly charging around relying on nobility like Nedd and Robb
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
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Posted on 4/29/19 at 12:07 pm to
She didn’t bring all Dothraki with her across the sea. There are more.
Posted by Greace
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 4/29/19 at 12:07 pm to
Do we even know that the NK knew where that tree was before he marked Bran?
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 4/29/19 at 12:08 pm to
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was she carrying a walkie talkie?




If this is a serious question, he can warg into other people, aka Arya, with the information he has about the location of wights
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