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re: Game of Thrones S6E7 "The Broken Man" (book reader thread - NO LEAKS)

Posted on 6/7/16 at 9:18 pm to
Posted by molsusports
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Posted on 6/7/16 at 9:18 pm to
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I've seen mucho plagiarism in these threads fwiw.


If you see something, say something. We must protect the integrity of these threads!!!



There's some shut-in who keeps yammering on about HS=HR. Pretty sure he didn't come up with that on his own.
Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 6/7/16 at 9:21 pm to
Not the same, I'm promoting an almost certain truth, which I didn't claim to figure out on my own. But I used my own dumb words.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 6/7/16 at 9:22 pm to
Just fricking with you. Other than your cat-like obsession with sparrows I like half of your jokes.
Posted by Methuselah
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Posted on 6/7/16 at 9:24 pm to
Why the heck haven't any of you esteemed ladies and gentlemen started the episode 8 thread yet? Time's a wastin.
Posted by P-Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 6/7/16 at 9:26 pm to
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Being against torture is part of the pussification of Westeros.


Posted by LucasP
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Posted on 6/7/16 at 9:27 pm to
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cat-like obsession with sparrows


Nice
Posted by P-Dawg
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Posted on 6/7/16 at 9:28 pm to
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Why the heck haven't any of you esteemed ladies and gentlemen started the episode 8 thread yet? Time's a wastin.


I think there's some sort of gentleman's agreement that they don't start it until Wednesday.
Posted by Methuselah
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Posted on 6/7/16 at 9:33 pm to
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I think there's some sort of gentleman's agreement that they don't start it until Wednesday.


Ah. Makes sense.
Posted by montanagator
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 6/8/16 at 1:08 am to
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yup, book Varys is an absolute piece of shite of the highest order.

show Varys has some loyalty and respect for humanity.




Book Varys has a loyalty-- its just the person he was loyal to isn't a character on the show.
Posted by montanagator
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 6/8/16 at 1:12 am to
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She can't trust anyone around her because of a prophecy. Remind you of anyone? cough cersei cough. She has already shown how cruel she can be and is obsessed with how she has to be a queen and ruler.

I just can't buy the fact that atheist, feminist, GRRM wrote his magnum opus to end with the continued reign of feudalism.


Both Dany and Jon have shown a caring for the powerless, the difference I think, and what makes Jon more suited for rule is two fold:

1) Jon has literally died for his mistakes, Dany's basically had the Dragons or her immunity to fire bail her out of every misstep.

2) Jon has the Stark devotion to duty and honor which balances his more utoptian tendencies, hell he turned away from what might be his one shot at love to defend Castle Black-- Dany just goes "frick it burn them all" -- which if you look at the history of Westeros is kind of a bad sign.
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Posted by montanagator
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 6/8/16 at 1:17 am to
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Shitty writing? Because we didn't see him rowing around with Haldon and JonCon? Isn't that what everyone complains about with Dany?("just get to westeros already"). Aegon would be the typical hero in every other fantasy. Instead he is going to be the final step to Dany becoming Cersei.

And it's not like George didn't foreshadow. He repeatedly wrote that Aegon's face was unrecognizable. Too much actually. It would actually be shitty writing for Varys(freaking Varys) to not switch the babies knowing the trouble Aegon was in if Robert won.





This would be my bet. Both from the book and the show Jon is the typical hero but with some major changes that make him better suited to end on the throne-- he didn't sacrifice everything for love- he betrayed his love for duty, he stayed true to the meaning if not the letter of his oath.
Posted by Pocket Kingz
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Posted on 6/8/16 at 1:38 am to
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Arya is leading the waif into a trap with the help of the actress. She had something that would absorb the knife blow under her jacket and led the waif to stab her in that spot. The actress provided the fake blood packets. Arya put on a show through the town market making sure everyone would talk about the dying girl. Remember the actress telling her how she had expressive eyes.


It has to be something along these lines. Arya is definitely beating them at their own game or at least beating the waif.

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The only hole in that theory is that I don't think the actors use blood packs in that time period. During the play in which King Robert is disemboweled, his guts are just cloth and stuffing. There is no fake blood.


I wouldn't disqualify this theory based on the disembowled King; the dramatic effect and silliness of the cloth guts seems to be in line with the rest of the act (flatulence and whatnot).
Posted by saintsfan92612
Taiwan
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Posted on 6/8/16 at 2:23 am to
Posted by FT
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Posted on 6/8/16 at 3:35 am to
That gave me a freedom boner
Posted by saintsfan92612
Taiwan
Member since Oct 2008
29555 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 3:45 am to
definitely a lot of major characters for such a minor house.

Jon's mentor, Dany's advisor, one of Robb's advisors, and a brave girl at the head of 62 men.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 6/8/16 at 6:11 am to
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Book Varys has a loyalty-- its just the person he was loyal to isn't a character on the show.


If you mean Aegon, then I don't think Book Varys is loyal to him either. Varys is using him for his own revenge plot, and Aegon is entirely in the dark on this. If Varys had a dick and balls, I feel almost confident Varys would have betrayed him for his own needs. He just knows that no one would follow a eunuch, so he needs Aegon as a puppet figurehead. Plus Varys has never met the kid (aside from maybe when he was a toddler), so I don't see him having fondness of him either.

The only person Varys has some loyalty towards is Illyrio, but even he I think Varys wouldn't hesitate to eliminate if he weren't willing to follow through with his plans. Varys is in it for revenge while Illyrio is in it for the love of his wife and son. Two totally different motivations to achieve the same ends. If Varys should have some different end in mind that may be further than Illyrio is willing to go, Varys will have him killed.
Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 6/8/16 at 6:48 am to
Arya would have to know where she was going to stab her. Wouldn't work if it was a throat slash.
Posted by saintsfan92612
Taiwan
Member since Oct 2008
29555 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 6:59 am to
someone needs to fark Arya's head on Jeff Daniels'

Posted by shinerfan
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Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 6/8/16 at 7:27 am to
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u mean Aegon, then I don't think Book Varys is loyal to him either. Varys is using him for his own revenge plot, and Aegon is entirely in the dark on this. If Varys had a dick and balls, I feel almost confident Varys would have betrayed him for his own needs. He just knows that no one would follow a eunuch, so he needs Aegon as a puppet figurehead. Plus Varys has never met the kid (aside from maybe when he was a toddler), so I don't see him having fondness of him either.



Unless Varys and Serra were brother and sister.
Posted by CBandits82
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Member since May 2012
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Posted on 6/8/16 at 7:35 am to
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8) Vargo Hoat, Rorge, and the Brave Companions at large



One of the shows biggest flaws to me was not having Vargo Hoat. That character is wild.
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