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re: Game of Thrones S6E7 "The Broken Man" (book reader thread - NO LEAKS)

Posted on 6/3/16 at 12:47 pm to
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 12:47 pm to
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JumpingTheShark

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CorporateTiger

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wildtigercat93

congrats you understood a part of a book I did not

let me see if I can find 3 cookies or gold stars
Posted by Saskwatch
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 12:49 pm to
Dany is fireproof and GRRM is full of shite. My personal take on things.
Posted by CorporateTiger
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 12:50 pm to
I wouldn't try google to find them, that might be too much effort required of you.
Posted by EarthwormJim
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 12:55 pm to
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He says she can't do it again..... What more do you want?


He says all Targs aren't immune to fire. Then when asked if Dany will do it again he says "probably not".

She aslo survives dragon fire that burns all her hair off in Dance. And in GOT there are references to hot water and hot dragon egg which have no impact on her.

There's a good bit in the books alluding to Dany having some form of immunity to fire.
This post was edited on 6/3/16 at 12:56 pm
Posted by Bamatab
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 12:58 pm to
Here is a link to where GRRM says Targs aren't fireproof: LINK
This post was edited on 6/3/16 at 12:59 pm
Posted by craigbiggio
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 12:58 pm to
LINK

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In 2000 GRRM wrote in an online Q&A (emphasis is his, not mine):

Granny: Do Targaryens become immune to fire once they "bond" to their dragons?
George_RR_Martin: Granny, thanks for asking that. It gives me a chance to clear up a common misconception. TARGARYENS ARE NOT IMMUNE TO FIRE! The birth of Dany's dragons was unique, magical, wonderous, a miracle. She is called The Unburnt because she walked into the flames and lived. But her brother sure as hell wasn't immune to that molten gold.
Revanshe: So she won't be able to do it again?
George_RR_Martin: Probably not.


FWIW I don't think this proves anything. It's a random message board post referencing an online Q&A he did in 2000. And he doesn't even outright say Dany is NOT immune.
Posted by CorporateTiger
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 12:59 pm to
Again the whole thing with the hot water is much more easily explained by it being a hot bath but well within normal tolerances.

As to the drago fire, I can show you plenty of people on the internet who have their hair and/other hair singed off without suffering burns.

Overall if GRRM said she "probably" can't do it again then it seems to be a death knell to her being blanket fire immune.
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 1:00 pm to
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Bamatab

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craigbiggio

Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 1:03 pm to
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And he doesn't come outright and say Dany is NOT immune to fire


Umm

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TARGARYENS ARE NOT IMMUNE TO FIRE!
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 1:05 pm to
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And he doesn't come outright and say Dany is NOT immune to fire


Umm

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TARGARYENS ARE NOT IMMUNE TO FIRE!

umm

dany does not equal all targaryens
Posted by guedeaux
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 1:05 pm to
Good thing we start the next episode thread so early. It really provokes stimulating and worth-while conversations.
Posted by JumpingTheShark
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 1:05 pm to
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TARGARYENS ARE NOT IMMUNE TO FIRE


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umm dany does not equal all targaryens


oh my god

You are hopeless.

I don't even know the logic you are trying to make here.

This post was edited on 6/3/16 at 1:09 pm
Posted by craigbiggio
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 1:05 pm to
All that says to me is Targs are not born immune to fire. Danny is obviously immune when her dragons are born.
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 1:07 pm to
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All that says to me is Targs are not born immune to fire. Danny is obviously immune when her dragons are born.


all of this
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 1:08 pm to
All the other examples you posted were from before her dragons were born, so that doesn't really hold up either.
Posted by craigbiggio
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 1:10 pm to
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All the other examples you posted were from before her dragons were born, so that doesn't really hold up either.



WTF are you talking about? The shite with her holding the hot eggs or getting in the hot bath water? I never said anything about those being proof she is fire immune. That's just foreshadowing her walking out of the fire at the end of the book.

It's completely possible that because of Mirri's magic she is now immune to fire, not only because she is Targaryen.
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 1:10 pm to
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Revanshe: So she won't be able to do it again?
George_RR_Martin: Probably not.

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George_RR_Martin: Probably not.

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Probably not.

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Probably
Posted by JumpingTheShark
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 1:11 pm to
This has gone on much longer than it should...just go back to trolling the SEC Rant. This conversation is pointless.
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 1:12 pm to
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Unique


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Magical


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A miracle



Are far more telling than the "probably"
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 1:12 pm to


sorry ya'll lost the argument
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