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re: Game of Thrones S6E7 "The Broken Man" (book reader thread - NO LEAKS)

Posted on 6/3/16 at 12:16 pm to
Posted by Kujo
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 12:16 pm to
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children who died before reaching 1 year of age.


I'm in the wrong thread, but wasn't there something in the TV show about them burning the children to make sure that they were dragon born or something?

Also, was it ever explained why her bro burned? Is Gold their Kryptonite?
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 12:19 pm to
Her brother wasn't a true dragon. Targs aren't Fire proof. Just Dany apparently. And that's only for the show
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 12:22 pm to
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Targs aren't Fire proof. Just Dany apparently. And that's only for the show


that sucks, kinda makes it cheap that they used it as such a device for her to gain power when in both circumstances she would have been imprisoned in some shed for life
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 12:22 pm to
Also even if you are fire proof, having molten metal coating your head is another issue on top of that.

I like the book explanation that Danny is not fire-proof better. I think the show sees it as a convenient excuse to keep burning her clothes off.
Posted by Kujo
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 12:24 pm to
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I like the book explanation that Danny is not fire-proof better.


why do they follow her when Khal dies, and how does she re-become the dothraki leader in the books when they get her again?
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 12:25 pm to
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Targs aren't Fire proof. Just Dany apparently. And that's only for the show

how do we know she and none of her kin are fireproof in the books?
This post was edited on 6/3/16 at 12:25 pm
Posted by CorporateTiger
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 12:25 pm to
Well the first burning scene happens the same way in the books though the explanation there is more tied up in the whole blood magic and dragon birth than Danny's ability to withstand fire.

The only reason she is dragged off to the Dosh Kahleen at that point is that all of the Warriors in Drogo's army assume she is dead and ride off. That leaves her with Jorah, three warriors loyal to her, and a bunch of civilians/slaves.

The second scene has not happened in the books.
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 12:25 pm to
It hasn't happened yet
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 12:27 pm to
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why do they follow her when Khal dies, and how does she re-become the dothraki leader in the books when they get her again?


In the books she still walks into the fire with Drogo and the eggs, and isn't burnt (except for all of her hair). But GRRM explained it as a magical event, and not that Targs were fireproof.
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 12:27 pm to
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Well the first burning scene happens the same way in the books though the explanation there is more tied up in the whole blood magic and dragon birth than Danny's ability to withstand fire.

seems like this made her fireproof or she was fireproof before it happened

no reason to doubt she was fireproof before it happened.

also didn't she pick up the dragon eggs in the book when they were really hot and she didn't notice?
Posted by CorporateTiger
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 12:27 pm to
GRRM has called the dragon birth scene exceptional and "miraculous." He said she wouldn't be able to do it again.
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 12:28 pm to
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quote: Targs aren't Fire proof. Just Dany apparently. And that's only for the show how do we know she and none of her kin are fireproof in the books? This post was edited on 6/3 at 12:25 pm


Jon was burned, viserys was burned. A bunch of targs burned at summer hall. GRRM said targs aren't immune to fire
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 12:28 pm to
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But GRRM explained it as a magical event, and not that Targs were fireproof.

where did he explain this?
Posted by CorporateTiger
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 12:29 pm to
They don't. Her followers right after Drogo's death are slaves and civilians left behind when Drogo's khalasar disperses on his death.

The books left off where S5 left off for Danny. She flies away on Drogon and sees the Dothraki coming (to take her to Vaes Dothrak).
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 12:29 pm to
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GRRM said targs aren't immune to fire

sure it appears some aren't

but at least dany is.

also where did grrm say all targs aren't fireproof?
Posted by CorporateTiger
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 12:29 pm to
Online Q&A years ago.
Posted by Bamatab
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 12:29 pm to
And doesn't she scold herself in the bath in the books? Seems I remember something about that.
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 12:30 pm to
In an interview a while back. It's easily Google able and has been discussed many times here
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 12:31 pm to
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And doesn't she scold herself in the bath in the books?

no she gets in and her servant says it's too hot but she doesn't notice
Posted by CorporateTiger
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 12:31 pm to
No the water is too hot for the servants but she says she likes it that way. Danny has always had an affinity for heat/fire where she spends time staring at her brazier in AGoT. I've always read the bath scene as being within normal human tolerance, she just feels a greater affinity than others.
This post was edited on 6/3/16 at 12:32 pm
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