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re: Game of Thrones S5:E9:"The Dance of Dragons", HODORS ONLY(No Book Readers)
Posted on 6/10/15 at 12:38 pm to rondo
Posted on 6/10/15 at 12:38 pm to rondo
He was for sure trying waaaay too hard the other night when he was talking to Hizdurh (or whatever the Meeren dude's name is/was).
Hizdurh also thought he was witty with some of his comments until Tyrion would shoot his stupid comments down.
But Daahrio, to steal a term that has been run into the ground by the OT, was acting Beta as frick for such a badass.
He was like the guy who played high school football and was pretty good and whenever you visit your hometown you see him and all he wants to do is talk about the "good ol' days". I don't know why Dany eats that shite up. I guess he is a step up for her as a conversationalist & pillow talk from K. Drogo.
Hizdurh also thought he was witty with some of his comments until Tyrion would shoot his stupid comments down.
But Daahrio, to steal a term that has been run into the ground by the OT, was acting Beta as frick for such a badass.
He was like the guy who played high school football and was pretty good and whenever you visit your hometown you see him and all he wants to do is talk about the "good ol' days". I don't know why Dany eats that shite up. I guess he is a step up for her as a conversationalist & pillow talk from K. Drogo.
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Posted on 6/10/15 at 12:42 pm to CocomoLSU
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And even fighting with him and chucking spears at him?
I thought it was convenient for the Harpys to go from daggers when stabbing everyone to spears when the dragon appeared. Sure, I realize a few spears had to have been dropped by the Unsullied that had been killed, but in one shot it looked like most all Harpys suddenly had spears. It also looked like a cpl Unsullied may have gotten toasted by the dragon.
Posted on 6/10/15 at 1:55 pm to Titus Pullo
The unsullied sure have fallen a long way from standing in formation and chopping off their own nipples without flinching.
Now they get owned by mask-wearing circus freaks with knives.
Now they get owned by mask-wearing circus freaks with knives.
Posted on 6/10/15 at 1:59 pm to Tiger Ree
One thing I haven't seen mentioned is that had Davis not set Gendry free then Stannis wouldn't have had to offer up Shireen to the Lord of Light. So by saving Gendry, Davos killed Shireen.
Which is a fact I'm sure is not lost on Stannis or Melisande. Stannis himself told Melisande that he didn't have Robert's bastard when she said that the Lord of Light wanted a sacrifice of king's blood.
Eta. I guess I should have read a cpl more posts and seen where Coco made this point.
Which is a fact I'm sure is not lost on Stannis or Melisande. Stannis himself told Melisande that he didn't have Robert's bastard when she said that the Lord of Light wanted a sacrifice of king's blood.
Eta. I guess I should have read a cpl more posts and seen where Coco made this point.
This post was edited on 6/10/15 at 2:01 pm
Posted on 6/10/15 at 2:00 pm to Jamohn
The unsullied are a disappointment. They put up zero resistance and apparently nobody surveys the crowd when there are obvious threats afoot.
Posted on 6/10/15 at 2:01 pm to Titus Pullo
Guess they needed a "bigger" sacrifice this time as well by not going the leach route?
Posted on 6/10/15 at 2:10 pm to BOSCEAUX
In hindsight we should have known the Unsullied were going to turn out to be a little pussyfied when it showed them going to brothels and curling up against the bosoms of whores while they hummed them bedtime songs.
I guess that's where the other several thousand are while there are a few hundred on duty at a time.
I guess that's where the other several thousand are while there are a few hundred on duty at a time.
This post was edited on 6/10/15 at 6:30 pm
Posted on 6/10/15 at 7:23 pm to Titus Pullo
Posted on 6/10/15 at 8:36 pm to HeavyCore
I don't think Stannis is being ambitious. People are acting like he's power hungry, but I don't think that's really it. He doesn't want power, he's just positive that he's meant to be king, that he's the rightful one, and he's fulfilling his duty. He doesn't seem to take any pleasure in conquest or rule. He just does it because he feels like he must.
Posted on 6/10/15 at 8:55 pm to Titus Pullo
That, and wtf happened to the masked guys after Drogon flew off? They were all left in the arena and the masked guys just bailed?
And I am not that type of plot hole finder, but this seemed odd. Although I guess they could pick right up from there, but unlikely.
And I am not that type of plot hole finder, but this seemed odd. Although I guess they could pick right up from there, but unlikely.
Posted on 6/10/15 at 10:20 pm to ehidal1
quote:I know this isn't the correct answer, but maybe the Unsullied are a lot more effective when attacking, than when doing something like patrolling or protecting Dany. Now that she's out of the arena, they could go on the offensive.
That, and wtf happened to the masked guys after Drogon flew off? They were all left in the arena and the masked guys just bailed?
And I am not that type of plot hole finder, but this seemed odd. Although I guess they could pick right up from there, but unlikely.
In real life, the point has been made that "real army" troops are great at invading and conquering, but you want to bring in, basically, cops, to police the occupied territories. Soldiers are out of their element when doing that.
Posted on 6/10/15 at 10:47 pm to Scoob
Yeah, the Unsullied are designed for open field combat as a phalanx or vanguard. They're not designed to fight one on one in close quarters and against stealthy attacks.
Put them up against your average to above average Westerosi approaching army and they'll wreck shop.
Put them up against your average to above average Westerosi approaching army and they'll wreck shop.
Posted on 6/11/15 at 12:21 pm to FT
Ser Davis knew something bad was going to happen when Stannis sent him to Castle Black. That's why he ask that she be able to accompany him and he gave her the stag and thanked her for teaching him to "be a grown up". Basically his way of saying goodbye.
What will his reaction be when he returns from Castle Black and hears what Stannis has done?
ETA: For anyone that wants to rewatch the episodes of this season, HBO starts Sunday at 11am central on HB2e and 2pm on HB2w leading right up to the season finale.
What will his reaction be when he returns from Castle Black and hears what Stannis has done?
ETA: For anyone that wants to rewatch the episodes of this season, HBO starts Sunday at 11am central on HB2e and 2pm on HB2w leading right up to the season finale.
This post was edited on 6/11/15 at 12:27 pm
Posted on 6/11/15 at 12:47 pm to Titus Pullo
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Ser Davis knew something bad was going to happen when Stannis sent him to Castle Black. That's why he ask that she be able to accompany him and he gave her the stag and thanked her for teaching him to "be a grown up". Basically his way of saying goodbye.
What will his reaction be when he returns from Castle Black and hears what Stannis has done?
I hope he wrecks shop on Stannis to be honest. I was talking about this to a buddy of mine, and he thinks that Davos knew what was up and I said no fricking way he'd leave if he knew that was gonna happen. IMO he wanted to take her out of there because he knew that the war would be dangerous for her, as well as knowing that Ramsay and his band of merrymen were around. But if Davos would've known that Stannis would sacrifice Shireen, he'd have stolen her and gotten her out of there.
That being said, however, I am not confident that Davos will make it back from Castle Black. He's one of my favorite characters and seems like a good dude, and those kinds of people always get killed off on this goddamn show.
Posted on 6/11/15 at 2:04 pm to CocomoLSU
Stannis sent him to Castle Black because he would have probably had to hang him for insubordination when Davos saw what was about to go down. I can't imagine Davos just standing there and watching without trying to stop it.
I think Davos had to know something was up. He tried every way he could think of to get out of carrying the message to CB, then he begged to carry Stannis' family and then just his daughter. Then he went in and basically said his good byes and thanked Shireen. I believe he also caught the Witch and Stannis' wife starring at Shireen like she was a piece of meat.
No way to know for sure one way or another at this point though.
I also think Davos makes it back and finds out what has happened, otherwise he's not going to be able to feel guilt that it is his fault because he let Robert's bastard free.
I think Davos had to know something was up. He tried every way he could think of to get out of carrying the message to CB, then he begged to carry Stannis' family and then just his daughter. Then he went in and basically said his good byes and thanked Shireen. I believe he also caught the Witch and Stannis' wife starring at Shireen like she was a piece of meat.
No way to know for sure one way or another at this point though.
I also think Davos makes it back and finds out what has happened, otherwise he's not going to be able to feel guilt that it is his fault because he let Robert's bastard free.
This post was edited on 6/11/15 at 2:08 pm
Posted on 6/11/15 at 3:35 pm to Titus Pullo
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I also think Davos makes it back and finds out what has happened, otherwise he's not going to be able to feel guilt that it is his fault because he let Robert's bastard free.
Not really buying this logic. Even if they wouldve sacrificed Gendry Melisandre would still have plenty of other situations for which another sacrifice would be needed.
In fact,Im starting to doubt her reasons for these sacrifices. Im not doubting her magic; we've seen that some of that is obviously real. Im just wondering if her real intent is to get rid of all the ppl who have a claim to the throne. Joffrey dying when they burned the leaches didnt impress me much becuz he had it coming.
Posted on 6/11/15 at 3:41 pm to Pocket Kingz
quote:Joffrey and Robb could both be wholly attributed to coincidence.
Joffrey dying when they burned the leaches didnt impress me much becuz he had it coming.
Only proven act of power she's shown is the murderous vagina smoke monster (hereinafter "MVSM") taking out Renly. And I'm really not clear on why the MVSM had to suddenly disappear after stabbing Renly. Why wouldn't it stick around and continue to do her bidding. That thing could've wiped out all Stannis' competition in a day and given him an open path to the iron throne.
I do think there is some merit to the idea of her killing these individuals for a different purpose. I think part of it is continuing to assert her dominance over Stannis. Now she's gotten him to kill his own daughter so he's pot committed. Way too far gone to turn back to rational thought at this point.
Posted on 6/11/15 at 3:48 pm to CocomoLSU
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That being said, however, I am not confident that Davos will make it back from Castle Black
Castle Black seems like a bad place to be right now - wildlings there, long stares between Olly and Jon Snuh, Ser Allister threatening Samwell...
Davos dying would be devastating, he might be my favorite character on the show.
Posted on 6/11/15 at 3:49 pm to FT
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I don't think Stannis is being ambitious. People are acting like he's power hungry, but I don't think that's really it. He doesn't want power, he's just positive that he's meant to be king, that he's the rightful one, and he's fulfilling his duty. He doesn't seem to take any pleasure in conquest or rule. He just does it because he feels like he must.
I get what you are saying but, at some point, the cure becomes worse than the disease. I think the main point of him burning Shireen was to illustrate how his obsession with being King has eclipsed the actual practicality of doing so. If you noticed, he was wide eyed the entire episode.
This post was edited on 6/11/15 at 3:55 pm
Posted on 6/11/15 at 3:53 pm to Jamohn
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And I'm really not clear on why the MVSM had to suddenly disappear after stabbing Renly
This is a great point and I've wondered the same. I think we have to assume it has a pretty short self life.
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