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re: Game of Thrones S5:E9:"The Dance of Dragons", BOOK READERS
Posted on 6/8/15 at 12:17 am to JumpingTheShark
Posted on 6/8/15 at 12:17 am to JumpingTheShark
Seemed like he was only using 1 hand. Is the Greyscale fricking with his motor functions?
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Posted on 6/8/15 at 12:18 am to UMRealist
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I don't think it would be as huge a deal if this had been seen in the books already. People are just reacting to something new.
That's EXACTLY what it is, but it's nothing surprising to me at all. I'm sure this happens in one way or another in the upcoming books. Again, Stannis clearly explained that he believes he HAS to sacrifice Shireen. I'm pretty much chalking it up to her being his Nissa Nissa.
Posted on 6/8/15 at 12:18 am to The Midnight Rider
quote:Well, that's confirmed.
I'm sure this happens in one way or another in the upcoming books.
Posted on 6/8/15 at 12:19 am to Bamatab
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I did love Tyron's reaction to Drogon, and that whole event (especially Tyrion's dragon fascination in the books).
Dinklage being awesome without saying a thing...
I have watched this 100 times
Posted on 6/8/15 at 12:26 am to TxTiger82
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How do you know it is a change? In the extra stuff they do at the end of each episode, D&D said "when George first told us about it." As in, the show just spoiled the books, and GRRM wrote that.
Yeah. It was one of the first things they said in that segment. Kind of funny in a way - like they couldn't wait to let people know this was Martin's idea, not their's.
I was plenty pissed at the scene but not as pissed as I thought I was going to be (I got spoiled for it early this afternoon on another site). I actually kind of suspect that the reason it "leaked" early was to take some of the edge off of the reaction by people hearing/reading about it before seeing the episode.
It may sound strange but I think the reason I wasn't more pissed was the scene with the horse on fire running through the camp. It was so unrealistic looking to me that it took me out of the suspension of disbelief and reinforced that everything was just obviously a bunch of made up, not totally logical images on film.
Though I do have to admit that I find it somewhat disturbing that I watch a show for "entertainment" that seems to rely so much on these kinds of scene. Heck, I'd never watch snuff films or torture porn. I never even watched Blue Velvet after seeing it once. Never even had a desire to watch two girls and a cup. Now I find I'm a regular viewer of a show that more and more seems to rely on unsavory scenes as a staple of their storytelling method.
As for the quality of the episode, I thought it was decidely meh. The Dorne stuff was only slightly better than the really poorly done stuff with the Sand Snakes fighting from a few episodes ago. I didn't find the pit scenes well done at all (and I agree that it is disappointing that they've turned the Unsullied into such jobronis). The Wall stuff wasn't bad but was too short. Even the Bravos stuff didn't seem to flow as well as it has the last few episodes.
Posted on 6/8/15 at 12:32 am to The Midnight Rider
You really think Stannis is Azor Ahai, considering DnD's comments about him?
Posted on 6/8/15 at 12:33 am to UMRealist
If you look at this from a logical perspective the sacrifice of shireen makes absolute sense. Did you see the look on stannis' troops whenever he burned his daughter? They were hungry, cold as sh*t, and losing moral eating horses and shite. Why would they keep fighting after seeing some sh*t like that? It's painfully obvious that shireen will get resurrected, and undoubtedly fire up the troops to kick some Bolton arse.
Posted on 6/8/15 at 12:34 am to glassman
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Being such a coward that he begged her forgiveness and didn't witness the act.
Do you even watch the show?
Posted on 6/8/15 at 12:37 am to GeauxLSUGeaux
quote:uhhh
t's painfully obvious that shireen will get resurrected, and undoubtedly fire up the troops to kick some Bolton arse.
Posted on 6/8/15 at 12:40 am to weagle99
Yea I never got the love that some people had for Stannis. I do think the burning of Shireen is something GRRM would never have done with Stannis and it supports his own claim that Weis and Beinoff are darker than he is.
And while I'm very critical of the show, I do like what they did with Drogon returning to the pits and Dany's story line converging with Mormont's and Tyrion's.
And while I'm very critical of the show, I do like what they did with Drogon returning to the pits and Dany's story line converging with Mormont's and Tyrion's.
Posted on 6/8/15 at 12:40 am to The Midnight Rider
I think Stannis has enough reason to know that Mel and the prophecies/powers are imperfect at best. Heck wasn't he and her using a fake flaming sword coated with wildfire back at the very beginning.
You'd also think he was worldly enough to share Maester Marywn's view on prophecies:
You'd also think he was worldly enough to share Maester Marywn's view on prophecies:
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Gorghan of Old Ghis once wrote that a prophecy is like a treacherous woman. She takes your member in her mouth, and you moan with the pleasure of it and think, how sweet, how fine, how good this is... and then her teeth snap shut and your moans turn to screams. That is the nature of prophecy, said Gorghan. Prophecy will bite your prick off every time.[2] ”
– Marwyn, to Samwell Tarly, Alleras, and the "Pate" imposter
Posted on 6/8/15 at 12:42 am to Cockopotamus
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I do think the burning of Shireen is something GRRM would never have done with Stannis
Except he did...
Posted on 6/8/15 at 12:47 am to UMRealist
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uhhh
Do you even sarcasm brah?
Stannis is f*cked.
Posted on 6/8/15 at 12:52 am to GeauxLSUGeaux
Here's one question I have:
Does R'hollor require that the victims burnt to him suffer maximum agony while they are burned? I mean it would have still been horrible but if they had given her some Nightshade or something to put her to sleep before burning her it seems they would have gone that route.
Does R'hollor require that the victims burnt to him suffer maximum agony while they are burned? I mean it would have still been horrible but if they had given her some Nightshade or something to put her to sleep before burning her it seems they would have gone that route.
Posted on 6/8/15 at 1:01 am to Bamatab
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I did love Tyron's reaction to Drogon, and that whole event (especially Tyrion's dragon fascination in the books).
Same. Thought the show nailed it
Posted on 6/8/15 at 1:02 am to Byron Bojangles III
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Except he did...
When?
Its been almost 2 years since I finished Dance but I don't remember reading that happen
Posted on 6/8/15 at 1:03 am to Methuselah
I have so many feelings about this episode right now that I can't really describe it in words. I do, however, agree that the flow of this episode seemed off and that GRRM definitely has the Shireen burning coming in book 6. Tough to watch.
Posted on 6/8/15 at 1:15 am to Cockopotamus
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When?
Its been almost 2 years since I finished Dance but I don't remember reading that happen
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Posted on 6/8/15 at 1:20 am to Methuselah
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Does R'hollor require that the victims burnt to him suffer maximum agony while they are burned? I mean it would have still been horrible but if they had given her some Nightshade or something to put her to sleep before burning her it seems they would have gone that route
They have burned quite a few people alive on this show. It's quite f*cked up. They have also killed a lot of kids as well. Hasn't stopped anyone from watching it that I know of. That's kind of how the show is, its f*cked up. Which is why a lot of people watch it. Sansa might have gotten the unwanted rough marriage secks but she was also almost actually raped once before. It shouldn't be this "OMG since when have they sunk this low" b.s. Like it should be kind of expected by now. The hound killed Mycah the butchers boy and you have some hoping he's still alive because he's their fave.
Posted on 6/8/15 at 1:30 am to Byron Bojangles III
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Meh.
At the very least in GRRM's world Stannis doesn't stand there and watch his daughter burn because she is at the Wall and he is heading towards Winterfell.
In GRRM's world Melisendre could take it upon herself to burn Shireen with her mother's consent, without Stannis knowing at all.
To say GRRM telling the show runners that Shireen gets burned at the stake doesn't equal Stannis burning her.
I mean they did the Red Wedding and added Rob's wife and unborn child which isn't in GRRM's finished product. How do you know that GRRM had Shireen burning at the stake without Stannis's approval (let alone viewing)
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