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re: Game of Thrones S4:E5:"First of His Name", HODORS ONLY (no book readers)

Posted on 5/5/14 at 10:25 am to
Posted by TDTGodfather
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 10:25 am to
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I don't see her lasting very long either, though something will need to happen, so that LF can take control of the Eyrie (legitimately).

that would also include killing robin who would be (well and is really) the rightful heir to the eyrie. which i don't think LF has a problem with.

think of all the shite that robin must have thrown out that door in his lifetime. they should do a shot like at the end of LOST (the one that pissed everyone off) that's just the ground at the bottom of the eyrie below the moon door where there are smashed up toys, and gallagher watermelons, and dead rats, and skeletons and stuff.







also i just took from the hound (and the scene in general) that the bravosi have a different style of fighting than people (and knights) in westeros. i think of it more as syrio was like a luchadore and the hound is more like the big show. i would comapre the two to inigo montoya and fezzick but let's be real fezzick is just like a slightly smarter hodor.

edit: i think i dropped an audible "oh frick yes" when hodor became a vessel of destruction.
This post was edited on 5/5/14 at 10:28 am
Posted by UMRealist
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 10:35 am to
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George RR Martin really is a giant troll. If the Starks are never gonna reunite, then quit teasing us with POINTLESS bullshite about them almost connecting over and fricking over.


If we are going to really draw a hard line on book info can we all agree to stop blaming Martin for everything that happens in the show?
Posted by Mystery
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 10:39 am to
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bottom line is that there was no reason not to reunite with your brother right there, and this is now the second time that's happened where Jon has saved Bran but they didn't reunite.

That being said though, the whole Craster's Keep part was pretty awesome. From Ghost merking the frick out of Rast's bitch arse to Hodor going full retard and damn near snapping Locke's head clean off. I just wish Brandon would've talked to Jon, even if it was like "Hey, bro..can't talk long cuz we're heading north to some tree to save the world, but I missed you, man. Oh, and Rickon is alive too."



I don't agree with this. No way Jon would have let his cripple brother head farther north. After everything he knows about the north. No way. If they wanted to continue they could not speak.
Posted by TDTGodfather
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 10:41 am to
so LF was behind the death of basically two hands of the king and a king (joff). i take it as either tywin or cersei was behind the death of robert (using lancel sp?) but shite at this point littlefinger could have trained a killer boar. wouldn't put it past him.

the thing is, did he do all of the crap in the beginning just to get with cat? and now that she's dead is he doing everything just to get with sansa?

i guess what i'm getting at is does he really want to be king or just happy to be the puppetmaster??
Posted by UMRealist
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 10:50 am to
He wants everything and this is how he does it. LINK
Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 10:55 am to
He wants it all brand new socks and drawers.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 10:55 am to
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This is exactly what LF is doing right now. I doubt he'd fall for this tomfoolery.

True. But he's likely doing that because that's the only way to get shite happening there.

I mean someone like Sansa could do it (though I doubt it, because frick her...she's far too stEEEOOOpid to pull that off).
This post was edited on 5/5/14 at 10:56 am
Posted by Murtagh
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 10:56 am to
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Also, who will have the best chance to take the Eyrie? Dany with the dragons, right?


I remember Bronn saying something like, he could impregnate the bitch with some men, and climbing spikes. When they first saw the Eyrie when he was with Tyrion. So other people could probably do it.

This was an awesome episode. It is definitely shaping up to be my favorite season. I can't wait for the trial and hopefully we get to see the Dorne Prince's fighting skills soon.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 10:59 am to
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think of all the shite that robin must have thrown out that door in his lifetime. they should do a shot like at the end of LOST (the one that pissed everyone off) that's just the ground at the bottom of the eyrie below the moon door where there are smashed up toys, and gallagher watermelons, and dead rats, and skeletons and stuff.

I was (again) thinking that last night as well. Cuz you know that little sociopath has thrown at least a couple of his friends down there, as well as countless animals and random shite. I was wondering if there was water underneath the moon door, or if there was just a giant pile of shite at the bottom from to much being thrown out.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 11:00 am to
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If we are going to really draw a hard line on book info can we all agree to stop blaming Martin for everything that happens in the show?

It all ultimately falls on him. That's why I said him (and "GRRM" is easier to type out than "GRRM and the HBO makers/creators of the show").
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 11:02 am to
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I don't agree with this. No way Jon would have let his cripple brother head farther north. After everything he knows about the north. No way. If they wanted to continue they could not speak.

He would want him to, sure. But Bran could've explained shite to him to make him understand. And like I said, they could've always just up and left in the middle of the night or whatever. shite, Bran could've warged Jon if he really had to. I think Jon would've understood once Bran explained his visions and that he has the most advanced version of "the sight" ever.
Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 11:02 am to
So why did Locke want to kidnap Bran instead of just kill him there? Did he want to torture him and find out where Rickon is?
Posted by UMRealist
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 11:04 am to
Well you specifically blamed him for the Jon/Bran meet up tease but from my understanding in the middle ground thread both of those story lines deviated quite a bit and didn't happen in the books. You can't blame him for that so it's best to just not bring him up when talking about the show.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 11:04 am to
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He wants it all brand new socks and drawers.

And he's ballin' every time he stops and talks to ya'll.

Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 11:06 am to
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So why did Locke want to kidnap Bran instead of just kill him there? Did he want to torture him and find out where Rickon is?

That was the only reason I could come up with. It was very weird that he cut him loose and was gonna take him. And as far as he knows (from what Ramsay and Theon said), Bran and Rickon were possibly together.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 11:09 am to
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Well you specifically blamed him for the Jon/Bran meet up tease but from my understanding in the middle ground thread both of those story lines deviated quite a bit and didn't happen in the books. You can't blame him for that so it's best to just not bring him up when talking about the show.

Well I'll still blame him because as far as I know, it happened in the books. I don't need to know how the show differs from the books, and this isn't the thread to share that information anyway.

But I've specifically blamed him for this kind of stuff in the past, and I assume it's been stuff straight from the books (as the source material).

To my Hodor-self, GRRM = GoT. I simply mentioned his name, whereas you specifically brought Middle Ground thread info in here.
Posted by TDTGodfather
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 11:13 am to
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It all ultimately falls on him. That's why I said him (and "GRRM" is easier to type out than "GRRM and the HBO makers/creators of the show").

Les Miles has lost control of GOT.
Posted by Mystery
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 11:28 am to
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He would want him to, sure. But Bran could've explained shite to him to make him understand. And like I said, they could've always just up and left in the middle of the night or whatever. shite, Bran could've warged Jon if he really had to. I think Jon would've understood once Bran explained his visions and that he has the most advanced version of "the sight" ever.


Agree to disagree. Sight or not., there is no way I would let my cripple little brother go off to the North with 2 hostile armies that way. Just no way. No matter how much convincing he would do. It is not as easy to get away from Jon and the night's watch as you are making it seem.
Posted by Epic Cajun
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 11:29 am to
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That was the only reason I could come up with. It was very weird that he cut him loose and was gonna take him. And as far as he knows (from what Ramsay and Theon said), Bran and Rickon were possibly together.


Did Bolton specifically tell him to kill them, or did he want them alive? I don't remember exactly what he told Locke to do.
Posted by TigerinATL
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 11:29 am to
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there is no way I would let my cripple little brother go off to the North with 2 hostile armies that way


I think Jon Snow would go if Bran could say "I'm special and can stop the war." But all Bran has to tell him right now is "I'm special and I need to go find a tree and a 3 eyed bird."
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