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re: Game of Thrones S4:E3:"Breaker of Chains", HODORS ONLY (no book readers)

Posted on 4/20/14 at 11:42 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/20/14 at 11:42 pm to
yeah i don't see why stannis would admit they didnt' have any money...and then bring up the bank only to find out the message has nothing to do with stannis not having any money. i think the "we broke" part mattered a lot more than anything else

it is likely going to set up a conflict that may force stannis to take real action against davos
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/20/14 at 11:43 pm to
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Just about everyone in positions such as as his gets themselves killed fairly young,

i think the slice in time that we are observing is quite hectic, even compared to war
Posted by Jet12
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Posted on 4/20/14 at 11:45 pm to
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I don't get the reasoning of bringing up the Targs up to prince Martel. His sister was married to rhaegar who was a Targaryean. So wouldn't he want daenaryus over the lannisters?

Oberyn wasn't a huge fan of Rhaegar either, since Rhaegar left Elia for "another woman" (I'm guessing Lyanna Stark). Plus, the Martells resisted the Targaryens before.
Posted by The_Joker
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Posted on 4/20/14 at 11:45 pm to
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Yeah, but most people blew it off because they couldnt wrap their minds around the five whole feet Olenna had to go to drop the poison in Joffrey's cup.


Because she would have had to go by 2 Kingsguard to do it
This post was edited on 4/20/14 at 11:48 pm
Posted by BOSCEAUX
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Posted on 4/20/14 at 11:49 pm to
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I'm guessing Lyanna Stark


Yea right.... You watched the youtube dvd extras like everybody else so just admit it.
Posted by jiffyjohnson
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Posted on 4/20/14 at 11:49 pm to
In any case he wrote the letter and the iron bank is gonna see some play somewhere down the line. With the armies of westoros pretty much dismantled we just assumed it would be dani coming in to take what's left. Now we could have two armies coming from the east to take it. It almost seems like too much.

And then you remember you've got 100,000 wildlings and an army of zombies.
Posted by BOSCEAUX
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Posted on 4/20/14 at 11:52 pm to
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Now we could have two armies coming from the east to take it


Not really. The Iron Bank will fund the enemies of the people that can't or refuse to pay. Thus they would fund Stannis against the Lannisters if the Lion can't or won't pay his debt. Like we've heard on the show before the Iron Bank gets it's gold one way or the other you pay or they fund your enemies and take it from you.
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Posted on 4/20/14 at 11:55 pm to
Posted by jiffyjohnson
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Posted on 4/20/14 at 11:58 pm to
I'm assuming they'll fund an army led by stannis that's across the narrow sea since that's where bravos is. I dunno where in westoros stannis could raise an army.


Spoilers, but not really.

If you watch the preview that has what's in store for this season, dunno which one it is, you see stannis and Davos going under some giant Greek soldier lookin statue. After this episode I'm assuming that's gotta be Bravos.
[link=(Game of Thrones Season 4: Trailer #3 - Secrets (H…: https://youtu.be/xIASaUUwklk)]LINK[/link]

Here it is. Around the 50 second mark.
This post was edited on 4/21/14 at 12:09 am
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 12:01 am to
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Because she would have had to go by 2 Kingsguard to do it


And yet, she did
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 12:03 am to
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i think the slice in time that we are observing is quite hectic, even compared to war


Given that this is the 3rd time in 20 years that something like this has broken our in Westeros, Id say that it seems to fairly normal
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 12:06 am to
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I don't get the reasoning of bringing up the Targs up to prince Martel. His sister was married to rhaegar who was a Targaryean. So wouldn't he want daenaryus over the lannisters?


Rhaegar Targaryean "dumped" Elia and started the war that ended up killing her when he kidnapped Lyanna Stark.

Ultimately, the Targaryean's insanity was just as big a reason for his sister's death as Tywin was.
Posted by UMRealist
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 12:07 am to
I'm ready to see how they depict this great Iron Bank of Bravos. I honestly thought Dany and Co. were standing outside of it in tonight's episode at first.
Posted by Ryne Sandberg
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 12:09 am to
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Ultimately, the Targaryean's insanity was just as big a reason for his sister's death as Tywin was.

Do we truly know how "insane" the Targaryeans were or could it all have been Lannister propaganda?

BTW, this episode was spectacular. Best of the season imo.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 12:09 am to
Isnt Braavos in the far western part of Essos? Based on the maps of the world Dany and company have spent the whole series far to the east of them.
Posted by BOSCEAUX
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 12:09 am to
Yea Westeros is a clusterfrick. I guess the last peace was under the Dragons until the mad king went apeshit.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 12:12 am to
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Do we truly know how "insane" the Targaryeans were or could it all have been Lannister propaganda?


They've pretty much spent the whole series backing up the "Mad King" claim. He liked to watch people burn alive, one of them drank wildfire thinking it would make him a dragon, etc.

Theyve made it pretty clear they were nuts.
Posted by Jet12
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 12:13 am to
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Do we truly know how "insane" the Targaryeans were or could it all have been Lannister propaganda?

Unless they were making up stuff about how Ned Stark's dad and brother were executed and why Jaime killed the king...it's pretty well documented.

Also, *Targaryen
Posted by jiffyjohnson
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 12:14 am to


It's actually spelled Braavos, and it's at the northern tip of Essos.
Posted by BOSCEAUX
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 12:17 am to
Littlefinger is the closest. He probably never sailed to the Eyrie just went straight to Braavos and cut a sweetheart deal.
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