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re: Game of Thrones S3:E9 "The Rains of Castamere" Book Readers only, SPOILERS
Posted on 5/29/13 at 2:55 pm to USMC Gators
Posted on 5/29/13 at 2:55 pm to USMC Gators
"Seriously though Roose...what's so funny?"
Posted on 5/29/13 at 2:55 pm to ColaTiger
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Why do people keep saying Catelyn is annoying. WTF is wrong with you people?
Come on...she is always ragging on Robb and treating him like a child. Then she is a total bitch to Brienne when she is reincarnated.
Posted on 5/29/13 at 3:04 pm to USMC Gators
"jamie Lannister sends his regards."
Posted on 5/29/13 at 3:06 pm to TK421
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Why do people keep saying Catelyn is annoying. WTF is wrong with you people?
I don't think annoying is the proper term...I'd like to think of Catelyn very judgmental and snobby. She hated Jon and bastards in general, even though one helped her climb/ensured her safety to the Eyrie to see her crazy arse sister. Hell, she even wished Jon dead as an infant...in that sense, and especially after reading Catelyn POV chapters, she's almost no better than Cersei in the sense that they only care about their children.
Hell, even then, Catelyn left little Rickon and Bran in Winterfell to help her oldest raise hell across Westeros and took Tyrion prisoner with little reasoning/just because Littlefinger said it was Tyrion's blade.
This post was edited on 5/29/13 at 3:08 pm
Posted on 5/29/13 at 3:09 pm to ladytiger118
I believe she stayed at Riverrun to see her dad.
Posted on 5/29/13 at 3:09 pm to ladytiger118
I don't hate Cat, but I did often cringe when I got to her chapters. I just didn't like her viewpoint. She's incredibly judgmental (near Cersei levels) and a bitch to alot of people. Her treatment of Jon is pretty inexcusable in my opinion. She's a step above Cersei really, except not nearly as power hungry.
But she still didn't deserve to go that way. I did have some pity for her in the very end.
Littlefinger was always able to depend on his precious little Cat.
But she still didn't deserve to go that way. I did have some pity for her in the very end.
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Hell, even then, Catelyn left little Rickon and Bran in Winterfell to help her oldest raise hell across Westeros and took Tyrion prisoner with little reasoning/just because Littlefinger said it was Tyrion's blade.
Littlefinger was always able to depend on his precious little Cat.
This post was edited on 5/29/13 at 3:10 pm
Posted on 5/29/13 at 3:10 pm to OMLandshark
I like Cersei more than Cat.
Posted on 5/29/13 at 3:11 pm to OMLandshark
The RW improved her character enormously, IMO. The fewer lines the better.
Al Swearingen said it best, "You can't cut the throat of every cocksucker whose character it would improve."
Al Swearingen said it best, "You can't cut the throat of every cocksucker whose character it would improve."
This post was edited on 5/29/13 at 3:14 pm
Posted on 5/29/13 at 3:13 pm to OMLandshark
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I don't hate Cat, but I did often cringe when I got to her chapters. I just didn't like her viewpoint. She's incredibly judgmental (near Cersei levels) and a bitch to alot of people. Her treatment of Jon is pretty inexcusable in my opinion. She's a step above Cersei really, except not nearly as power hungry.
But she still didn't deserve to go that way. I did have some pity for her in the very end.
Pretty much this. She's also pretty much directly responsible for getting Ned killed to a large extent between talking him into taking the position as Hand and kidnapping Tyrion which basically started the war.
Ned was dumb going to Cersei and giving her the heads up, but Cat and Sansa pretty much had him fricked otherwise anyway.
Posted on 5/29/13 at 3:17 pm to NIH
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I like Cersei more than Cat.
I don't like either of them, but Cersei is certainly more interesting.
Posted on 5/29/13 at 3:22 pm to auyushu
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Pretty much this. She's also pretty much directly responsible for getting Ned killed to a large extent between talking him into taking the position as Hand and kidnapping Tyrion which basically started the war. Ned was dumb going to Cersei and giving her the heads up, but Cat and Sansa pretty much had him fricked otherwise anyway.
Bitches be crazy.
And like we've all said, in many ways, Cat is no better than Cersei.
Posted on 5/29/13 at 3:25 pm to OMLandshark
Cat is a bitch pure and simple.
1 - Hated Jon for something he himself had no control over.
2- Left her crippled child and her toddler child to traipse all over creation
3- Kidnapped an innocent Tyrion
4- Let Jamie go thereby dooming the Karstark alliance
5- Did a pretty poor job of raising Sansa
6- Decided to hang Pod and Brienne when she had taken the latter into her service.
1 - Hated Jon for something he himself had no control over.
2- Left her crippled child and her toddler child to traipse all over creation
3- Kidnapped an innocent Tyrion
4- Let Jamie go thereby dooming the Karstark alliance
5- Did a pretty poor job of raising Sansa
6- Decided to hang Pod and Brienne when she had taken the latter into her service.
Posted on 5/29/13 at 3:26 pm to ladytiger118
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Cat is no better than Cersei.
as far as intelligence goes, i would agree
however, Cersei wanted to be in charge, Cat wasnt power-hungry
she was just dumb and self centered
Posted on 5/29/13 at 3:28 pm to Methuselah
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5- Did a pretty poor job of raising Sansa
What in particular did she do wrong here compared to her other children?
Posted on 5/29/13 at 3:31 pm to Methuselah
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6- Decided to hang Pod and Brienne when she had taken the latter into her service.
I thought that she let both of them go after Brienne yelled whatever word she said?
Posted on 5/29/13 at 3:42 pm to NIH
Well then she technically didn't hang them then. 
Posted on 5/29/13 at 3:54 pm to USMC Gators
As a practical matter, I think we can assume that Pod didn't "hang by the neck until dead". But I think Briennne saw him hanging next to her before she said the word IIRC.
We know Brienne survived and I know it's a fairly safe assumption that Pod was still alive (why else would Brienne agree to go to Jamie- I doubt she was worried about her own life enough to do that). If I remember correctly, there was a third person with them who WAS hung and died. It's been awhile since I read it though.
But that whole scene was kind of the finishing touches on any thoughts I had of Cat in a positive or sympathetic light.
We know Brienne survived and I know it's a fairly safe assumption that Pod was still alive (why else would Brienne agree to go to Jamie- I doubt she was worried about her own life enough to do that). If I remember correctly, there was a third person with them who WAS hung and died. It's been awhile since I read it though.
But that whole scene was kind of the finishing touches on any thoughts I had of Cat in a positive or sympathetic light.
Posted on 5/29/13 at 3:57 pm to Methuselah
GRRM confirmed that Pod is still alive. Hyle Hunt? not sure.
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