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Former Buffy / Angel stars speaking out against Joss Whedon

Posted on 2/10/21 at 2:44 pm
Posted by AURaptor
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Posted on 2/10/21 at 2:44 pm
Apparently it started recently with Charisma Carpenter ( Cordellia ) tweeting some less than fond things about Joss.

Now Sarah Michelle Geller and Amber Benson have followed suit.

“While I am proud to have my name associated with Buffy Summers, I don’t want to be forever associated with the name Joss Whedon,” - Sarah Michelle Geller

* Add another to the list. Michelle Tractenberg on board with the 3 other ladies. And she’s upped the ante, with out getting into specifics.

James Marsters ( Spike ) also said Joss ‘ backed him against the wall ‘ , but didn’t seem to go so far as to suggest abuse or actual physical threats were made.

James DID show up again in Angel, and was featured quite prominently

This post was edited on 2/12/21 at 1:42 pm
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 2/10/21 at 2:46 pm to
Joss pulled some premium arse for being a dork
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 2/10/21 at 2:47 pm to
I know the allegations relate to emotional and not physical abuse, but is this Weinstein 2.0?
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Member since May 2007
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Posted on 2/10/21 at 2:49 pm to
But Joss was such a feminist. How could he ever do such things?
Posted by AURaptor
South
Member since Aug 2018
11958 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 2:49 pm to
quote:

Joss pulled some premium arse for being a dork



It's good to be the king.

Until they start talking bad about you.

quote:

Benson wrote on Twitter, "Buffy was a toxic environment and it starts at the top. @AllCharisma is speaking truth and I support her 100%. There was a lot of damage done during that time and many of us are still processing it twenty plus years later. #IStandWithRayFisher #IStandWithCharismaCarpenter."
This post was edited on 2/10/21 at 2:59 pm
Posted by JoeHackett
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 2/10/21 at 3:01 pm to
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Charisma Carpenter


A couple of things.

1. She's apparently 50 years old now!
2. She dumps them out in the opening scene of Bound - about 10 years late but whatever
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
124168 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 3:03 pm to
Seriously? So directors aren’t wonderful drops of sunshine and say mean things? Like pretty much every depiction of a director in film?



And so now that’s enough to cancel them?

For fricks sake.
Posted by drexyl
Mingovia
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Posted on 2/10/21 at 3:09 pm to
Posted by AURaptor
South
Member since Aug 2018
11958 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 3:09 pm to
What's her age NOW have to do with - anything?

Buffy / Angel were 20+ years ago. ( Buffy 1997 - 2003 )

So far, we've got an ex-wife, 3 female actors and more recently Ray Fisher saying really not good things. And unlike the 3 women, Ray's " career " was just about to take off. Not happening now.

I'd like to see PROOF of what Joss was to have allegedly done. Being mean ? Funny as hell, because that's exactly what they accuse Trump of being, yet can't show any real cause.
This post was edited on 2/10/21 at 3:12 pm
Posted by saintsfan22
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Member since May 2006
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Posted on 2/10/21 at 3:11 pm to
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2. She dumps them out in the opening scene of Bound

The opening scene, try the whole freaking movie.
quote:

about 10 years late but whatever


Looked fine to me. But she naked plenty before that though, she did Playboy back when that was a thing.
Posted by AURaptor
South
Member since Aug 2018
11958 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 3:16 pm to


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But she naked plenty before that though,


So C.C. and Alyssa Milano have something in common. They did soft core porn immediately before starring in some TV fantasy series
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
71599 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 3:20 pm to
Milano was before, Charisma's PB spread was right after Angel.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65082 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 3:22 pm to
I love how this dirty laundry is being aired almost two decades after the show ended. I'm not saying what Charisma Carpenter and Sarah Michelle Gellar are alleging is untrue. But if you want this kind of verbal/physical abuse to come to an end, you need to report it as soon as it happens. I have no doubt this crap still goes on in Hollywood. The only way to fight it is to speak up about it within living memory.
Posted by indianswim
Plano, TX
Member since Jan 2010
18780 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 3:25 pm to
#believeallwomen

Let's see how this one plays out.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
71599 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 3:28 pm to
quote:

But if you want this kind of verbal/physical abuse to come to an end, you need to report it as soon as it happens. I have no doubt this crap still goes on in Hollywood. The only way to fight it is to speak up about it within living memory.


Ray Fisher was pretty upfront about it and everyone here calls him an idiot for it and he's pretty much fired from the future movies.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 2/10/21 at 3:30 pm to
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is speaking truth


I almost immediately ignore someone if they use this phrase.
Posted by AURaptor
South
Member since Aug 2018
11958 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 3:41 pm to

Yeah, but Bound came out in '96, and Buffy started in '97.

That was my point.
Posted by JoeHackett
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 2/10/21 at 3:45 pm to
quote:

The opening scene, try the whole freaking movie.



I'll have to take your word on it. That has to be one of the worst movies ever made.

quote:

Looked fine to me.


She's still fine. I just meant for me personally. She was the only reason I watched Angel, I had such a huge crush on her back then.
Posted by jatilen
Member since May 2020
13608 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 3:47 pm to
Translation: He was mean to me over 20 years ago. I'm sure he was a dick but if being a dick was a crime, 99% of the people in Hollywood would be in prison.

It's telling that Geller did the 2021 version of "no comment" ("I stand with all survivors of abuse and am proud of them for speaking out") because she was afraid of the SJW mob.

Michelle Trachtenberg has now accused him of even more vague behavior ("With his not appropriate behavior....very. Not. Appropriate."). Apparently now you don't even need to specify what the person allegedly did. I guess it's a natural outcome of four years of OMB..."He's bad, lock him up"
This post was edited on 2/10/21 at 3:48 pm
Posted by JoeHackett
Member since Aug 2016
4315 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 3:47 pm to
quote:

What's her age NOW have to do with - anything?



It just makes me feel old. In my mind she's still ~32.
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