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re: F4 reboot-Internet Famous thread.UPDATE-8/11 Kinberg:"No crossover,tricky IP"

Posted on 5/12/15 at 10:31 pm to
Posted by LeonPhelps
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Posted on 5/12/15 at 10:31 pm to
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Remember that time the OT solved that murder?


Does anyone have the link to this thread? How did the OT solve a murder?!
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 5/12/15 at 10:33 pm to
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? As the Plains Burn?


Might want to rethink including that one.
Posted by blueboy
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Posted on 5/12/15 at 10:46 pm to
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As the Plains Burn?
And yet, the Plains remain unburned.

And I'm not sure we solved the murder. It was pretty freaky that someone remembered Adam4LSU's thread and bumped it, but I think the wheels were already in motion on that one.

So did stegs achieve the rare account deletion? Clicking on his profile gets the classic stop sign page.
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Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
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Posted on 5/13/15 at 12:19 am to



LINK

Summary: A girl named Mickey Shunick was kidnapped and murdered. For a while they didn't have any leads but it was a big deal here. A poster came on here and said that his sister or cousin (the original thread is deleted) was about to get married to this creep who he thought might have had something to do with it. And he DID! It was the craziest sh*t
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Posted by RonBurgundy
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Posted on 5/25/15 at 5:01 pm to
So apparently Josh Trank got on 4chan and had himself a little meltdown. Some Reddit guys quoted the texts, some of the stuff has been removed. He shits on Fox, Disney, Matthew Vaughn, Kinebrg(producer/writer), complains about deadlines,studio meddling, etc.


reddit link
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 5/25/15 at 5:58 pm to
for those that think reading reddit is a major pain in the arse

(this might also just be highlights that somebody saved b/c the original post is gone)
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Seriously, admit you fricked up and stop being a ****. Seriously, you want to keep working I. Hollywood? Admit you created a streaming pile of shite and apologize for raping the Fantastic Four and take your justified criticism like a man and not a worthless pot smoking loser who can't even make his dogs not shite in the house

Apologize? frick you.

reverse image search this might actually be real How does it feel to be despised not just by an anonymous comic fanbase, but the entire movie and comicbook industries because of your arrogant incompetence.

Hated? I have fricking Fox begging me to sign on for another two Fantastic Four movies, another Chronicle, and WB offering a 4 year first look. Don't believe what you read online and just because something isn't accurate to a book doesn't mean it's not an interesting story. When I talked to Stan and Mark about the FF take they loved it, Simon loved it. The only thing stopping it is fricks like the CG guy and other haters and conspirators trying to tank this just to get some stupid fictional characters back.

Trank on being told his vision for the FF was bad:

You're right it's my vision, lets be 100% honest here, it is my vision Fox hired me to do my vision and to make sure they get a quality film and they're getting both; since day one people have created rumors and lies about me and my film going from found footage to me tearing up that house. Was I distant? Yeah. I was, if you were on the set of a huge film with Mathew Vaughn and half of Fox breathing down your neck to deliver a film on a specific date and to rush through everything you'd do everything possible. Yeah, I wanted to extend the boundries; FX supervisor got OTOY to do some good quality work which looked great in the dailies but not what I wanted. Look okay, here's what I'm trying to say if you want your fantastic four, if you want the real first family, if you want Doom ruler of Latveria, if you want Frank and Val Richards if you want the power cosmic or even the bombastic bagman then yeah my story isn't for you but at the end of the day they still exist in your heart and in your mind and in the pages of marvel comics I was hired to write and direct a film and to make it what I thought would be a new way to do it and so I decided instead of playing it safe to go all out to go scifi space and body horror because thats been done so few times. You can tell any story with these characters and some are light hearted and some are dark but honestly since issue one when they fought the mole man Reed Richards and Co were afraid of being freaks afraid of what to do in life and completely unsure of how to deal with it and I loved that aspect the people who have powers but are completely afraid; these are early days for the four they're not even the four yet and they never call themselves that but they for sure are the first family just a different one; this is Earth-Fox not Earth-616.

Trank on reports of Mathew Vaughn being onset:

He's not but as a producer, you have guys breathing down your neck to make it. Once you reach that level you stop noticing what it takes to make a film unless it's yours. Like I saw him do Kingsman and he was super chill and it was completely different because every night every wrap it was "How much did you get are you behind Why aren't you doing this" and honestly I swear if this shite ends up anywhere I'm gonna kill you people but I'm high enough to not give a frick. Vaughn is great when he's not your boss and Simon, well, Simon is a dick that just wants to hold onto "his" characters no matter what like this movie comes out he gets an extension for another two year automatically same with X-men, those aren't vaughns characters or Bryan's they're like in his mind they're his characters and even then when he wrote the first draft of the script it was like it was the first FF film all over it was all grounded and the only thing there was the teleporter then I wanted to do something cosmic or at least a bit different but no its just weird to deal with someone who thinks he owns these characters and who wants to keep them to himself honestly when I did my draft I removed that x-men I told him I wanted the Four to be on their own because honestly it's almost like telling him these aren't yours these are whoever creates this story and so there's the Chronicle crystals and Annihilus. Whoever does this after another four years will put their spin on it might be classic might be more extreme. I don't want to hate you guys but from day one Ive tried to tell simon and fox that they wanted my version they get and they aren't characters they own they're names they bought and that there's an infinite universe out there for these guys Reed practically discovered it; who knows he might even meet old Reed in something. Now I'm taking an xan and going to rush out. But seriously it just seems like all these fricking just want to take shite away and bash this and frick me.

Hey Trank, did you write the As for Johnny being the voice of reason he's Trank's friend and so has the best dialogue; and because he's black so he's already faced the discrimination that the others will now face going forward (actual explanation as to why he's much calmer about his disability than the others.) part of the script?”

That was written before; Johnny was always the voice from Simon on down because he was always supposed to be younger and appeal to the younger audience, I still feel Ben was the heart but they tried it once and it didn't work the racial part was added after Michael joined. Michael is/was my friend and honestly I wanted him to do a cameo as Philip Stross and basically make this fantastic four a big space adventure but also lovecraftian horror, think Batman Returns meets Buck Rodgers meets Roger Corman; however Simon decided Michael would be Johnny

If this is Trank, can we ask some serious questions? Trolling aside, Did you cause damage to the house they rented for you? Did you ever show up to meetings/the set while on drugs? Did you piss off the entire crew? Are you sad that you won't get to tell your star wars story?

I caused some damage, my dogs didn't do that much they tore up some carpet, but I'm not leaving my pets away from home while I'm Baton filming a movie. I drew on the on the walls the actually damage I don't want discuss but a new director on a big set there's a lot of issues and hazing

I never did coke i have a perscription for Alprazolam and luvox and honestly I started really dosing myself with the Alprazolam things were changing everyday are we x-universe are we not why am I not allowed to have it lit this way what do you mean this was too scary etc

if i pissed them off it was only because i had to do a hundred things in a row to get it right enough everyone to seem happy

I am but at the same time I feel like with my ideas about star wars as great as it’d be there's only one star wars for me and thats the original trilogy anything else while yeah it takes place in that universe its more or less just speculation I imagined it being a cool bounty hunter heist moving involving the Black Sun and focusing on some other minor characters because growing up when I was after the originals the only thing left was Shadows of the Empire and that left an impression on me that there was someone as cool as Han Solo who was "a good guy" like Dash Randar and wanted to like a big bounty hunt on Xizor's head with Dash and the Outrider after the fall of the Empire


This post was edited on 5/25/15 at 6:08 pm
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 5/25/15 at 5:58 pm to
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The flu That's a bullshite excuse since you would eventually get better. Proof that your drug addiction has destroyed your career and reputation. When are you going to kill yourself Joshy Boy?

-- honestly with alprazolam when you're dealing with this stuff and mind you i said i was taking a lot of it coming off is the worst and trying to just get straightened out the minute everything wrapped it was weird because i couldnt just drop dossages the flu is that

what is your current favorite film, trank?

--not really current but ive been watching city of ember it was on tv one night and i enjoy the city of lost children vibe i got from it one of my favorites ive heard good things about mad max but i havent had much energy to go out and see it

Josh, who is your favorite director of all time? How do you feel about Zack Snyder as well?

favourite director will always be cronenbeg if it wasnt for staying up late and watching videodrome one night on HBO i never would have imagined getting into film and Spielberg honestly Zak is good when he has an outline to work with and he has great ideas I know he's more experienced than me but something about man of steel just got to me i liked suckerpunch for the visual and i think watchmen was as close as youll ever get and 300 was frank come to life and cant forget Dawn of the Dead which was great well with man of steel though i dont know it just felt depressing if theres something you shouldnt do its make a depressing superman movie even the colors were depressing it was an interesting take but i dont want to leave a superman film feeling depressed theres enough depressing movies out there you can change all you want about the character but the one thing you should change is tone of the stories and superman just hes a man powered by the sun seeing him you should be like completely you should almost feel walking out of the theater like you just spend the best day in the middle of july you should feel radiated

So what was the SW film you were going to work on?

like i said I really wanted to do a continuation of the shadows of the empire set up in the immediate aftermath with Xizor escaping the skyhook and putting a bounty on Dash's head with dash breaking out another bounty hunter to help him fend off IG88 and bring Xizor to the hutts

That sounds pretty cool, why did Disney reject that idea?

they didn't reject my idea they rejected me its more complicated than that but its basically that theres been a lot of mudslinging going back and forth some from disney some from fox still pissed they dont get star wars money

and me not knowing that an extra two alprazolam a day would mess me up when going to a regular dosage so withdraw induced flu and basically being told that both sides were the enemy one because they have their characters and the other because they have their original franchise it was just a huge headache to go from one saying dont mess this up or say anything to another dont mess this up or say anything dont trust them or him

So what you're saying is that I should give up my dreams of being a director and work at McDonald's. Because at the end of the day I'm still getting fricked, but I get to keep my job?

never ever give up your dream man like just because working for studios is basically like choosing to work for one demon over another dont let go of that dream if you have a story to tell write it if you have a shot in your head film it grab a dv cam and a fire wire and get the pick ups you see in your minds eye tell your story to everyone you know who will listen just because things go bad for one guy doesn't mean it goes bad for everyone if you have a movie in your brain shoot it even if its just a string of shots build around it dont give up because you read about the bad things go out there and make your dream because honestly making a movie is making your dream never give up

What are your thoughts on what's coming out for DC movies?

I remember a while ago a long time ago DC had a poster insert for one of the crisises and it said "heroes die legends live forever" and that's how DC should be making their movies DC has always been the modern version of the greek myths their heroes are more epic for lack of a better word the thing theyre doing with the darkness and bleach bypass it worked well for a batman movie but each hero is so vastly different there Batman V Superman should be Worlds Finest theres obviously going to be a fight but still it also seems like they focusing too much on earth DC has always had such a huge celestial playground you could make movies from some of these characters and no one would even know its a hero movie without seeing DC logo. You can have your ultimate hero saves the world with Superman your dark knight avenger with Batman your swashbuckling adventure with Aquaman your female empowerment and modern Hercules with WW your classic 40s pop-sci pulp adventure with Adam Strange your war movie with Sgt Rock your goofy and bizzarre punk fueled legion '91 your mystical with the Dark, or Costantine, or Phantom Stranger.. you have a whole color palette of movies to choose from movies that wouldn't be a cape in any sense of the word but would a fun ride to be on but instead it seems to the same marvel has heroes DC has legends they're basically the same but Marvel is every man heroes mostly and DC is god among men and everything in between. Could you imagine the horror you could with an Aparo inspired Spectre same goes for Marvel too I'd love to do a JM inspired Man-Thing movie.

Correct me if im wrong. Fox only wanted to make this movie to keep the rights right? Thats why they did their best to rush this movie out before the time ran out and the rights went back to Marvel/disney. Of coarse they wont out right say this , but this is why this movie even exists

That's essentially correct, but what's spending a few million dollars to make something people will forget in a few years compared to never being able to get the property back? At the end of the day that's how Fox sees it. Miller sees it as a way to have a job he's always wanted and Kinsberg is creepily obsessed with maintaining his comic toybox

We aren't getting a Deadpool movie because FOX believes in it we're getting a deadpool movie because it counts as an x-men film and the rights extend that much longer if the movies are good that's good but if the movies are bad they don't care they losing a few hundred million on something that is priceless. I just assumed why not just go weird then they're either going to make a boring movie that we have seen already or I could do something different and well as you can see different doesnt end well.

This post was edited on 5/25/15 at 6:32 pm
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 5/25/15 at 6:24 pm to
This is why twitter is the only place celebrities post shite under their own identities. Every agent should tell his clients to stay the hell away from message boards - posting as themselves. You get dragged down to their crude level and some of the more clever posters can really humiliate you. And of course, if you say too much, it WILL come back to bite you.
Posted by Murray
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 5/25/15 at 6:39 pm to
Interesting.

First things first. This dudes a complete mess and for some reason I kinda hope he gets some help and salvages his career. I don't why. That's just my feeling.

I do agree with his take on Snyder, MOS being depressing and WB handling their DC properties incorrectly. On film. They've nailed it on tv for the most part. :olicityblows:

Even though we all already knew it, it still angers me to see him confirm that Fox will put out pure shite just to keep their hands on the film rights. I guess I'm a little hypocritical though as I'm happy to see the Deadpool film finally happening.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 5/25/15 at 7:40 pm to
If Marvel had the rights to the X-Men, we wouldn't be getting a Deadpool movie. The silver lining to other studios having the film rights to Marvel properties is that we're getting way more movies than we would have gotten otherwise.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Posted on 5/25/15 at 7:41 pm to
This dude is a headcase. I'm glad he's not involved with Star Wars anymore.
Posted by Murray
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Posted on 5/25/15 at 8:13 pm to
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If Marvel had the rights to the X-Men, we wouldn't be getting a Deadpool movie. The silver lining to other studios having the film rights to Marvel properties is that we're getting way more movies than we would have gotten otherwise.


I guess I should be more specific. I'm pissed that Fox won't let the FF go because I'm almost certain Marvel do a much better job with the characters.

I didn't love Xmen through X3 but I have enjoyed First Class, DOFP, The Wolverine and am looking forward to Apocalypse.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Posted on 5/25/15 at 8:28 pm to
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I didn't love Xmen through X3


I really liked X2, the other 2 were mediocre.

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I have enjoyed First Class, DOFP, The Wolverine and am looking forward to Apocalypse.



Same here, I thought the Xmen was a dying franchise so I have to give them their due for reviving it. I love First Class, I prefer it to any Marvel film aside from maybe Cap2.
Posted by saintsfan22
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Posted on 5/25/15 at 8:44 pm to
That doesn't seem like much of a meltdown
Posted by RonBurgundy
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Posted on 5/25/15 at 9:14 pm to
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That doesn't seem like much of a meltdown





I guess we have different opinions on what a meltdown is...he's pretty much condemning an entire studio and everyone he's worked with for the last year and half...some of those guys are big players in that.
Posted by RonBurgundy
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Posted on 5/25/15 at 9:16 pm to
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If Marvel had the rights to the X-Men, we wouldn't be getting a Deadpool movie. The silver lining to other studios having the film rights to Marvel properties is that we're getting way more movies than we would have gotten otherwise.



Deadpool is one of their most recongnizable characters nowadays, so he'd been in an expanded MCU.

but more importantly, the F4 @ Marvel Studios is a Disney wet dream. They would be getting first class treatment instead of vision of a guy who was admittedly high all the time on set.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 5/25/15 at 10:49 pm to
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Deadpool is one of their most recongnizable characters nowadays, so he'd been in an expanded MCU.


If Marvel had their top tier characters (Spider-Man, X-Men, Fantastic Four) they'd be concentrating on them, and then the Avengers. Deadpool wouldn't be on their third tier list.

There are only so many movies that Marvel can put out each year. Their having Fantastic Four, X-Men, and Spider-Man would push the lesser heroes way past the back of the line.

Posted by RonBurgundy
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Posted on 5/26/15 at 2:59 am to
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r) they'd be concentrating on them, and then the Avengers. Deadpool wouldn't be on their third tier list.




I think you underestimate The Avengers....they've always been popular.
Posted by illuminatic
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Posted on 5/26/15 at 9:24 am to
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This dude is a headcase. I'm glad he's not involved with Star Wars anymore.


But he was also spot on with a lot of stuff. I had a negative/neutral view of him before but after reading that, I kind of like the guy. He has some really good ideas.
Posted by RonBurgundy
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Posted on 5/26/15 at 11:03 am to
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But he was also spot on with a lot of stuff. I had a negative/neutral view of him before but after reading that, I kind of like the guy. He has some really good ideas.



just not any of them related to the F4.
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