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re: Dune - first full review I’ve seen

Posted on 9/13/21 at 3:42 pm to
Posted by teke184
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Posted on 9/13/21 at 3:42 pm to
The books also pointed out the flaws in being the savior.

Muadib could see the future but couldn’t shape it. He may not have wanted Fremen doing interstellar jihads in his name but he got it anyway.
Posted by boxcarbarney
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Posted on 9/13/21 at 11:05 pm to
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He may not have wanted Fremen doing interstellar jihads in his name but he got it anyway


I think the jihad would have happened with or without Paul. The Fremen finally having their Lisan al Gaib may have accelerated the timeline somewhat though.

The Jihad was inevitable. I do believe Paul had some control over what happened after the Jihad, but was unable to bring himself to do it. Which is why Leto II had to step in
Posted by YeauxGurt
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Posted on 9/14/21 at 9:17 am to
I thought liberals loved being the white savior?
Posted by ScottFowler
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Posted on 9/14/21 at 10:32 am to
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Paul had some control over what happened after the Jihad, but was unable to bring himself to do it. Which is why Leto II had to step in


The Golden Path
Posted by Mahootney
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Posted on 9/14/21 at 12:23 pm to
I'll stick with my 1984 version.
Still a decent story, but without all the woke BS.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 9/14/21 at 1:19 pm to
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the colonization of the Fremen’s land and the oppression they’ve experienced at the hands of rapacious outsiders, and then turns to a white savior whose greatness is entirely synthetic, engineered via planted prophecies and genetic manipulation.

Once again, that’s what Frank Herbert was going for.




It seems they are taking some of the context of the overall series to help round out the tone of this book 1 storyline, which I think is a smart and interesting way to go
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 9/14/21 at 3:10 pm to
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Chani talking in voiceover about the colonization of the Fremen’s land and the oppression they’ve experienced at the hands of rapacious outsiders, and then turns to a white savior


in case anyone was wondering if the reviewer at least wasn't woke
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