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Dr.Strange not in WandaVision b/c Feige didn't want "white guy" showing how "power worked"

Posted on 5/3/21 at 10:06 pm
Posted by Cs
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Posted on 5/3/21 at 10:06 pm
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The story of WandaVision‘s main character, Wanda Maximoff, a.k.a. the Scarlet Witch (played by Elizabeth Olsen), is set to continue in 2022’s Dr. Strange and the Multiverse of Madness, but the two projects were almost linked much more directly. As Marvel Studios president Kevin Feige reveals in Rolling Stone‘s upcoming, extensive oral history of WandaVision, Marvel struck a deal with Benedict Cumberbatch to appear in the final episode of the show as Dr. Strange. But late in the process, they wrote him out.


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“Some people might say, ‘Oh, it would’ve been so cool to see Dr. Strange,’” says Feige. “But it would have taken away from Wanda, which is what we didn’t want to do. We didn’t want the end of the show to be commoditized to go to the next movie — here’s the white guy, ‘Let me show you how power works.’”


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That meant the Dr. Strange movie, too, had to be rewritten. In the end, Feige says, Marvel’s process is “a wonderful combination of very dedicated coordination, and chaos. Chaos magic.” At one point, back when Dr. Strange was supposed to be part of the story, the in-universe commercials were going to be messages from Strange to Wanda, and there was also talk of having Cumberbatch appear in one of the ads, head writer Jac Schaeffer says.


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Posted by TruBrew
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Member since Sep 2019
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Posted on 5/3/21 at 10:11 pm to
Man shut up.
Posted by blueboy
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Posted on 5/3/21 at 10:14 pm to
This has long since gotten old. Holy shite.
Posted by Navtiger1
Washington
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 5/3/21 at 10:18 pm to
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. We didn’t want the end of the show to be commoditized to go to the next movie — here’s the white guy, ‘Let me show you how power works.’”


Why come out and say this? This is the problem with Hollywood, they have to SHOW they're Woke. Just don't have him in it and don't say anything about it. Nobody knew about this and no one cared. But you have to shout your woke BS from the roof top. Now you just look woke and stupid and make me fear for the future of Marvel projects!
Posted by Bottom9
Arsenal Til I Die
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 5/3/21 at 10:23 pm to
Feige shut the frick up and just cast Krasinski as Mr. Fantastic and Efron as Johnny Storm you twerp
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 5/3/21 at 10:26 pm to
fricking whackos unhinged on identity politics.
Posted by Frac the world
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Posted on 5/3/21 at 10:26 pm to
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Posted on 5/3/21 at 10:29 pm to
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Why come out and say this?


Exactly. Pathetic, Feige
Posted by Cs
Member since Aug 2008
10468 posts
Posted on 5/3/21 at 10:32 pm to
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Now you just look woke and stupid and make me fear for the future of Marvel projects!


This shouldn't be surprising, because everyone knew this was happening based on many of the projects that have already been green-lit.

But now you have absolute confirmation. The entire creative process at Marvel Studios is now being actively sabotaged by their obsessive adherence to race and gender politics. They literally tossed their entire creative direction for WandaVision and the next Dr. Strange movie because they didn't want to appear to give the white man too much power.

This post was edited on 5/3/21 at 10:33 pm
Posted by Bottom9
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Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 5/3/21 at 10:34 pm to
Feige Behind the Scenes: "Benedict we will offer you $1 million to make a 5 minute cameo on the show."

Benedict Cumberbatch: "Make it $20 million."

Feige to Media: "We didn't want a white male to be the savior and mansplain magic!! We love women. #Hers"
This post was edited on 5/4/21 at 7:09 am
Posted by LSU6262
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 5/3/21 at 10:38 pm to
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Why come out and say this?


Agree. He could have just said they didn't want Dr Strange to take away from Wanda and left it at that

No reason to bring up the white guy and be all woke.
Posted by PowerTool
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Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 5/3/21 at 10:49 pm to
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Agree. He could have just said they didn't want Dr Strange to take away from Wanda and left it at that


This. He could also say - what I imagine the executives actually decided - they wanted the streaming series to be stand-alone and not required tie-ins to the movies.

They're really trying to expand the female audience, so it makes perfect sense that they decided to leave Wanda on her own. But STFU up about "white guy." I'm sick of reading about "old white males" in so many fricking comments and even "serious news" columns.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 5/3/21 at 11:07 pm to
Is anyone surprised by this? Sure the real reason might be something normal, but how often can we hear this stuff before a lot of it actually turns out true? I know studios are very deliberate in showing their commitment to identity politics.

I'm curious how long they'll do this.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6495 posts
Posted on 5/3/21 at 11:14 pm to
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Is anyone surprised by this? Sure the real reason might be something normal, but how often can we hear this stuff before a lot of it actually turns out true? I know studios are very deliberate in showing their commitment to identity politics.

I'm curious how long they'll do this.


theyll do it until it starts affecting viewership and earnings. the thing is well all probably watch the next thing despite wokeness. has marvel gotten too big to fail?
Posted by hth52
Member since Jun 2016
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Posted on 5/3/21 at 11:15 pm to
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Efron as Johnny Storm


As long as whatever he did to his face isnt permanent.
Posted by PowerTool
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Member since Dec 2009
21145 posts
Posted on 5/3/21 at 11:38 pm to
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has marvel gotten too big to fail?


It's gotten big enough to pluck obscure side characters out of the pages of comic books past and give first time directors a huge audience. Who knows if there is a bubble.

May be showing my ignorance here, but I think it's kind of unprecedented to successfully adapt such a large character universe through multiple mediums and platforms.
Posted by Navtiger1
Washington
Member since Aug 2007
3368 posts
Posted on 5/3/21 at 11:51 pm to
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has marvel gotten too big to fail?


No they can certainly still fail. It may not be catastrophic, but they can wilt and die. Right now the machine is rolling along mostly because they continue to put out decent watchable popcorn flicks. If they go full woke and start writing nonsense just to prove their wokeness. People will stop watching.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
70864 posts
Posted on 5/3/21 at 11:58 pm to
But by giving that quote, isn't Feige doing white mansplaining?
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
15294 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 12:11 am to
Marvel is going to end up shooting themselves in the foot if they're not careful.

Tbh I think they made the right decision to not include Strange, even though I was waiting for his cameo the whole time. WV was a great standalone show. There were a million mephisto theories, and I didn't think there would be any true resolution to the movie. Both of those ended up not being true.

In any case, there didn't need to be any explanation for this. Most fans were pretty content with Wanda having her own story where she didn't need other Avengers to come in and save her.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80097 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 1:37 am to
Reading between the lines, he's creating a "firebreak" to keep the screeching mob of transgendered Karens at bay.
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