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Posted on 8/15/24 at 2:34 pm to td01241
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Off the top of my head basically anything blumhouse produces. 5 nights at Freddie’s was their most recent I think. Budget of 25 million and it ended up grossing over like 650 million dollars.
Grossed 291 million but that's still a huge profit. Now it's streaming on prime and the profit has dried up.
The reason studios keep throwing money at blockbusters is because all the money is in the theater run
Posted on 8/15/24 at 2:35 pm to Dairy Sanders
You want proof Tubi just passed Disney plus in watch time? And of course it’s free. The whole point of the end of my post is that free entertainment like YouTube and Tubi is a never before huge challenge to hollywood
Posted on 8/15/24 at 2:36 pm to td01241
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5 nights at Freddie’s was their most recent I think. Budget of 25 million and it ended up grossing over like 650 million dollars.
297.2 million.
Pretty good return thought for their budget
Posted on 8/15/24 at 2:37 pm to SammyTiger
Yeah it was their most expensive movie ever and it paid off
Posted on 8/15/24 at 2:38 pm to Corinthians420
Apologies I must’ve been thinking of another films gross. But I agree if they’re not licensing it the theatre run is most important. So what is a better option? Films like Indy,5 or the the marvels with budgets over 300 million and are two of the biggest flips in history or a low budget horror flick like saw or something costing somewhere between 25-50 mil and gaurenteed to at least not flop with massive upside for huge gains?
This post was edited on 8/15/24 at 2:39 pm
Posted on 8/15/24 at 2:39 pm to td01241
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Since they stupidly killed the dvd market
they didn’t.
we the consumer did.
Posted on 8/15/24 at 2:39 pm to SammyTiger
Sammy why are you so stupid? Streaming killed the dvd market for all but niche collectors. Anything saying otherwise is ridiculous.
Posted on 8/15/24 at 2:43 pm to td01241
Also as an addendum to my point the last two pages. Guess what two of the most profitable movies ever were? Blair witch project and paranormal activity. Low budget horror films.
Posted on 8/15/24 at 2:44 pm to td01241
Yes, we the consumer chose streaming over DVD.
DVDs are still offered
we stopped buying them.
mostly because we had so many other options on streaming services.
I haven't bought a dvd in a decade. They are still sold though. you can go get them.
DVDs are still offered
we stopped buying them.
mostly because we had so many other options on streaming services.
I haven't bought a dvd in a decade. They are still sold though. you can go get them.
This post was edited on 8/15/24 at 2:46 pm
Posted on 8/15/24 at 2:45 pm to td01241
quote:Most 25-50mm budget films don’t gross 300mm. I think It’s likely that most struggle to break even. The reason Hollywood plays the big budget game is that one mega hit can make up for quite a few big budget mega flops. I personally am not a fan of that strategy due to the quality of the movies, or lack thereof.
So what is a better option? Films like Indy,5 or the the marvels with budgets over 300 million and are two of the biggest flips in history or a low budget horror flick like saw or something costing somewhere between 25-50 mil and gaurenteed to at least not flop with massive upside for huge gains?
Posted on 8/15/24 at 2:49 pm to SammyTiger
That’s like saying we the consumer killed walkman music players. Choosing a better and more accessible option is not the consumer killing something. Streaming has been an unmitigated distaster for everyone whose went for it which seems like there’s over 100 of them. Netflix, Hulu (nothing to do with Disney per usual they just buy she cuz they can’t create anything worth a shite), maybe prime, and recently things like Tubi are only ones that haven’t lost billions and billions and more factoring in opportunity cost of losing license money. And of those Netflix is really the only one truly extremely successful.
Posted on 8/15/24 at 2:50 pm to drizztiger
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Most 25-50mm budget films don’t gross 300mm. I think It’s likely that most struggle to break even. The reason Hollywood plays the big budget game is that one mega hit can make up for quite a few big budget mega flops. I personally am not a fan of that strategy due to the quality of the movies, or lack thereof.
Yeah, I hate it but understand why they choose to do it economically. Inside out 2 cost them 200 million to make and brought in 1.6 billion and is spawning a spinoff series
Posted on 8/15/24 at 2:50 pm to drizztiger
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Most 25-50 million struggle to break even
Maybe rom coms and things like that. It’s extremely rare though for horror films. History is also littered with those types of movies exploding into unfathomable success
Posted on 8/15/24 at 2:53 pm to Corinthians420
Disney gets 50% of that money at most since international is less than domestic. Let’s say they spent 100mil marketing total all in 300 mil and be generous with a 50% return of 800 mil. Extremely nice haul. 500 mil in profit. All wiped out and even into the red with their failures of that same movie archetype for years strange world, wish, light year, etc etc
This post was edited on 8/15/24 at 2:55 pm
Posted on 8/15/24 at 2:55 pm to td01241
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Maybe rom coms and things like that. It’s extremely rare though for horror films. History is also littered with those types of movies exploding into unfathomable success
I mean Trap is in theaters right now, 40 mil budget, brought in 47 million and it's run it pretty much over. It probably made a small profit with marketing costs but I doubt major studios see that sort of thing as worth their time/effort for a few million bucks when they could put those resources towards making another big budget film.
Posted on 8/15/24 at 2:56 pm to Corinthians420
I didn’t say it’s never happened. I said it’s rare for it to happen for those low budget horror films to not at least break even and have a much higher % chance of exploding beyond their budget to huge success and major returns
Posted on 8/15/24 at 2:57 pm to td01241
quote:I doubt Hollywood is going to shift to exclusively making low budget horror films, but I wouldn’t put anything past some pencil pushing Hollywood exec.
extremely rare though for horror films. History is also littered with those types of movies exploding into unfathomable success
Posted on 8/15/24 at 2:58 pm to td01241
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Let’s say they spent 100mil marketing total all in 300 mil
But guess where that 100 million in marketing went? To Disney companies
They pay themselves (ESPN, ABC, etc) to advertise it.
Posted on 8/15/24 at 3:00 pm to td01241
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Hollywood faced a period of absolute total collapse in money made as the past 5 ish years have been.
That’s not even close to happening y’all do love being hyperbolic
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DEI films and girl boss
Also more buzzwords
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See furioisa
Bad marketing as well with it tough competition didn’t give it much hope also spin offs normal don’t do nearly as well as the originals.
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Plus they face never before challenges like the 18-25 demographic gets their entertainment the most from YouTube, a free service.
This is a legitimate concern for theaters but it encompasses all streaming services add onto that movies usually have shorter runs in theaters as well
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