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Did Disney steal Moana? Suit filed by animator.
Posted on 1/13/25 at 1:49 pm
Posted on 1/13/25 at 1:49 pm
Disney being sued for billions over Moana claims
Animator Buck Woodall claims Disney's hit animation copied ideas from his own work which "could not possibly have been developed by chance or without malicious intentions". Ron Clements, the director of Moana, reportedly says the film was not "in any way" inspired by Woodall's work.
It points to similarities between the plot points of Moana, released in 2016, and Bucky "which could not possibly have been accidental", including how both are about a teenager who defies parental warnings and embarks on a dangerous voyage across Polynesian waters to save the endangered land of a Polynesian island.
It claims other similarities include how both plots celebrate a recurring theme of the Polynesian belief in spiritual ancestors manifested as animals, and how both include the protagonist's journey starting with a turtle, a plot involving a symbolic necklace, a main character who encounters a demigod adorned with a giant hook and tattoos and a giant creature that's concealed within a mountain.
Sky News
Unfortunately, despite the evidence, Disney will likely win. Probably outright, with no 'settlement'.
* Changed Subject due to conflicting stories on the actual amount of lawsuit.
Animator Buck Woodall claims Disney's hit animation copied ideas from his own work which "could not possibly have been developed by chance or without malicious intentions". Ron Clements, the director of Moana, reportedly says the film was not "in any way" inspired by Woodall's work.
It points to similarities between the plot points of Moana, released in 2016, and Bucky "which could not possibly have been accidental", including how both are about a teenager who defies parental warnings and embarks on a dangerous voyage across Polynesian waters to save the endangered land of a Polynesian island.
It claims other similarities include how both plots celebrate a recurring theme of the Polynesian belief in spiritual ancestors manifested as animals, and how both include the protagonist's journey starting with a turtle, a plot involving a symbolic necklace, a main character who encounters a demigod adorned with a giant hook and tattoos and a giant creature that's concealed within a mountain.
Sky News
Unfortunately, despite the evidence, Disney will likely win. Probably outright, with no 'settlement'.
* Changed Subject due to conflicting stories on the actual amount of lawsuit.
This post was edited on 1/13/25 at 9:50 pm
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Posted on 1/13/25 at 1:52 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
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Unfortunately, despite the evidence, Disney will likely win
Which set of evidence?
From your link:
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Disney also submitted documents regarding the origin and development of Moana, including story ideas and pitch materials
Posted on 1/13/25 at 1:56 pm to Green Chili Tiger
Yeah, evidence after the fact.
The case has been filed. If he's trying to shake down Disney, and doesn't have the receipts, bad news for him. But even so, it's unlikely he'll win.
Posted on 1/13/25 at 1:58 pm to Green Chili Tiger
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Which set of evidence?
His mind was made up at Disney.
Posted on 1/13/25 at 1:59 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
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His mind was made up at Disney.
I didn't file the case, pinhead.
Posted on 1/13/25 at 2:00 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
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Yeah, evidence after the fact.
The case has been filed
Should they have submitted that evidence before the case was filed?
Posted on 1/13/25 at 2:02 pm to Green Chili Tiger
His outline rings strikingly close to what ended up being Moana.
You think it's not easy for Disney to fabricate 'evidence' on a new project, claim it as their own, and then present THAT as their own work?
Sure, whatever.
Posted on 1/13/25 at 2:04 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
Who's to say Bucky isn't the one making shite up?
Posted on 1/13/25 at 2:10 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
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Who's to say Bucky isn't the one making shite up?
Reread my first & second post. I said even if he DOES have receipts, and he'd better, Disney is still likely to win.
This reminds me of the CBS vs Indie game developer, Anas Abdin regarding space traveling blue tardigrades and Star Trek: Discovery .
Plagiarism Today .
I'm just the messenger here.
This post was edited on 1/13/25 at 2:35 pm
Posted on 1/13/25 at 2:19 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
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I'm just the messenger here.
Mans is backpedaling HARD
Posted on 1/13/25 at 2:22 pm to Broski
Zero backpeddling. Just offering up facts. Try reading first, then reacting.
Posted on 1/13/25 at 2:27 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
Is this going to be the case where a poster completely switches positions on civil lawsuits asking for outrageous amounts of money since it’s against Disney?
Posted on 1/13/25 at 2:30 pm to drizztiger
Switching from "he'll probably lose" to what... he'll absolutely win?
I don't get what point you're attempting here.
10 Billion is a boat load of money. That's really the issue here. Seems unlikely he'd get an amount which is far more than any profit Moana 1 or 2 will ever see.
But carry on.
I don't get what point you're attempting here.
10 Billion is a boat load of money. That's really the issue here. Seems unlikely he'd get an amount which is far more than any profit Moana 1 or 2 will ever see.
But carry on.
Posted on 1/13/25 at 2:34 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
quote:That’s what you read?
Switching from "he'll probably lose" to what... he'll absolutely win?
Wow, man. I knew you were slow, but I didn’t think it was that bad.
Posted on 1/13/25 at 2:34 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
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Switching from "he'll probably lose" to what... he'll absolutely win?
I don't get what point you're attempting here.
10 Billion is a boat load of money. That's really the issue here.
Solid pivot from "Unfortunately, despite the evidence, Disney will likely win. Probably outright, with no 'settlement'." to "10 Billion is a boat load of money. That's really the issue here."
Posted on 1/13/25 at 2:37 pm to drizztiger
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Wow, man. I knew you were slow, but I didn’t think it was that bad.
Vastly more intelligent than you, but not saying much.
Instead of inventing things to be angry over because you're simping HARD for Disney, why not just read the linked story, and make up your own mind?
(Sorry about those Galactic Starcruiser reservations ya had)
Posted on 1/13/25 at 2:37 pm to Green Chili Tiger
disney has been sued for several of their pixar movies
they go after deep pockets and usually no merit to these claims
probably hoping disney gives them a payday to make it go away
they go after deep pockets and usually no merit to these claims
probably hoping disney gives them a payday to make it go away
Posted on 1/13/25 at 2:40 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
quote:I have never simped hard for Disney. You’re definitely confused.
because you're simping HARD for Disney
Thanks for the laugh though, I needed a good chuckle.
Posted on 1/13/25 at 2:40 pm to Green Chili Tiger
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Solid pivot from "Unfortunately, despite the evidence, Disney will likely win. Probably outright, with no 'settlement'." to "10 Billion is a boat load of money. That's really the issue here."
There's zero pivot on my part.
I'd not be surprised if Disney won. Said that outright. Even if he DOES have the evidence. I paralleled that with the CBS v Indie game maker case.
And yes, I suspect because of the huge ask of 10 Billion, this story is getting some coverage.
Seriously, how are you angry at me that someone filed suit at Disney? Are you that devoted to your childhood imagination? I don't get it.
Posted on 1/13/25 at 2:41 pm to drizztiger
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I have never simped hard for Disney
You're soaking in it right now.
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