re: Defend a villain

Roy Batty: The Blade Runner

He just wanted to live longer than his creator designed


Hell, even Deckard felt bad for him in the end when Batty spared his life.

Another Blade Runner villain I’ll defend is Luv.

There are subtle hints that Luv just isn’t a psychotic murderer and loyal to a default to Wallace, but that she’s actively defying her master.

Yes she is after the child like K is, but from Luv’s perspective, K is a killer of her own kind and has also been instructed to kill the child.

Unlike other replicants, Luv has the ability to lie and says that she’ll lie to Wallace that K’s boss tried to kill her first. She also seems interested in K a way a replicant shouldn’t be and asking him pointed questions that Wallace would not be interested in.

Additionally she gave herself the name “Luv” because that’s the euphemism in which Wallace refers to her and all of his creations as when he actually considers her nameless.

Personally I think Luv saw herself as a Messiah or John the Baptist for the Replicants and planned to betray Wallace to use the child to start the war between Replicants and humans. But in the end, K stops her plans and they kill one another ignorant on the fact that they overall had the same plan.

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The wicked witch of the west in wizard of oz.

Sister is killed by Dorothy's house, then Dorothy steals her dead sisters slippers. She is righfully pissed off. Glinda the bitch steps in and causes chaos by instructing Dorothy to keep the slippers and not bothering to tell her the slippers can bring her home at any time. At any time the WWotW can murder the scarecrow and likely the lion but chooses not to and engages in scare tactics instead. Dorothy ends up murdering her as well in the end, as well as sending the mentally ill Wizard of Oz off to his likely death in a balloon and the bitch Glinda laughs it up and tells her she could have left at any time and laughs it up again.

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Oh, I’ve always agreed with that. Glinda is one of the worst people ever in movies.

Long thread four years ago.

Coach Bud Kilmer was not a perfect man, but he was 100% right to be up Mox's arse. Mox was completely trying to usurp his control, including installing his own playbook and running his own plays. At a school like West Canaan those players would have been taught variations of Kilmer's playbook/blocking schemes from the first time they put pads on so that by the time they reached high school they could operate as a well oiled machine. And yet her comes some kid who doesn't even like football all that much trying to run 5 wide receiver sets and call hook and ladders to their 360 pound right guard. Dumbest smart kid, indeed.

And don't get me started on Mox getting all pissy about Kilmer rightfully calling him out after the Coyotes dropped a big district game to a weak opponent.

"The hard work of so many, sacrificed by the disrespect of a few. Moxon, you sacrificed the honor of this football team and the town that supports it. shite, you poisoned my team, son. I hope last night was fun! Hope it was fun!"

The scene paints Kilmer like he's some out of pocket a-hole, but he's completely right! Mox DID organize an all night drinking binge with the team's most important players which caused them to play like crap and drop a game they had not business losing. Just because Mox didn't care about football or winning district doesn't mean the other players who are working hard don't care about it. His behavior was disrespectful to everyone involved, but instead of taking responsibility all he did was pout and cry about mean ole Coach Bud Kilmer.

Granted the injury stuff with Kilmer is impossible to defend, but just because Kilmer was wrong in that regard doesn't mean Moxon was right about everything else.

Horrible take.

She used him for emotional (and sometimes financial support). She wasn't passing out arse for free.

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Came here to post Bud Kilmer.

Also Al Pellett from Summer Rental. The man was a pillar of the community. He wasn’t some transient vacationer. He actually invested in the community. Meanwhile John Candy disrupts his dinner, damages his boat, and then cheats to win the regatta.

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She used him for emotional (and sometimes financial support). She wasn't passing out arse for free.

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So she acted like a woman? He would have given her money if she had only asked. That would have been wicked. She didn’t do that. She barely even used him at all, which constantly upset Forest. He wanted to provide for her and protect her. She did not take advantage of him the way she could have. But you know what she did do? She gave a young retarded guy a piece of arse. No other woman was doing that.

I will say that in good iterations of the character, Lex Luthor has a major point about Superman. We are merely at his mercy if he decides to be good, but if he doesn’t, then we are but his play things. Granted it more has to do with Superman’s mere existence is blasphemous to Lex Luthor’s pride and ego, but he does have a point on Superman’s capabilities.

My contribution will likely be unpopular, but bear with me. I think Dr Nolan was made out to be the villain in Dead Poets Society, but I don't think he should have been. Mr Nolan was the headmaster of a prep school where parents paid a ton of money to get their kids ready for Ivy League schools and follow on careers in business, medicine, or law. Mr Keating was distracting them from that and the parents, rightfully in my opinion, weren't having it. If Mr Keating wants to teach art and poetry and literature, then he should either be teaching somewhere else or be willing to stay within the parameters set by the school.

Neil's dad is unfairly villainized as well.

That said, I love DPS and the teenage version of myself comes out every time I watch it and frick Dr Nolan and Neil's dad. fricking assholes. Oh captain! My captain!