re: Captain America: Civil War RT Watch | 92% (213-19) 7.7 avg

Let's go down the numerous incidents involving the Avengers:

Iron Man 1: Stane/Stark battle through the streets of LA.

Incredible Hulk: Banner/Blonsky battle through Harlem

Iron Man 2: Monaco Grand Prix demolished

Thor: Small town in New Mexico destroyed

The Avengers: Stuttgart fight and the Chitauri incursion into NY.

Iron Man 3: Mannhein Chinese Theater destroyed, POTUS kidnapped

Thor The Dark World: London demolished by Malekith

The Winter Soldier: Helicarrier incident in DC

Age of Ultron: Johannesburg, Seoul, Sokovian capital destroyed

Ant-Man: Pym Tech destroyed, significant property damage to SF outskirts

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Let's go down the numerous incidents involving the Avengers:

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You still missed a few if we're talking about major news events that probably were covered:

Incredible Hulk: Battle on that college campus

Iron Man 2: Stark Expo

Iron Man 3: Stark House destroyed

The Winter Soldier: Fury chase, Street battle after Sitwell's capture

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You don't think the populace would start panicking and demand action?

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And yet, nothing. We've had 11 movies that took place on Earth so far in the MCU and we haven't seen even a hint of any panic or outcry or demands from the public. AoS? Nothing. Daredevil? Nothing. Jessica Jones? Nothing.

DC has the public asking questions in their second movie, wanting the heroes of among us to answer for their actions, to be held accountable. They are at least trying to give an honest human reaction to what's occurring and people say it's not fun? Really? Yeah because having Gods walking amongst us is nothing special.

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. AoS? Nothing. Daredevil? Nothing. Jessica Jones? Nothing.

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All three of those shows have scenes that clearly indicate normal people are pissed at powered up people.

Jessica Jones is jumped by people who are angry with and blame powered people over what happened in Avengers.

Both Foggy Nelson and Karen Page (and others) voice anti vigilante/powered people sentiments in Daredevil on multiple occasions.

AoS just had an entire episode about a vigilante militia that is going around attacking (and attempting to kill) powered people like two weeks ago. Anti Inhuman ideology has been voiced many times on the show the last few years by characters like Mack and Simmons.

Iron Man 2 even had Tony Stark testifying before a government committee due to his unilateral actions across the globe.

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Jessica Jones? Nothing.

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more than once on that show, the public questioned the hero types.

It's barely mentioned, barely addressed. When it is, it's usually a handful of people and it's in isolated incidents that come and go within a few minutes.

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So should every movie feature 15 minutes of Senate hearing involving the public's response? Because I loved that stuff in the prequels of Star Wars and in BvS. I watch C-SPAN on my office days cause I can't get enough Senate hearings.

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I'm not talking about senate hearings, I'm talking about public sentiment. There never seems to be any fallout for their actions at all. Nothing. When they did show the response to them at the end of Avengers it was all, yeah these guys are awesome! Let's just ignore that a Norse God is now walking amongst us.... and the fact that a big arse portal was just ripped open in the middle of Manhattan and now alien life has been confirmed. Let's just gloss over all of that.

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Marvel makes mention of it and now everything is coming to a head and they have a movie involving the fallout. We bash Marvel when they spend too much time building to other movies and now we're bashing them for not spending enough time with this storyline?

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They've mentioned it in passing on AoS and the netflix shows. Most of those mentions were in passing and were forgotten just as quickly as when they arose. I will say that I like that AoS brought in the Watchdogs group, but as quickly as they arose, they were disposed of.

The biggest criticism of Marvel's movies is that there are no consequences to them. There are no risks. They basically have the superhero equivalent of a happily ever after at the end of each movie. Only one of their movies has really changed up the universe they have built in any meaningful way and that just so happen to be their best movie to date (TWS). They also have a huge villain problem too as most of their villains are just plot devices rather than full-fledged characters with genuine motivations.

Don't get me wrong, I do enjoy the Marvel movies for what they are. They allow me to be an 8 year old again for 2, 2 and half hours at a time again. However, I do enjoy superhero movies that don't ask me to become a child again as well. There has to be some balance to where Marvel can add some weight and consequences to their movies while also developing a villain worth a damn without losing their Disney charm. I mean hell, 90% of their animated movies involve the death of parents or loved ones or the lack of a parent, so why can't they incorporate some real emotional weight in their movies? I'll concede that TWS had some of this in the final fight between Cap and TWS, but that was due to the nature of their relationship and because of Bucky's status in that movie.

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Many of the battles and conflicts in the MCU occur away from civilian casualties

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Ugh no they haven't. Battle of New York was directly on the isle of Manhattan, TWS helicarriers were in DC proper, right on the Potomac, and the Ultron situation literally took half of the Sokovian capital for a ride into the atmosphere. That's just three of their climaxes.

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How many military events occur around the world each day? Only a few places on the planet have to deal with that shite with civilians.

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Well yeah outside of open war, most military conflicts are small firefights that start and finish within minutes, hours at most. That's how those situations are suppose to go down. Not a good comparison at all.

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Most of the first world doesn't know about it unless it's mentioned on the news

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Most of that is special forces/black ops stuff. Our federal government isn't going to tell us what's going on unless they want us to kiss their arse for the good news. For example, if the mission to kill OBL had failed, we likely never would have heard about it, unless we latter had captured/killed him.

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Hell, I would imagine most of America only read what happened in The Winter Soldier in their newspaper (or online equivalent).

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Lol you're not serious are you?

No, Marvel has not had any major backlash or reaction from the public but Marvel has also not bothered to give us the perspectives of the general public. It seems like this movie is going to be the one to do that.

The smaller scale stuff has touched on it, but the Avengers are not involved with that part. They are up in their tower.

I am not going to fault them for not addressing it in the movies much when this was always in the cards.