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re: Breaking Bad, Season 5, Episode 3

Posted on 7/31/12 at 9:59 am to
Posted by Cajun Revolution
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Posted on 7/31/12 at 9:59 am to
It's the one show nobody on this board complains about. That should be an indication it's a notch above the rest.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
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Posted on 7/31/12 at 10:31 am to
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It's the one show nobody on this board complains about. That should be an indication it's a notch above the rest.


There was one dick whistle who used to complain about the show, but we ran him off.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
63408 posts
Posted on 7/31/12 at 10:35 am to
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And the extreme hate for her, doesn't that really mean good writing and acting?


This. I hope Anna Gunn wins an Emmy. She deserves it.
Posted by night83
Member since Jun 2012
656 posts
Posted on 7/31/12 at 10:48 am to
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This. I hope Anna Gunn wins an Emmy. She deserves it.




Here's a question I am considering, with all the talk of who can rat out who to the DEA if it comes down to it:

What evidence does Skyler have on Walt that he is a meth cook?

There's some money for sure, but what other illegal activities did she witness or what physical evidence can she point to?

I think part of the reason she won't turn Walt in is that she doesn't have the goods to protect herself from prosecution and she knows it.
Posted by Gnar Cat21
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Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 7/31/12 at 10:48 am to
Meh, I'm not so sure it's her acting. I think it's just her decisions and wish-washy behavior

When she broke down to Marie and screamed shut up! I actually thought that felt kind of forced.

To each their own though. I don't think she's bad just not near some of the others on the show


Edit: and she still came across as annoying to me even when she was doing what has needed to be done since season one, telling Marie to shut the frick up. Both characters are annoying to me
This post was edited on 7/31/12 at 10:50 am
Posted by TigerRad
Columbia, SC
Member since Jan 2007
5365 posts
Posted on 7/31/12 at 11:06 am to
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Does anyone else really think that this may be one of the best shows to be on TV, ever?

Right here. Could potentially top The Wire in my mind.




I have these thoughts myself. As far as traditional TV goes, BB is the all time greatest without a doubt. I never thought the Sopranos would be surpassed, but it just has.

The things that set The Wire apart are its importance as a message about our country. It changes the way one looks at the American city. It is also basically like a documentary in style and realism (season 5 notwithstanding). I therefore cant really consider it against traditional TV entertainment shows. It is above the discussion. Should be considered with literature rather than TV shows really.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
63408 posts
Posted on 7/31/12 at 11:06 am to
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What evidence does Skyler have on Walt that he is a meth cook?


Does she really need evidence?
Posted by night83
Member since Jun 2012
656 posts
Posted on 7/31/12 at 11:11 am to
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Does she really need evidence?



If she wants protection as an informant, I would think that she needs to give the feds something to lessen her own punishment.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
63408 posts
Posted on 7/31/12 at 11:15 am to
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If she wants protection as an informant, I would think that she needs to give the feds something to lessen her own punishment.


She could give up Goodman in addition to Walt.
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
11377 posts
Posted on 7/31/12 at 11:29 am to
Isn't their spousal priveledge? I don't think she can testify against him. Plus she is directly involved now in the money laundering. It was all her idea.
Posted by night83
Member since Jun 2012
656 posts
Posted on 7/31/12 at 11:32 am to
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Isn't their spousal priveledge? I don't think she can testify against him.


My understanding is that she can't be forced to testify, but can choose to. Am I mistaken?
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
63408 posts
Posted on 7/31/12 at 11:41 am to
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Isn't their spousal priveledge? I don't think she can testify against him. Plus she is directly involved now in the money laundering. It was all her idea.


She needs to go see a criminal defense attorney who can advise her on how to proceed. I'm sure she'd get off rather light considering she ratted out a murdering meth maker. Spousal privilege means the spouse cannot be forced to testify against the other spouse. They're more than welcome to do this willingly.
This post was edited on 7/31/12 at 11:42 am
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
109242 posts
Posted on 7/31/12 at 11:45 am to
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What evidence does Skyler have on Walt that he is a meth cook?

There's some money for sure, but what other illegal activities did she witness or what physical evidence can she point to?

I think part of the reason she won't turn Walt in is that she doesn't have the goods to protect herself from prosecution and she knows it.


Walt may just say in response to any accusations that he told Skylar he was cooking meth so she wouldn't know he was gambling again

Then he used current events such as the bombing in the nursing home to embellish his story.
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
11377 posts
Posted on 7/31/12 at 11:52 am to
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Spousal privilege means the spouse cannot be forced to testify against the other spouse. They're more than welcome to do this willingly.


I'm actually a big enough geek to look this up, per wikipedia..

"The spousal communications privilege or confidences privilege is a form of privileged communication which protects the contents of confidential communications between spouses during their marriage from testimonial disclosure. The privilege applies in civil and criminal cases.

Both the witness-spouse and the party-spouse hold the spousal communications privilege, so either may invoke it to prevent the other from testifying about a confidential communication made during marriage"

LINK

I'm sure it changes from state to state or whether it'd be a federal trial..
Posted by Spoonie Luv
Member since Jun 2011
1742 posts
Posted on 7/31/12 at 12:28 pm to
I would not be surprised at all, if Walt has been compiling evidence against her jsut in case she decides to turn.

She decides to turn and try to say she had minimal involvement, and BOOM Walt hits them with tons of evidence documenting her willingness to help and everything she did (involvement with getting Ted paralyzed, involvement with getting Bogdod "in trouble" with the environmental agency, involvement with getting Ted to skirt past the IRS, helping with the car wash money laundering). She is far from an innocent bystander.
Posted by Josh Fenderman
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Member since Jul 2011
7044 posts
Posted on 7/31/12 at 12:42 pm to
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The things that set The Wire apart are its importance as a message about our country. It changes the way one looks at the American city. It is also basically like a documentary in style and realism (season 5 notwithstanding). I therefore cant really consider it against traditional TV entertainment shows. It is above the discussion. Should be considered with literature rather than TV shows really.

I agree with you. I guess I should've said BB could top the Wire purely from an entertainment standpoint in my mind. I totally agree with you though that The Wire changed the way I look at things.
Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
WeWaCo
Member since Dec 2007
37538 posts
Posted on 7/31/12 at 2:38 pm to
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What evidence does Skyler have on Walt that he is a meth cook?


He flat out told her in Season 3 or the beginning of season 4. Remember the scene when she's railing on his arse about lieing to her, the 2nd cell phone, not telling his mother about the Cancer (which is a terribly bad dick move that no-one points to in the evil that is Walter White)

She's thinking that he's selling coke, he goes, "no methamphetamine. I'm strictly a manufacturer; I don't sell"

Of course that conversation wouldn't hold up in court. She's not gonna roll on Walt, surely not now. He's the danger, he does the knocking. She didn't sign the divorce papers so she couldn't be forced to testify against him if it ever came to that.



btw, shouldn't Walt have a couple slampieces by now. Forget Skylar, go get some young trim.
Posted by Matisyeezy
End of the bar, Drunk
Member since Feb 2012
16638 posts
Posted on 7/31/12 at 2:56 pm to
I can't see her rolling on him either. Too much is at stake. I'd say there's a greater chance she picks up and leaves with Holly in the middle of the night when Walt's out. I only say Holly because of Walt Jr.'s unwavering loyalty to his father and I think the odds that she'd get him to leave are a toss-up.

IF she does pick up and run, the question is does it come in response to a tip that the DEA is closing in on Walt, or does her leaving get Hank and the DEA to take a closer look at Walt? Of course I'm assuming the DEA finds out about Walt, but if they don't I think I'd be disappointed. There's so much potential there.
Posted by mr. penguin
Member since Jun 2009
7481 posts
Posted on 7/31/12 at 2:57 pm to
Any foreshadowing or symbolism regarding the Walt Whitman book Walt unpacked and put on his nightstand?

Just curious what y'all think
Posted by Josh Fenderman
Ron Don Volante's PlayPen
Member since Jul 2011
7044 posts
Posted on 7/31/12 at 3:00 pm to
Shows how Walt knew about that quote in Gale's lab notebook so quick.
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