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Posted on 9/25/13 at 12:43 am to Mr. Misanthrope
thats a stretch imo
Posted on 9/25/13 at 1:24 am to SEClint
My bad misread
Carry on
Carry on
Posted on 9/25/13 at 1:44 am to Dr. 3
Clever idea but it can't happen. Walt has no way of getting money to his family. Anyway, it seems they don't want it at this point even if he could somehow work a miracle.
Posted on 9/25/13 at 1:58 am to Carson123987
quote:I agree, it is a stretch for sure. I keep looking for a way that clusterfricks GM, kills the NNs and gets money to his family. I can't see a way for him to do any of that without help from unlikely allies and Jesse and Lydia seem to be the only ones available.
thats a stretch imo
We will see when Sunday rolls around.
Posted on 9/25/13 at 2:07 am to Unknown_Poster
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Clever idea but it can't happen. Walt has no way of getting money to his family. Anyway, it seems they don't want it at this point even if he could somehow work a miracle.
Yeah, it seems unlikely. I was thinking that Walt was going to hold Jesse to his earlier promise to get Walt's share of money to Walt's family and getting back into his family's good graces by pinning everything on GM. How in the world are they going to tie everything down in an hour? Whatever it is, I'm pretty sure it will be amazing.
Posted on 9/25/13 at 9:36 am to Mr. Misanthrope
We are still discussing the meth? It's really simple. There's no way for the meth to be blue and hit the purity level unless Walter or Jesse made it. PERIOD. Gus searched for someone to satisfy these criteria and was able to find a super smart chemist, and he still couldn't do it. So, no, todd is not going to be able to do it on his own.
I like your idea of how thigs will play out. I just don't see them doing another DVD. The show is better than that.
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A DVD similar to what he did to Hank with GM as the culprit would work well.
I like your idea of how thigs will play out. I just don't see them doing another DVD. The show is better than that.
quote:But it might all work out to where his family doesn't know that it is actually the money that Walt earned from the drugs. Maybe a "you and Walter have deserved this money from day one of Grey Matter. Walt wouldn't take it for his treatments. Please take it now."
Anyway, it seems they don't want it at this point even if he could somehow work a miracle.
Posted on 9/25/13 at 10:12 am to Unknown_Poster
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Anyway, it seems they don't want it at this point even if he could somehow work a miracle.
Good point that is getting lost in the shuffle. And how is Skyler supposed to keep it since the DEA is all up in her right now.
I think the ultimate irony would be Walt continually declaring he did this for his family and at the end of the day he couldnt even give or to them, nor would they want it. Making all that he is doing futile.
Posted on 9/25/13 at 10:36 am to Dr. 3
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I think the ultimate irony would be Walt continually declaring he did this for his family and at the end of the day he couldnt even give or to them, nor would they want it. Making all that he is doing futile.
Yea, we have seen this throughout the series and it get more pronounced in these last few episodes. He's doing all this for his family, which really doesn't exist anymore. The scene that sticks out is the one where Jr is on the ground with Skylar after she swiped him with the knife and Walter angrily/sadly yells "We are a family!!!"
Posted on 9/25/13 at 10:43 am to Chair
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We are still discussing the meth? It's really simple. There's no way for the meth to be blue and hit the purity level unless Walter or Jesse made it. PERIOD
That doesn't mean meth with a lower purity than Walt/Jesse yet good enough for the Europeans couldn't be colored blue. Is that really too much of a stretch for you?
Posted on 9/25/13 at 11:07 am to LNCHBOX
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That doesn't mean meth with a lower purity than Walt/Jesse yet good enough for the Europeans couldn't be colored blue. Is that really too much of a stretch for you?
Can you just stop? Obviously everyone, but you, knows what's going on. It's not rocket science dude. I'm not even going to bother explaining it to you for the 1000th time, just stfu about the blue. You're thinking about it too much and whenever half the thread is you arguing with everyone else about the fact that Walter knows the nazis let Jesse live, you just need to accept it. That's the whole point, Walt know Jesse is alive. Get over it already
Posted on 9/25/13 at 11:16 am to GeauxLSUGeaux
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Can you just stop? Obviously everyone, but you, knows what's going on. It's not rocket science dude. I'm not even going to bother explaining it to you for the 1000th time, just stfu about the blue. You're thinking about it too much and whenever half the thread is you arguing with everyone else about the fact that Walter knows the nazis let Jesse live, you just need to accept it. That's the whole point, Walt know Jesse is alive. Get over it already
No I won't stop, because no one has a rebuttal. And I was done talking about it until Chair brought it up again.
Posted on 9/25/13 at 11:20 am to Dr. 3
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I think the ultimate irony would be Walt continually declaring he did this for his family and at the end of the day he couldnt even give or to them, nor would they want it. Making all that he is doing futile.
This may be one of, if not THE, key, overarching theme of the entire show.
If he had made a couple of million, stashed it in a gunsafe, died of cancer, he would probably have replaced any income/provider responsibilities as a public school teacher - if nothing else, enough to boost Skyler through until Holly started school.
But, oh, no - he wanted to be Heisenberg.
Be careful what you wish for.
Posted on 9/25/13 at 11:35 am to Ace Midnight
His family is done with him IMO. Once his actions resulted in Hank's death they were done with him. He's Heisenberg now, and Heisenberg is a lone wolf.
Posted on 9/25/13 at 12:27 pm to SW2SCLA
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His family is done with him IMO. Once his actions resulted in Hank's death they were done with him. He's Heisenberg now, and Heisenberg is a lone wolf.
This.
Posted on 9/25/13 at 12:36 pm to SW2SCLA
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Once his actions resulted in Hank's death they were done with him.
Yeah, but this path was set along time ago. His choice was made when he walked out and told that guy to stay out of his territory. THAT'S when he became Heisenberg, forever. The consequences just took months to unfold.
It's an American twist on the Greek tragedy. The tragic hero is Hank - and his tragic flaw was Walt. But, the more interesting and entertaining story was Walt's "break" to the "bad" side. (And lest we forget, it can be traced back to Hank taking Walt on the ride along - he didn't intend it to turn out this way, but none of us ever does - if it doesn't excuse Walt, how can it excuse Hank? Walt didn't want Hank to die - he did everything in his power to stop it - yet his actions led directly, inexorably to it.)
Therefore we focused on Walt the entire time. We've seen the tragedy at, sort of, the climax of the show - the heroic deaths of Gomie and Hank.
Now we just have to ride the wave to the shore with Walt, Skyler, Flynn, Marie, Jesse, Todd, Lydia, Jack and Co.
This post was edited on 9/25/13 at 12:37 pm
Posted on 9/25/13 at 12:44 pm to Ace Midnight
I would hardly call Hank and Gomey's deaths heroic.
Posted on 9/25/13 at 12:48 pm to JimMorrison
Posted on 9/25/13 at 1:12 pm to LNCHBOX
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No I won't stop, because no one has a rebuttal
Everyone is giving you rebuttals. The Europeans might have been satisfied for a little bit with the lower purity, but they weren't going to accept it forever. Hence, Lydia trying to get Walter to come back and trying to get Todd to up his game. If the Europeans were satisfied with 76%, why would Lydia keep ressing anyone she could to get them to start cooking again? Walter had firsthand knowledge of this because she talked to him about it directly. He knows big time buyers like the Europeans will not settle for mediocre forever.
And back to your constant blue issue. When people talk about the :blue meth" it's not just some meth that is blue in color. By definition, which the show has established:
BLUE METH = Walter's meth
The asumption you are making (which I really don't know how you can make this assumption when the show has made it obviously clear over it's run) is BLUE METH = any meth that is blue in color. This is where you are just simpyl wrong.
ETA: And I think you've brought up the fact that Lydia said she was going to just get out of the game since she couldn't find anyone to get the correct purity. Two things there:
1) this was likely a ploy by her to get Todd to do whatever it took to get the purity up; he is infatuated with Lydia and he wants to make her happy; she knows that and is trying to manipulate him to get what she wants/needs. If he doesn't get her the meth, he will never see her again.
2) Let's say she really was serious about getting out of the game. Did you not see what happened when Walt tried to get out? Gus basically strongarmed him and made him get back in, pouring millions into a super lab. I think the Europeans even strongarmed Walt into getting back in when he wanted out towards the end of Season 5. These big time buyers do not let you leave that easily.
This post was edited on 9/25/13 at 1:18 pm
Posted on 9/25/13 at 1:14 pm to Ace Midnight
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This may be one of, if not THE, key, overarching theme of the entire show.
Yep the one thing that he started out doing this all for is now lost to him forever.
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