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re: Breaking Bad S5E15 9/22 "Granite State"

Posted on 9/24/13 at 10:18 am to
Posted by Tigris
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Member since Jul 2005
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Posted on 9/24/13 at 10:18 am to
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Lest we forget Mike called this


And Todd's Uncle Jack should have killed Jesse but was talked out of it against his better judgement. Jack became dead meat when he made that decision.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
95578 posts
Posted on 9/24/13 at 10:29 am to
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And Todd's Uncle Jack should have killed Jesse but was talked out of it against his better judgement.


He should have killed Walt, too. Seriously, I would have killed Walt for $11 million at that point - no reservations.
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 9/24/13 at 10:34 am to
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Damn I'm gonna be on a flight after the LSU-Georgia game and going to miss the finale live

I'm gonna be driving back to Kentucky and hope I am able to make it back in time. I guess it depends on when I am able to roll out of bed Sunday morning.
Posted by Chair
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2013
2168 posts
Posted on 9/24/13 at 10:46 am to
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So no way that they just colored it blue to make the Europeans happy with the color?


I'm making my way through the thread now. This really isn't hard to figure out. Walter and Jesse are the only two that know how to make meth that satisfies two requirements:

BLUE and PURE (slightly less than 100%)

The guy that keeps harping on someone coloring it with blue food coloring to appease the Europeans is simply being difficult. The European group that is bulk buying this from Lydia is not stupid. They won't be easily fooled by blue food coloring. Someone with the money and resources to move bulk like this overseas will damn sure have the means to test the purity of product before a deal goes through. So NO, blue food coloring will not pass. Walter has been in the business for a long time and has learned how people conduct it. He knows that if there is blue meth in Europe, it is his recipe.
Posted by Chair
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 9/24/13 at 10:49 am to
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He doesn't know it was 92% pure.


The only way for there to be blue meth in Europe is if it WAS that purity. What don't you get?
Posted by Chair
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2013
2168 posts
Posted on 9/24/13 at 11:11 am to
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So it is more reasonable for Walt to assume Jesse survived with the Nazis after the desert encounter rather than assuming Todd and co made a passable blue meth?


Again, Walter is not stupid. He is very smart and very aware of how people operate in the drug world after being in it for a while now. It's not unreasonable for him to make the connection that the Nazi's have somehow forced Jesse to stay around and cook. There have been things to tip this off:

newspapers - althoguh we don't know for sure whether or not he has been reading everything, it's not unreasonable to think he has been looking for news of Jesse to pop up concerning his death, and he has not seen that

Lydia/Europeans - Walter knows the people overseas have not been happy with what they are getting
Posted by GeauxAggie972
Poterbin Residence
Member since Aug 2009
29542 posts
Posted on 9/24/13 at 12:03 pm to
It's better not to argue with him
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49487 posts
Posted on 9/24/13 at 12:44 pm to
It's going to annoy me if somehow Brock ends up with all of Walters money.
Posted by craigbiggio
Member since Dec 2009
31805 posts
Posted on 9/24/13 at 12:48 pm to
I had a dream last night that the cold open for the finale was Brock walking outside and finding Andrea
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
63390 posts
Posted on 9/24/13 at 12:52 pm to
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It's going to annoy me if somehow Brock ends up with all of Walters money.


How would he get this?
Posted by LasVegasTiger
Idaho
Member since Apr 2008
8704 posts
Posted on 9/24/13 at 12:53 pm to
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Jesse doesn't have to actively kill Walt. He doesn't have it in him. But doing it passively may be possible for him.


He had it in him to pop a slug in Gales face. At this point I doubt he would think twice about killing Walt.
Posted by chief420
Parkersburg,WV
Member since Apr 2009
4189 posts
Posted on 9/24/13 at 12:53 pm to
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It's going to annoy me if somehow Brock ends up with all of Walters money.


It's more likely than Brock and Jesse riding off into the sunset like someone else mentioned
Posted by tiger2012
bossier city/Los Angeles/Atlanta
Member since Sep 2006
4493 posts
Posted on 9/24/13 at 12:56 pm to
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Lydia/Europeans - Walter knows the people overseas have not been happy with what they are getting


Hopefully, All the drug players will converge in this final episode.

I'm even hoping that there's a reference to the Juarez Cartel reconstituting their power/territory. It never seemed right that the Cartel would just disappear after Eladio and his personal guards were poisoned.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49487 posts
Posted on 9/24/13 at 12:57 pm to
Jesse is at the same place the money is? Probably feels Walter killed her by telling jacks crew who she was, so now he feels likeWalter did after hank, he poisoned Brock, etc..may would be poetic justice. But I think it would be lame.
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
72099 posts
Posted on 9/24/13 at 1:33 pm to
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It's more likely than Brock and Jesse riding off into the sunset like someone else mentioned


Shame on the state of new Mexico if they give jesse custody of Brock in his current condition
Posted by Chair
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2013
2168 posts
Posted on 9/24/13 at 2:52 pm to
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He had it in him to pop a slug in Gales face. At this point I doubt he would think twice about killing Walt.


Who was Gale to him? Nobody.

Despit all that has gone on between the two, you can't compare Walter to Gale.

And it really wasn't that easy for Jesse to do it. He struggled with it big time. He was even crying when he shot him I believe.
Posted by LasVegasTiger
Idaho
Member since Apr 2008
8704 posts
Posted on 9/24/13 at 3:07 pm to
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Who was Gale to him? Nobody.

Despit all that has gone on between the two, you can't compare Walter to Gale.


Would probably be easier for me to kill a guy that just told me he killed my g/f, told the Nazi crew where I was hiding so they could finish the hit that he put out on me, only to lead them not to finish the hit, but torture me and then kill my other g/f. Then shooting some random dude in the face.

But that is just me..
Posted by Dr. 3
Member since Mar 2005
11368 posts
Posted on 9/24/13 at 3:08 pm to
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And it really wasn't that easy for Jesse to do it. He struggled with it big time. He was even crying when he shot him I believe.



It really is an amazing scene. Honestly, Im glad I did not get into it until S4 started. That cliffhanger must have been brutal.

When Gale opens the door he offers him money. Gale expression completely changes when sees Jesse eyes and realizes its not about money and pleads for his life.
Posted by rondo
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/24/13 at 4:46 pm to
The word "granite" comes from the Latin granum, a grain, in reference to the coarse-grained structure of such a crystalline rock.


Posted by SW2SCLA
We all float down here
Member since Feb 2009
23062 posts
Posted on 9/24/13 at 4:50 pm to
I thought granite state was the nickname for New Hampshire?
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