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re: Breaking Bad S5E15 9/22 "Granite State"
Posted on 9/25/13 at 1:21 pm to Chair
Posted on 9/25/13 at 1:21 pm to Chair
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Everyone is giving you rebuttals
That aren't based on anything besides being an informed viewer.
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The Europeans might have been satisfied for a little bit with the lower purity, but they weren't going to accept it forever. Hence, Lydia trying to get Walter to come back and trying to get Todd to up his game. If the Europeans were satisfied with 76%, why would Lydia keep ressing anyone she could to get them to start cooking again? Walter had firsthand knowledge of this because she talked to him about it directly. He knows big time buyers like the Europeans will not settle for mediocre forever.
I guess I missed the part of the show where they said it was impossible for Todd to make a better than his previous efforts but not equal to Walt's purity version of meth. What episode was that in?
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And back to your constant blue issue. When people talk about the :blue meth" it's not just some meth that is blue in color. By definition, which the show has established:
BLUE METH = Walter's meth
Really? So in the Charlie Rose interview, it is 100% fact when he says blue, he knows he is talking about the high purity and not just the color?
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The asumption you are making (which I really don't know how you can make this assumption when the show has made it obviously clear over it's run) is BLUE METH = any meth that is blue in color. This is where you are just simpyl wrong.
Which episode did they establish the phrase "blue meth" as a proper noun referring to one specific meth again? Oh that's right, you're making shite up.
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"Blue Sky" (also known as Big Blue, Blue Magic, or Fring's Blue[1]) is the street name which has been coined for the notoriously potent and 99.1% chemically pure crystal methamphetamine manufactured by Walter White and Jesse Pinkman.
Where in the interview did Charlie Rose use any of those terms?
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Posted on 9/25/13 at 1:23 pm to LNCHBOX
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Really? So in the Charlie Rose interview, it is 100% fact when he says blue, he knows he is talking about the high purity and not just the color?
Posted on 9/25/13 at 1:24 pm to PortCityTiger24
Not sure why you're laughing, it's a fair question.
Posted on 9/25/13 at 1:27 pm to Mr. Misanthrope
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Play the stock options the right way and someone could make untold millions from the company's downfall
cause you can by stock options for cash in the back alley.
Posted on 9/25/13 at 1:28 pm to JimMorrison
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I would hardly call Hank and Gomey's deaths heroic.
What do you want? They duked it out with 6 guys, who got the drop on them, at that. They had a pistol and a shotgun against 6 guns, including rifles. They had no prospect of backup and 1 engine block for cover.
It's not Pickett's Charge, but it'll do until heroic comes along.
Posted on 9/25/13 at 1:32 pm to LNCHBOX
Define "fair".
Posted on 9/25/13 at 1:32 pm to LNCHBOX
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LNCHBOX
Posted on 9/25/13 at 1:33 pm to PortCityTiger24
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Define "fair".
Considering I've just shown that the show doesn't in fact use "blue meth" as a proper noun for Walt's formula, it is a legitimate question.
Posted on 9/25/13 at 1:33 pm to JimMorrison
Props for reading.
Posted on 9/25/13 at 1:33 pm to LNCHBOX
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Not sure why you're laughing, it's a fair question.
Because your stupid questions have been answered numerous times yet you fail to acknowledge it because it doesn't go along with what you believe.
You do realize people in TV shows CAN think outside the box right?
I'm pretty sure Walt was just sitting there going
"Well Charlie didn't specifically say 96% purity blue meth being sold in Europe so it must be some knockoff and in no way my former co-cook that knows my recipe and was in the hands of evil neo-nazis the last time I saw him"
You really can't be this stubborn
Posted on 9/25/13 at 1:36 pm to LNCHBOX
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Really? So in the Charlie Rose interview, it is 100% fact when he says blue, he knows he is talking about the high purity and not just the color?
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Which episode did they establish the phrase "blue meth" as a proper noun referring to one specific meth again? Oh that's right, you're making shite up.
As a show, Breaking Bad does not dumb down it's viewers. They assume we as viewers have a level on intellect that allows us to come to conclusions about the show that are not diretly stated word for word. This is one of the things that makes the show great. They don't have to coe out and directly say "hey guys, this blue meth is Walter White's." Pretty simple. It's been established throughout the series. If you're not smart enough to come to simple conclusions without needing it spelled out for you, then maybe you should find a different show to watch.
quote:Where in the entire series have they used any of those terms? Blue Sky, Big Blue, Blue Magic, or Fring's Blue?? I remember Hank saying one time that it was Blue Sky, but other than that.....
Where in the interview did Charlie Rose use any of those terms?
Posted on 9/25/13 at 1:36 pm to GeauxAggie972
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Because your stupid questions have been answered numerous times yet you fail to acknowledge it because it doesn't go along with what you believe.
Did you read my post before that one?
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I'm pretty sure Walt was just sitting there going
"Well Charlie didn't specifically say 96% purity blue meth being sold in Europe so it must be some knockoff and in no way my former co-cook that knows my recipe and was in the hands of evil neo-nazis the last time I saw him"
You really can't be this stubborn
So we ignore that Walt knew he was sending Jesse to his death?
Do you really think Walt thought the Nazis would keep Jesse alive for months after the desert? That literally makes no sense.
Posted on 9/25/13 at 1:38 pm to GeauxAggie972
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You really can't be this stubborn
He has been so far.
I'm convinced by his reaction he at least suspects Jesse is alive making the blue. Perhaps he's just going back to confirm that. But, he also wants to do something to GM - I don't care how insignificant people think that part is - the Schwartzs humiliated him on national television. Walt intends to make them pay. He's as mad at them as he is anybody, except maybe Jack.
Again, I don't know if he's going to back to save Jesse or kill him, but that is part of his motivation, now.
Posted on 9/25/13 at 1:40 pm to Chair
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As a show, Breaking Bad does not dumb down it's viewers.
Yea, you the viewer have knowledge that Jesse is alive. You're telling me you think that Walt's motivation to go back is for Jesse, and not to take down GM because of that interview?
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They don't have to coe out and directly say "hey guys, this blue meth is Walter White's." Pretty simple. It's been established throughout the series. If you're not smart enough to come to simple conclusions without needing it spelled out for you, then maybe you should find a different show to watch.
Yay, another jackass that thinks he's smarter because of a disagreement about a TV show.
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Where in the entire series have they used any of those terms? Blue Sky, Big Blue, Blue Magic, or Fring's Blue?? I remember Hank saying one time that it was Blue Sky, but other than that.....
Can't just admit you're wrong about the terminology? Take it up with the show, not me. LINK
You'll notice "blue meth" is not a proper term for Walt's formula.
Posted on 9/25/13 at 1:41 pm to LNCHBOX
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So we ignore that Walt knew he was sending Jesse to his death?
Let's use your argument for this one. You keep saying we as viewers know the facts; therefore we can't assume Walter knows the same facts right? Walter gave the ok to kill Jesse, right? But did he see Jesse die? I don't think he did. So you saying that Walter knows Jesse to be dead, must just be you being an informed viewer right? Walter did not see Jesse die.
quote:Of course Walter didn't think they were going to keep him alive!!!! Which is why he was so shocked and angered when he heard about the blue meth, which made him realize they did not kill Jesse, or at least they didnt kill him immediately.
Do you really think Walt thought the Nazis would keep Jesse alive for months after the desert?
Posted on 9/25/13 at 1:43 pm to Chair
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Let's use your argument for this one. You keep saying we as viewers know the facts; therefore we can't assume Walter knows the same facts right? Walter gave the ok to kill Jesse, right? But did he see Jesse die? I don't think he did. So you saying that Walter knows Jesse to be dead, must just be you being an informed viewer right? Walter did not see Jesse die.
I never said he did. But it is reasonable for Walt to assume that Jesse would be killed well before months later. The Nazis didn'ts ay they were keepinghim alive to cook. They said they were keeping him alive to find out what he told Hank. Do you really disagree with that?
Posted on 9/25/13 at 1:43 pm to Chair
Jesus, now he's quoting Wikipedia and calling it "the show."
Posted on 9/25/13 at 1:44 pm to Chair
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Of course Walter didn't think they were going to keep him alive!!!! Which is why he was so shocked and angered when he heard about the blue meth, which made him realize they did not kill Jesse, or at least they didnt kill him immediately.
If you think he was pissed at that and not Elliott and Gretchen basically saying he did nothing, you should stop trying to talk down to me.
Posted on 9/25/13 at 1:44 pm to Chair
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Jesus, now he's quoting Wikipedia and calling it "the show."
Prove it wrong.
Posted on 9/25/13 at 1:45 pm to LNCHBOX
So he has no idea whether Jesse is dead or not. Sure, it's reasonable for him to assume JEsse is dead. But then hearing about his meth again triggered that he was alive for a little while.
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