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re: Breaking Bad rewatch - Hank (spoilers)

Posted on 8/13/20 at 3:03 pm to
Posted by Lakefront-Tiger
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Posted on 8/13/20 at 3:03 pm to
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It was an absurd reveal. I understood it perfectly.


Todd is right there revealed to be a killer without remorse. That part was necessary to set up the Uncle, his crew, and the finale. I fail to see how you don't understand that.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 8/13/20 at 3:19 pm to
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(note: I haven't seen Better Call Saul,

You should remedy that immediately. I'm not joking when I say it's one of the best shows on TV right now. And it will end up being better than BB by a good margin IMO (in some ways it already is). But it's that good.
Posted by Sun God
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Posted on 8/13/20 at 4:00 pm to
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It was an absurd reveal. I understood it perfectly

Posted by LanierSpots
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Posted on 8/13/20 at 4:50 pm to
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Is the train heist when Meth Damon shoots the child? That was a jump the shark moment.



Absolutely necessary.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
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Posted on 8/13/20 at 6:31 pm to
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That part was necessary to set up the Uncle, his crew, and the finale. I fail to see how you don't understand that.
Yes. I thought the crew itself was absurd and cartoonish. Nazis just operating freely a few miles out in the desert.
Posted by Corso
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Posted on 8/13/20 at 6:43 pm to
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I meant it was silly writing to have the wide-eyed nephew kid all of a sudden willing to commit the murder of a child


The whole point was that everybody else at least put some thought into it. Todd thought no more about killing that kid than he would putting the toilet seat up to piss, terrifyingly psychopathic.

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Not as bad as zombie Gus walking out with half a face, but still bad.


Did you even like the show? That was an all time death scene. When he walked out I went from face palming not believing he won again, to literally standing up and shouting holy shite at the TV like it was the winning touchdown. Not to mention the CGI was better than most $100 million budget movies
This post was edited on 8/13/20 at 6:44 pm
Posted by THRILLHO
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Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 8/13/20 at 7:01 pm to
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You should remedy that immediately. I'm not joking when I say it's one of the best shows on TV right now. And it will end up being better than BB by a good margin IMO (in some ways it already is). But it's that good.



I suspect that I'll still prefer BB to BCS when all is said and done, but I'll give BCS one big advantage: there aren't any characters that I hate or scenes that I want to fastforward through. Jessie was kind of hit or miss for me, and Skyler and Marie were frequently terrible. BCS doesn't have a single uninteresting character. I can only think of one bad scene throughout the entirety of BCS (octogenarian Mike beating the shite out of a gangbanger and scaring off his half-dozen gangbanger friends). Still, the peaks of Breaking Bad were just so high that the valleys aren't enough to prevent it from being the GOAT.

As for Hank, I agree that I'd like having drinks with him and having him on my side in a bar fight. But he got in the way of our hero, Walt (who did nothing wrong), so he deserved what happened to him in the end. I do appreciate that he went out like a man. Very much unlike Jessie, who would have been crying his arse off. While hank was getting (deservedly) murdered like a boss, Jessie was probably crying while watching one of those help an African kid commercials.
Posted by THRILLHO
Metry, LA
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 8/13/20 at 7:05 pm to
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Did you even like the show? That was an all time death scene. When he walked out I went from face palming not believing he won again, to literally standing up and shouting holy shite at the TV like it was the winning touchdown. Not to mention the CGI was better than most $100 million budget movies



Agreed, but I get his point. They could have toned-down the damage to Gus's face and had him stumble around for a moment before dying. Would have kept the scene a bit more grounded. But the tie adjustment was a great touch that perfectly embodied who Gus was.
Posted by Corso
Atlanta
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Posted on 8/13/20 at 7:24 pm to
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But the tie adjustment was a great touch that perfectly embodied who Gus was.


Yes, which is why I thought the damage was perfect. This guy was such a robot the whole show, with that proper neatness and politeness seen repeatedly, that despite the catastrophic damage that left him literally 1 second to live he was still robotically thinking about straightening his tie. I almost think it was a nod to other robot/machine movies where the only way to kill them is to blow them up, and up until the very end they are still going with the program until they just end. Gus stumbling around bleeding out wouldn't have been a fitting end to that machine of a character
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 8/13/20 at 7:47 pm to
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Todd was a monster. That was the point it was revealed to us.


Yeah, I don't think scrub gets that.

Just now watched the scene where Todd kills Andrea in front of Jesse because he tried to escape.

Those scenes show how evil and coldhearted Todd and his guys are.
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 8/13/20 at 7:51 pm to
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our hero, Walt (who did nothing wrong


Posted by i am dan
NC
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Posted on 8/13/20 at 8:35 pm to
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As for Hank, I agree that I'd like having drinks with him and having him on my side in a bar fight. But he got in the way of our hero, Walt (who did nothing wrong), so he deserved what happened to him in the end. I do appreciate that he went out like a man. Very much unlike Jessie, who would have been crying his arse off. While hank was getting (deservedly) murdered like a boss, Jessie was probably crying while watching one of those help an African kid commercials.


Lolwut??
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 8/13/20 at 9:22 pm to
Scrub is right about the Gus death. It was overly cartoonish and weird. Cool? Absolutely. But completely unbelievable to the point that it distracted from the episode for me.

And same with the Nazis. They were just cartoonish and bad, for the most part. S5 definitely was a huge step down for me. And it does end on an awesomely high note, but the “villains” just felt super forced and out of place for me.
Posted by JBM210
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Posted on 8/13/20 at 10:27 pm to
“Say my name!”
Posted by Corso
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2020
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Posted on 8/14/20 at 4:22 am to
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Scrub is right about the Gus death. It was overly cartoonish and weird. Cool? Absolutely. But completely unbelievable to the point that it distracted from the episode for me.


Why was it cartoonish, unbelievable, and weird? That is exactly how many explosion/bombing victims die
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
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Posted on 8/14/20 at 8:10 am to
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Why was it cartoonish, unbelievable, and weird? That is exactly how many explosion/bombing victims die



Right, I'll buy that. But they don't get half of their head blown out and exposed, and then get up and walk away, fix their tie, and THEN die.

It was cartoonish. May as well have been Daffy Duck getting his head blown in half and then making some smartass comment about it as he walks away.

It was just completely unbelievable, to the point of being ridiculous. Like I said, is was cool, sure. But also made me laugh audibly when I watched it for the first time.
This post was edited on 8/14/20 at 8:30 am
Posted by Peter167
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Posted on 8/14/20 at 8:15 am to
My name is ASAC and you can go frick yourself!

Posted by Mouth
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 8/14/20 at 8:33 am to
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I was rooting for Walt the whole time the first go round and now I have a completely different opinion of him.



Mike was my favorite character by far and then Hank.

When Walter killed Mike I wanted to come through the tv and strangle him. God I was pissed. Still am pissed, actually.
Posted by Corso
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2020
10692 posts
Posted on 8/14/20 at 12:08 pm to
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But they don't get half of their head blown out and exposed, and then get up and walk away, fix their tie, and THEN die.


Maybe I've seen too much shite, but that's how it happens too many times. People walk out of burning buildings on fire asking where they parked their car and drop dead, people walk away from car crashes with their intestines hanging out and texting at the same time. I get that you didn't like the scene, there's many I thought were over the top, but the death itself was far from ridiculous and actually quite realistic
Posted by LasVegasTiger
Idaho
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 8/14/20 at 2:12 pm to
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Just now watched the scene where Todd kills Andrea in front of Jesse because he tried to escape.

Those scenes show how evil and coldhearted Todd and his guys are.


Not to mention the movie El Camino and the housekeeper.
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