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re: Blockbuster Documentary Netflix
Posted on 3/24/21 at 10:25 am to boxcarbarney
Posted on 3/24/21 at 10:25 am to boxcarbarney
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Well yeah. Its a 21 year old vhs tape that would play for 15+ hours a day for a month, and was meant to be destroyed after. I prepared for the possibility that it wouldn't work, if that helps.
I'm just fricking with you. I just meant it's a pretty sound technology that should still work after all these years.
I actually wish stores like these still existed in enough places that I could take my kids to them. There was really no feeling quite like hitting up the movie rental place on a Friday night as a kid.
Posted on 3/24/21 at 10:33 am to CocomoLSU
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There was really no feeling quite like hitting up the movie rental place on a Friday night as a kid.
Mom takes you to the store, and you got one movie and one video game. And they were both yours to play/watch as many times as you wanted, up until Sunday by midnight.
Posted on 3/24/21 at 10:41 am to CocomoLSU
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Right, IIRC Blockbuster eventually came around to streaming, but it was way late to that party and was dying by that point, right?
Oh, yeah. They were already done for when they started up their streaming service. By that time Dish Network had bought the company and the streaming service was only available through Dish if I am remembering correctly.
Posted on 3/24/21 at 10:50 am to RollTide1987
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By that time Dish Network had bought the company
Which is funny because Blockbuster used to have a partnership with DirecTV. We had to sell DirecTV systems out of the store, which we all hated. IIRC, the pay per view movies had the Blockbuster logo on them.
Posted on 3/24/21 at 10:58 am to VinegarStrokes
was that the game with Bobson Dugnut?
Thought about naming my son that name. He'd be the king of travel ball.
Thought about naming my son that name. He'd be the king of travel ball.
Posted on 3/24/21 at 9:27 pm to Comic_Tiger
I still remember my blockbuster card number, I worked there though. It was fun to search the computer system for funny member numbers and famous people.
People were always full of shite about their late fees. We gave you several hours free that you didn’t know about and made sure the return was clear before then. People got real upset about it, it made me laugh. So many late fee Karen’s.
People were always full of shite about their late fees. We gave you several hours free that you didn’t know about and made sure the return was clear before then. People got real upset about it, it made me laugh. So many late fee Karen’s.
This post was edited on 3/24/21 at 9:38 pm
Posted on 3/24/21 at 10:34 pm to Dam Guide
22204405455 Remember it like it was yesterday.
I started at BBV 1998. I saw a lot of amazingly poor decisions by our CEO John Antioco. In fact, in 1999, there was a pilot test market for rentals by Internet in Colorado. I thought to myself “that’s funny, what do they expect me to do, deliver it to them?“ It failed. I remember this because Denver was also a test market for what would become Redbox. It was originally owned by McDonald’s Corp. hence the “Red” like their roof. McDonald’s didn’t pursue it and it became a different business entirely.
As far as the back-and-forth on whether or not it was Netflix that killed BBV, it wasn’t the catalyst for the downfall but was the nail in the coffin.
Revenue share was touched on in the doc about VHS but it was never fully explained what happened when DVD came around. Do you remember when you could purchase a DVD new at Walmart for $14 the same day that it became available for rental at BBV for $4.50? You couldn’t do that with VHS. This explains why: Hollywood’s biggest blunders
The article essentially says how arrogant Redstone and Antioco were when it came to the studios wanting to renegotiate rev share share for DVD and give rental a window before they would release it for retail sale and BBV declining with Redstone saying “we are your profit.”
This eventually brought the price of DVDs down so low by the likes of Walmart and Best Buy willing to take losses on them just to get people in the doors for the shot to sell them something else higher margin. It also lowered the capital requirements for a business like Netflix to obtain inventory to start their DVD by mail concept.
Ever since the DVD, it put Blockbuster on it’s heels because of the increased competition from retail giants to internet startups with novel approaches to content delivery.
The job had its ups and downs, but I can look back on it fondly. As someone stated before, nostalgia is a hell of a thing.
I started at BBV 1998. I saw a lot of amazingly poor decisions by our CEO John Antioco. In fact, in 1999, there was a pilot test market for rentals by Internet in Colorado. I thought to myself “that’s funny, what do they expect me to do, deliver it to them?“ It failed. I remember this because Denver was also a test market for what would become Redbox. It was originally owned by McDonald’s Corp. hence the “Red” like their roof. McDonald’s didn’t pursue it and it became a different business entirely.
As far as the back-and-forth on whether or not it was Netflix that killed BBV, it wasn’t the catalyst for the downfall but was the nail in the coffin.
Revenue share was touched on in the doc about VHS but it was never fully explained what happened when DVD came around. Do you remember when you could purchase a DVD new at Walmart for $14 the same day that it became available for rental at BBV for $4.50? You couldn’t do that with VHS. This explains why: Hollywood’s biggest blunders
The article essentially says how arrogant Redstone and Antioco were when it came to the studios wanting to renegotiate rev share share for DVD and give rental a window before they would release it for retail sale and BBV declining with Redstone saying “we are your profit.”
This eventually brought the price of DVDs down so low by the likes of Walmart and Best Buy willing to take losses on them just to get people in the doors for the shot to sell them something else higher margin. It also lowered the capital requirements for a business like Netflix to obtain inventory to start their DVD by mail concept.
Ever since the DVD, it put Blockbuster on it’s heels because of the increased competition from retail giants to internet startups with novel approaches to content delivery.
The job had its ups and downs, but I can look back on it fondly. As someone stated before, nostalgia is a hell of a thing.
Posted on 3/25/21 at 9:20 am to Aubie Spr96
Watched this last night.
Nice nostalgia, but Jesus, that was a cheap-arse documentary. Like one of those homemade docs that you find when you do a deep dive on Amazon Prime.
D to F list celebrities who have nothing to do with the topic. Kevin Smith, Paul Scheer, Jamie Kennedy... those guys have a direct link to Blockbuster. The rest were just filler. Doug Benson is your celeb anchor? Yikes.
I'd have preferred an in-depth look at the history of the mom and pops, Blockbuster, and the regional chains that Blockbuster put out of business (no mention of them).
Great nostalgia, but not a great doc.
Nice nostalgia, but Jesus, that was a cheap-arse documentary. Like one of those homemade docs that you find when you do a deep dive on Amazon Prime.
D to F list celebrities who have nothing to do with the topic. Kevin Smith, Paul Scheer, Jamie Kennedy... those guys have a direct link to Blockbuster. The rest were just filler. Doug Benson is your celeb anchor? Yikes.
I'd have preferred an in-depth look at the history of the mom and pops, Blockbuster, and the regional chains that Blockbuster put out of business (no mention of them).
Great nostalgia, but not a great doc.
Posted on 3/25/21 at 9:22 am to Obtuse1
Pretty sure this was a real candle, someone just edited the description.
This post was edited on 3/25/21 at 9:23 am
Posted on 3/25/21 at 9:26 am to boxcarbarney
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There was really no feeling quite like hitting up the movie rental place on a Friday night as a kid.
One of the best things ever.
Walking in and the anticipation that a game you have been wanting to play would be available.
Posted on 3/25/21 at 9:27 am to Fewer Kilometers
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Great nostalgia, but not a great doc.
Great point. I think Blockbuster is mostly a stand in for general video rental. I rented from Blockbuster but rented just as much from Movie Gallery and other mom and pops.
And yes I'm sentimental about it. Makes you feel old to be old enough to watch the birth, rise, and then fall of a massive industry.
The doc on the Jasper Mall (Amazon Prime, I think) was poignant for similar reasons. Malls are suffering similar--if slower--deaths. Would love to go to Record Bar (or Sound Shop), grab a Corn Dog at Corn Dog 7, and drop some quarters on Joust in Alladin's Castle, right before punching my ticket to Return of the Jedi.
Posted on 3/25/21 at 9:35 am to Grievous Angel
quote:If you haven't watched Colin Hanks' doc on Tower Records, search it out.
And yes I'm sentimental about it. Makes you feel old to be old enough to watch the birth, rise, and then fall of a massive industry.

Posted on 3/25/21 at 9:57 am to Fewer Kilometers
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If you haven't watched Colin Hanks' doc on Tower Records, search it out.
I have.
At some point in a decluttering fit I threw out all my old CDs. Ones I'd been collecting for decades. All the while knowing I'd probably regret it....and I do.
Dwight Yoakam is now in a dispute with his record company over his first album...and a lot of those songs are now not streaming. Seems like every time there's a dispute, they just pull the songs.
Definitely downsides to the is all digital world.
I remember spending tons of time just flipping through the CDs, cassettes, and albums. And yes I'm old enough to have bought/owned all of them. Had 1999, Kilroy Was Here, Thriller on Vinyl (and many others). I remember staring at the back of the first CD I bought (Survivor) and feeling like I was living in the future. This was back when the CDs were "behind the counter."
This post was edited on 3/25/21 at 9:58 am
Posted on 3/25/21 at 10:13 am to Aubie Spr96
My mind was blown that a VHS tape once retailed for $100.00
Posted on 3/25/21 at 10:42 am to LSUZombie
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My mind was blown that a VHS tape once retailed for $100.00
I was in retail and we sold cheap VHS rewinders (you bought that so you didn't wear out your VCR needlessly by rewinding every tape. One customer looked at this $9.99 rewinder and told me, "Like I would put my $100 films in that cheap thing."
The McDonald's Indiana Jones promotion really killed the VHS pricing model. Once people saw that McDonald's could sell films at $5.99, they realized how the studios were overpricing cassettes.
Here's an animated map of the rise and fall of Blockbuster in the continental US (YouTube)
Posted on 3/25/21 at 10:52 am to Fewer Kilometers
I watched this and thought it was ok. Early in the film they brought up a much more intriguing angle about places that had separate rooms for adult movies. Somebody should really dive into that. Like the dudes taking their kids to rent the muppet show and sneaking off to venture into the adult section secretly. That is vintage 80s douche baggery at its finest and would be comedy gold. Calls into the house. " Sir you are late on returning muppets take manhatten and debbie does dallas."
This post was edited on 3/25/21 at 10:53 am
Posted on 3/25/21 at 10:58 am to LSUZombie
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My mind was blown that a VHS tape once retailed for $100.00
You paid what the movie rental places paid...while they were making tons of money off it, you just owned it.
This sold for $89.99 in the early 80's.
First VHS we ever owned.
It would be like $245 today with inflation.
Posted on 3/25/21 at 11:02 am to Dam Guide
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People were always full of shite about their late fees. We gave you several hours free that you didn’t know about and made sure the return was clear before then. People got real upset about it, it made me laugh. So many late fee Karen’s.
I really don't get the hate for late fees even by posters in here. It wasn't hard to return a video on time
Posted on 3/25/21 at 11:27 am to Rou Leed
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Early in the film they brought up a much more intriguing angle about places that had separate rooms for adult movies.
Buying a dirty movie is one thing.
Renting a dirty movie... dude, you're now in a local business' database as a porn connoisseur.
Posted on 3/25/21 at 11:28 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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First VHS we ever owned.
Wish I still had the original Star Wars trilogy on VHS. Before Lucas defiled it.
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