re: Blade Runner 2049 spoilers discussion

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Ace Midnight

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You come off like a clown in this thread

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You come off like a clown in this thread

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Compared to folks fawning over it having "far surpassed" the original? I have tried not to be insulting - after all, these are subjective opinions about a film, but if I'M the clown for saying this movie had problems, well, then, call me Bozo.

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The one thing I know for sure is that being a Bladerunner would fricking suck

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They do tend to get their asses kicked - for true.

I mean, Holden was breathing with a machine. Deckard was damned lucky to survive 4 separate encounters with Nexus 6 models.

And, whatever model Luv was, she almost did in your boy K.

Gaff was walking with a cane as a young man. Has to be a story there. Probably got his arse kicked.

If you hated it the first time, why see it again?

I like this review and this comment because of a conversation I heard when I left the movie.

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BLADE RUNNER 2049 is something of a miracle—a sequel to a 35-year-old science fiction classic that feels urgent and necessary and which actually improves upon the original in some ways. Writer Sara Lynn Michener is thrilled with the new movie. “It passed the piss test,” Michener says in Episode 277 of the Geek’s Guide to the Galaxy podcast. “It’s 2 hours and 45 minutes. Both my partner and I had to pee halfway through, and neither of us could go to the bathroom, because we didn’t want to miss any of it.”

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That was so true. I queued up for the Men's Room to take a badly needed piss when it was over and two gentlemen in front of me said this:

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"I needed to piss halfway through the movie, but didn't want to miss anything."

"Yeah, me too. It was worth the discomfort of waiting!"

Everyone laughed.

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Wired

If you have an hour and a half, check out the podcast found on the same link.

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Ace Midnight

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I see that you are taking a beating on here; I felt you should know that you are not alone in your opinion of the movie.

The visuals were very, very impressive and I enjoyed them. I do not feel that I wasted my time. I certainly felt that I got my money's worth.

However, the story line was ridiculous. First of all, what "War" are they worried about? The miraculous child had already been alive for 28 years (living in the memory making lab). Why hadn't the "War" already started? Who would be fighting in the "War"? The new replicants versus the old ones? All replicants versus the humans?

How fortunate everything was that K noticed (1) the little yellow flower by the bottom of the tree, (2)the partially concealed date carved into the tree (which just happened to trigger something in his fabricated memory); (3) the markings missed by others during the autopsy. I have to assume that there would have been no story at all, otherwise. But why? The miracle child had clearly been alive for 28 years, already.

How strange that the decision to kill Rachel's offspring was decided by a lieutenant of the LAPD. Is there no one of higher authority to make such a call? Faced with such an important task as preventing a "War", Robin Wright assigns one replicant to the task.

If we are also to assume that Jared Leto's character felt it so important to find the "child", it is interesting that he - in spite of all his resources - also assigned a single replicant to the task.

That replicant decided to keep track of K. She followed and protected him as he arrived near the orphanage. Thereafter, poof. He's gone. She has no idea, apparently, that he visited the memory maker. She wasn't on board when he decided to go to Las Vegas.

About that orphanage. This miracle child of such great importance - they counterfeited birth information to help hide her. Then, they leave her at an awful orphanage to grow up? Why couldn't she have lived with One-eye? But, now she's safe (as the memory maker). No one in One-eye's army considered that to be a risky location?

The whole Las Vegas scene was dumb. K just parks, and walks aimlessly. But, presto, he walks into the casino housing Harrison Ford. We still don't know how HF is able to survive in that environment. The enemy pilots came in wearing masks, as I recall. Why was K left alive?

K's attack of the three vehicles presumes several things: (1) that K had access to a flying vehicle; (2) that he knew HF was being transported from one place to another and at a particular time; (3) that he knew which vehicle HF was in of the three; (4) that none of the 3 vehicles had any equipment whatsoever with which to detect K's vehicle coming toward them nor could take evasive and defensive actions. Maybe the movie had already gotten too long at that point.

Are there not cameras at the memory maker lab? Would not someone have seen HF waking into it in the last scene to approach the miracle child?

(Wait. Maybe that did happen. Maybe, that's what the next edition of Blade Runner will be about.)

Those are my observations. Like everyone here, I also considered the actress who played Joi to be spectacular.

Was I entertained? Yes. Was it a great movie? No.

Went and rewatched it last night. It just gets better. This is in the debate for my favorite movie so far of the decade (without question the best of the year so far, with Dunkirk the only one springing to mind). It is a very slow roast, but rewatching it, I wouldn’t cut any of it. Definitely a Top 5 sequel of all time and The Godfather Part II of Sci Fi.