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re: Black Panther racial message
Posted on 8/14/18 at 8:19 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 8/14/18 at 8:19 am to SlowFlowPro
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no
panthers are cougars (or mountain lions)
black panthers are legend (and do not exist)
jaguars and leopards can be black, however, but they're not panthers
Ehh...you're a bit incorrect here. While you in correct in saying that a melanistic cougar is a myth, black morph jaguars and leopards are commonly called "black panthers." Pumas have many common names with "panther" being one of them.
After all, jaguars and leopards are in the subfamily Pantherinae and the genus Panthera, while a cougar is in the Felinae subfamily and the Puma genus.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 8:23 am to geauxdaddy72
Probably not the thread to ask this, but being the anal person I am I’ve watched all the Marvel movies in the order they came out in theaters. Just finished Thor Ragnarok. Black Panther is next in line, correct?
Posted on 8/14/18 at 8:32 am to MasonTiger
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. Black Panther is next in line, correct?
You're right on course. Enjoy.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 8:33 am to sicboy
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Seriously. Are we just conditioned to assume that there's an SJW plot everywhere?
Successful black-centric films are racist.
If they bomb, well, there you go. Nobody wants to watch black films.
It's a fairly simple equation.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 8:36 am to SlowFlowPro
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panthers are cougars
I would totally watch a Black Cougar film starring a middle-aged African American hottie on the prowl.

Posted on 8/14/18 at 8:38 am to FLBooGoTigs1
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Well didn't the micheal jordan character want to destroy the white people in the movie? For the peeps in here saying it wasn't anti white. Lol
Holy shite
Posted on 8/14/18 at 8:39 am to Fewer Kilometers
Had dinner with her about 8 months ago. Even better in person.

Posted on 8/14/18 at 8:39 am to geauxdaddy72
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Black Panther
quote:
disappointed that it had a anti whitey tone
FFS man did this surprise you somehow?
Posted on 8/14/18 at 8:39 am to geauxdaddy72
Isn't the real theme that successful black people should help unsuccessful black people try to achieve a better life? Definitely didn't feel like it was anti white.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 8:45 am to geauxdaddy72
I did find it humorous, with all the shite going down in Africa: slavery, warlords, horrible living conditions, Wakanda is finally going to use it's great knowledge and power for good.... helping out the brothermen in war-torn, 3rd world ... Los Angeles. Because that's where it would do the most good 
Posted on 8/14/18 at 8:54 am to OMLandshark
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It’s a bit wrong in its message
How so? The message, as I saw it, was that Killmonger's Malcolm X style political leanings and tendency to violence ultimately failed and that the isolationist, bury the head in the sand mentality, which may be akin to a Booker T. Washington political scheme, was failing. So, T'Challa opened his borders and offered his aid to the downtrodden in an effort to lift up the oppressed through opportunity rather than violent revolution. Not unlike an MLK type political move.
Ultimately, the film criticizes violent upheaval (read: BLM and their ilk) while also criticizing what may be viewed as those with power to change the fate of black people throughout the world as turning a blind eye.
It's actually a pretty even-handed movie. Not sure where the alt-right and lefty are coming from, but would be interested to know.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 8:57 am to FLBooGoTigs1
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Giraffe you got it backwards I believe I hurt your snowflake lightweight arse. Maga
Oh man, what a shocker you posted this! Totally didn't see that coming from your earlier posts!
Also, holy crap it's amazing in your mind you take what the bad guy is trying to accomplish as the message of the movie.
This post was edited on 8/14/18 at 8:59 am
Posted on 8/14/18 at 9:22 am to Rhames
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Isn't the real theme that successful black people should help unsuccessful black people try to achieve a better life? Definitely didn't feel like it was anti white.
That dude takes the idea of the bad guy who gets killed and advances it as the theme of the movie.
The movie itself has competing ideals of that sort of violent conquest in direct competition with the ideal of black people helping other black people succeed through nonviolence and education. Quite literally, nonviolence and education wins out.
So yeah, I have no clue how he thought Killmonger's agenda was the theme of the movie when it and Killmonger get straight up killed off by the movie because of that agenda.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 9:22 am to geauxdaddy72
People look for racial undertones in everything because ... well idk why actually, just insecure or miserable I suppose. It’s set in Africa so obviously certain cultural features are going to be present. They’re also the most technological advanced society on earth which is pretty awesome and creates beautiful imagery. But the villain is black and a white guy plays a huge role in saving T’Challa/Wakanda so I don’t see how that’s anti white.
The movie is very good, just not the epic it’s praised as often due to becoming a cultural phenomenon. Fringe top 10 in MCU for me.
The movie is very good, just not the epic it’s praised as often due to becoming a cultural phenomenon. Fringe top 10 in MCU for me.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 9:25 am to Starchild
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The movie is very good, just not the epic it’s praised as often due to becoming a cultural phenomenon.
Yep. Very good movie, but not as great as the people who love it for its representation want it to be, nor as bad as the people who hate it for its representation want it to be. Very similar to Wonder Woman in that aspect.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 9:30 am to Fewer Kilometers
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Successful black-centric films are racist.
If they bomb, well, there you go. Nobody wants to watch black films
This.
Or:
Successful black films are anti racist and pro black power, while simultaneously working to bring down white hierarchy.
If they bomb, it's because white people are racist and don't want to support black America, because we all know there are at least two Americas, and we're not talking about the continents.
The opposite side of the race baiting coin presented for your reading pleasure.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 9:33 am to Rep520
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So yeah, I have no clue how he thought Killmonger's agenda was the theme of the movie when it and Killmonger get straight up killed off by the movie because of that agenda.
Yeah, the only leg he can stand on is the shaky, falsely constructed leg that a brief reading of headlines of critiques would give you when they say things like, "The Bad Guy in Black Panther Was Right." This is not in the movie and is simplistic journalism at its finest.
This post was edited on 8/14/18 at 9:35 am
Posted on 8/14/18 at 9:34 am to geauxdaddy72
Op should have posted this in PT
Posted on 8/14/18 at 9:34 am to BigAppleTiger
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Yep. Very good movie, but not as great as the people who love it for its representation want it to be, nor as bad as the people who hate it for its representation want it to be. Very similar to Wonder Woman in that aspect.
Except that Black Panther is actually a decent movie with some serious flaws while Wonder Woman is a flaming pile of dogshit.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 9:44 am to LoveThatMoney
So for the people claiming BP to be anti-white, how do you feel about the general lee in Dukes of Hazard?
Because if BP is anti-white, by that token, Dukes is anti-black.
Because if BP is anti-white, by that token, Dukes is anti-black.
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