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Posted on 10/26/16 at 1:37 pm to BlacknGold
The only episode I have really thought was bad was probably S1 E1.
It's just that some of the episodes are so strong they make the others look weak in comparison.
It's not like any episode of this show is Big Bang Theory or Gotham or something.
It's just that some of the episodes are so strong they make the others look weak in comparison.
It's not like any episode of this show is Big Bang Theory or Gotham or something.
Posted on 10/26/16 at 2:09 pm to Eric Nies Grind Time
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It's not like any episode of this show is Big Bang Theory or Gotham or something.
Well frick, of course not. That's like comparing a burger cooked from a guy's trunk in a bar parking lot to a 5 star gourmet burger. Not a fair metric by any means.
I am only comparing Black Mirror to itself. The first two seasons really set the bar high. I didn't need season 3 to be mind blowing or anything, but it took a large step back. Their risks were smaller and ideas not as original.
Posted on 10/26/16 at 2:13 pm to Eric Nies Grind Time
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The only episode I have really thought was bad was probably S1 E1.
there's that one and the one with the puppet. That one was horrendous.
Aside from those 2 I haven't seen any that I would say I dislike or wouldn't watch again.
Posted on 10/26/16 at 2:17 pm to BlacknGold
What kind of bars are you going to? 
This post was edited on 10/26/16 at 2:19 pm
Posted on 10/26/16 at 5:18 pm to WG_Dawg
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3: Similar to the first one, I overall liked the episode but was probably more enthralled with the story instead of the ending. I was super into this goose chase the kid is going on, but at the end he gets outed anyway. I get that it was kind of justice since he was a perv but it kinda of made the rest of the story for naught in a way. Also...I'm not a "we need answers for everythign" kind of person but we don't know shite about who was behind the hack, why they did it, how/why they got so many other people involved, what is their endgame, what do they want, etc.
IMO - It was the Internet Security software people. Removing Malware in real life.
Posted on 10/26/16 at 7:41 pm to WG_Dawg
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I'm not a "we need answers for everythign" kind of person but we don't know shite about who was behind the hack, why they did it, how/why they got so many other people involved, what is their endgame, what do they want, etc.
thats the point though. look at internet hackers today. a lot of them do it for no other reason than just because they can. thats why you see the troll face at the end. random people doing it to random people just for shits and giggles. that is literally already happening now. which is the reason i didnt care for the episode. thats been going on for years now.
Posted on 10/31/16 at 10:55 am to Josh Fenderman
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'm having a tough time with the way this one ended. Did anybody else struggle with why Kelly made the decision she made? Don't get me wrong, I liked that it was such a change with a happy ending, and overall it felt like a great episode to me. I'm just having a hard time understanding why she made such a drastic change in what she wanted to do. After 40 years of knowing she would just die, she changed her mind to go be with someone she just met for eternity?
Because she stopped punishing herself and allowed herself to be happy. Her options were either start anew with Yorkie, or go off to the Nothing and cease to exist. She chose to continue to exist and allow herself to be happy, and stop punishing herself for a death she wasn't responsible for. It's about grief.
If we look at the Quagmire, people are punishing themselves in order to feel anything, even if that feeling is pain. It's much along the idea that hell is what you make it. This could be heaven or hell, but you have the choice to make it either. And Kelly finally decides that instead of choosing to keep punishing herself, she can have heaven and be happy again.
I thought it was a beautiful hour of television, and one of the best things I've ever seen.
Posted on 10/31/16 at 1:16 pm to The Egg
Ep 1 I didn't finish it. HAs BDH always been that thick?
Ep 2 Loved it
Ep 3 Weirded me out
Ep 4 I didn't finish it
Ep 5 Okay...I can see this happening one day
Ep 6 Waiting to watch until I force myself to finish 1 and 4.
Overall meh for me so far. The Entire History of You and 15 Million Merits are absolutely unforgettable to me. I'm not sure if any of the Season 3 episodes rises to that level. Time will tell.
Ep 2 Loved it
Ep 3 Weirded me out
Ep 4 I didn't finish it
Ep 5 Okay...I can see this happening one day
Ep 6 Waiting to watch until I force myself to finish 1 and 4.
Overall meh for me so far. The Entire History of You and 15 Million Merits are absolutely unforgettable to me. I'm not sure if any of the Season 3 episodes rises to that level. Time will tell.
Posted on 10/31/16 at 1:50 pm to Baloo
That helps
Agreed
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I thought it was a beautiful hour of television, and one of the best things I've ever seen.
Agreed
Posted on 10/31/16 at 1:51 pm to LsuNav
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HAs BDH always been that thick?
Nope. Pretty sure she's had a couple kids.
IWSHI
Posted on 11/1/16 at 2:29 pm to Baloo
Baloo and others....help me understand San Junipero. I feel like an intro to film class in high school can probably understand it but sometimes I have trouble wrapping my brain around stuff like this.
-As teenagers, kelly and glasses (can't remember other main characters name) hit it off and have a fling.
-In real life, they go their separate ways in their 20s. Kelly marries a man and has a child.
-Glasses, still in her early 20s, gets in an accident and becomes comatose where she remains for 40 years
Am I right so far?
-In teh real world, when you die you either go into the unknown/nothingness, or you join a program that lets your consciousness live for eternity, in this case in San Junipero
-You can try it out for a trial period for a limited amount of time per day/week.
-Glasses joins the trial program. This is most of the episode in SJ where they are interacting as youngsters. In reality Glasses is just laying in her hospital bed.
-40 years after their fling, both now old, Kelly visits a dying Glasses and signs off so she can pass and join San Junipero forever with Kelly.
-But we also see that Kelly does not want this based on the life her husband and her had together.
-However, the husand wants no part of this program and decided to pass into the unknown to follow their dead daughter.
So I'm struggling to understand the role each of their consciousness plays in this thing. I know it's a nice tidy ending since they both elect to go into the program forever and are housed in the database. But what if Kelly decided not to do that and go into the nothingess with her husband...would Glasses' eternity just be in SJ by herself without Kelly? All through the episode when kelly/glasses are together in SJ it's due (I'm assuming) to them both being "hooked up" to the program at the same time. If one is hooked up and the other isn't are they just there alone?
-As teenagers, kelly and glasses (can't remember other main characters name) hit it off and have a fling.
-In real life, they go their separate ways in their 20s. Kelly marries a man and has a child.
-Glasses, still in her early 20s, gets in an accident and becomes comatose where she remains for 40 years
Am I right so far?
-In teh real world, when you die you either go into the unknown/nothingness, or you join a program that lets your consciousness live for eternity, in this case in San Junipero
-You can try it out for a trial period for a limited amount of time per day/week.
-Glasses joins the trial program. This is most of the episode in SJ where they are interacting as youngsters. In reality Glasses is just laying in her hospital bed.
-40 years after their fling, both now old, Kelly visits a dying Glasses and signs off so she can pass and join San Junipero forever with Kelly.
-But we also see that Kelly does not want this based on the life her husband and her had together.
-However, the husand wants no part of this program and decided to pass into the unknown to follow their dead daughter.
So I'm struggling to understand the role each of their consciousness plays in this thing. I know it's a nice tidy ending since they both elect to go into the program forever and are housed in the database. But what if Kelly decided not to do that and go into the nothingess with her husband...would Glasses' eternity just be in SJ by herself without Kelly? All through the episode when kelly/glasses are together in SJ it's due (I'm assuming) to them both being "hooked up" to the program at the same time. If one is hooked up and the other isn't are they just there alone?
Posted on 11/1/16 at 2:37 pm to WG_Dawg
Watched S3E1 last night. Meh. It wasn't bad, nad I can see something similar to that eventually happening (social ratings and people flipping out over caring about them), but all in all it wasn't great. Decent start to the new season though, so I'm good with it.
Interested to see where the remainder of the season takes me.
Interested to see where the remainder of the season takes me.
Posted on 11/1/16 at 2:39 pm to CocomoLSU
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CocomoLSU
Glad you're getting caught up. I loved the futuristic element of Nosedive, seemed like classic black mirror, but I wasn't in love wiht the ending. Fell a bit flat for me.
I think you'll really like episode 2.
Posted on 11/1/16 at 2:53 pm to WG_Dawg
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-As teenagers, kelly and glasses (can't remember other main characters name) hit it off and have a fling.
-In real life, they go their separate ways in their 20s. Kelly marries a man and has a child.
-Glasses, still in her early 20s, gets in an accident and becomes comatose where she remains for 40 years
I think the problem with your theory here is that they never actually met in real life until you see they do when they are both old. They both met in the program. The way I understood it, it's a program that takes your consciousness and puts it in a "heaven"-like program. You pick the decade you want to go to.
Yorkie had just started using it because she was about to move on. She went into a coma from an accident when she was 20 or so. It's interesting when you go back and rewatch because everything Yorkie says in the program makes sense from someone who is still mentally a 20 year old. Kelly is matured and had lived a full life.
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-In teh real world, when you die you either go into the unknown/nothingness, or you join a program that lets your consciousness live for eternity, in this case in San Junipero -You can try it out for a trial period for a limited amount of time per day/week
Yes, that's the way I took it.
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-Glasses joins the trial program. This is most of the episode in SJ where they are interacting as youngsters. In reality Glasses is just laying in her hospital bed.
Yes
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-40 years after their fling, both now old, Kelly visits a dying Glasses and signs off so she can pass and join San Junipero forever with Kelly.
I didn't see this as 40 years later. I think it was just a few weeks later, actually. They can try the program out for a few hours a week. The guy Yorkie was going to "marry" explains this I think.
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-But we also see that Kelly does not want this based on the life her husband and her had together.
-However, the husand wants no part of this program and decided to pass into the unknown to follow their dead daughter.
The husband and Kelly's daughter had passed an unknown amount of time before this episode started.
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But what if Kelly decided not to do that and go into the nothingess with her husband...would Glasses' eternity just be in SJ by herself without Kelly? All through the episode when kelly/glasses are together in SJ it's due (I'm assuming) to them both being "hooked up" to the program at the same time. If one is hooked up and the other isn't are they just there alone?
Yorkie would probably be spending a lot of her time in Quagmire unless she met someone else to spend eternity with
tl;dr- I think what you are missing is that they never met before Yorkie had an accident. They both met when they were old, in the program
Posted on 11/1/16 at 3:08 pm to Josh Fenderman
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I think what you are missing is that they never met before Yorkie had an accident.
holy crap I COMPLETELY missed this. Dang.
So their whole lesbian fling and experimentation as youngsters was just a random event that happened between both of their consioucnesses while they are both in their IRL 60s and hooked up to the program?
Posted on 11/1/16 at 3:30 pm to WG_Dawg
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So their whole lesbian fling and experimentation as youngsters was just a random event that happened between both of their consioucnesses while they are both in their IRL 60s and hooked up to the program?
Yes, because San Junipero is a program where instead of dying, you can upload your consciousness and live young forever. Queue "Heaven Is a Place on Earth"
Posted on 11/1/16 at 3:33 pm to Josh Fenderman
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San Junipero is a program where instead of dying, you can upload your consciousness and live young forever. Queue "Heaven Is a Place on Earth"
Right I got that, but they also mentioned "nostalgia" many times. They also said in yorkie's room that what caused her accident was when she was running away after her parents got mad about her coming out.
Posted on 11/1/16 at 3:46 pm to WG_Dawg
But I don't think that means they hooked up in real life in their 20s. Yorkie told Kelly in the program that she had never been with anyone before her. She had the car crash before she ever got a chance.
Posted on 11/1/16 at 3:55 pm to Josh Fenderman
I guess that makes sense now. Would also make sense how they exchange where they live, that actually makes perfect sense now.
Maybe I need to rewatch. The whole time I thought the 2 of them had IRL known each other for decades.
Maybe I need to rewatch. The whole time I thought the 2 of them had IRL known each other for decades.
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