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re: Binged "Wild Wild Country" over the weekend.

Posted on 4/12/18 at 9:05 am to
Posted by Itismemc
LA
Member since Nov 2008
4794 posts
Posted on 4/12/18 at 9:05 am to
The whole time all I could think is that if this happened today, I imagine the tables would be completely turned.

The old locals were the highlight of the film.
The stars were the hats, they had some quality vintage lids.
Posted by arp0925
Member since Nov 2016
1323 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 3:21 pm to
Pretty good documentary. I vaguely had heard about this group but didn’t know the whole story.

One thing I have started pondering is what separates a cult from a religion? Anyone have any answers to this.
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 4/16/18 at 12:12 pm to
Finally watched this. Great doc, which really made an effort to get you inside the headspace of a cult member, which was an interesting tact. I wish they would have had more rank and file members and not just the leaders for interviews. I wonder what it was like being the dude working the mess hall or the sanitation crew.

What's so fascinating about the mayor/lawyer is that he is obviously a bright guy, he actually beat the feds in the first immigration case and took a settlement in the "biggest immigration fraud case in history" that involved no jail time or fines. That's some A-plus legal work he pulled off. But at the same time, he's still in the thrall of a clear charlaton, nearly three decades after the con man died. He just can't admit to himself it was a con and he got took.

Which is why the Australian doctor is such a pivotal figure for the documentary. She's the only one who has come to terms with the fact she was taken in and, to use the expression, drank the kool aid. As she mentioned, she crossed a line (the attempted murder), and it woke her up.

Oh, and Sheela is a sociopath. She's almost entirely amoral, but I found her to be the most fascinating figure. None of it happens without her, and its not surprise everything fell apart soon after she left. She was the pragmatic brains behind it all, who could do the nitty gritty of running not just a cult, but a town.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476634 posts
Posted on 5/17/18 at 5:57 am to
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Which is why the Australian doctor is such a pivotal figure for the documentary. She's the only one who has come to terms with the fact she was taken in and, to use the expression, drank the kool aid. As she mentioned, she crossed a line (the attempted murder), and it woke her up.

well to be fair, she's selling a book. she even used the title of the book in one of her last interviews
Posted by Sayre
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Nov 2011
5754 posts
Posted on 6/26/18 at 2:20 pm to
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but I felt like they just glossed over the cult leader and his funding for the operation


It amazes me how someone can watch something and not see something that was pretty well explained and never was in question. Did you not see all the book and mercchandise sales, nor all the businesses they owned around the world like the restaurants, hotels, dance clubs, etc?
Posted by Sayre
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Nov 2011
5754 posts
Posted on 6/26/18 at 2:23 pm to
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That scene where the guy snuck the camera in during the orgy blew my mind. That ish is something I figured I'd see at the looney bin.


That wasn't an orgy. If you had been paying attention to the first episode, you'd have remembered that what was depicted in that video was one of the 4 steps, the last one being the quiet step that they also showed in the hidden video.

Holy shite, not only is reading comprehension a dying art, but even visual comprehension of what you've seen is not a skill a lot of people have. They allow their innate biases to cloud their senses.
This post was edited on 6/26/18 at 2:24 pm
Posted by Sayre
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Nov 2011
5754 posts
Posted on 6/26/18 at 2:31 pm to
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That was a county issue. Antelope had no control over an unincorporated area 20 miles away from them. And the city acted like a victim because the cult retaliated against them for county and state issues.



And here's more of that.

If you had been paying attention, you'd remember that Antelope denied the sannysains a business permit for their mail order operation, which is what prompted them to start buying up the land.
Posted by Sayre
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Nov 2011
5754 posts
Posted on 6/26/18 at 2:33 pm to
A cult is a religion in its infancy. A religion is a cult that has stood the test of time.?
Posted by DestrehanTiger
Houston, TX by way of Louisiana
Member since Nov 2005
13426 posts
Posted on 6/26/18 at 3:25 pm to
Let me post here to break up Sayre just responding to every post of a 3 page thread. I'd just like to say that even if you don't agree with Sheela and the lawyer, they were extremely entertaining in this doc. Sheela was entertaining because I kind of liked her at the beginning. She was a hard-nosed lady getting her job done. Then, you come to the realization, "Oh, this woman is a lunatic."

I really liked the lawyer even if he was brainwashed by everything. He was eloquent and was a great insight into the legal battles.
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