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Binged "Wild Wild Country" over the weekend.

Posted on 4/2/18 at 10:27 am
Posted by Bout_Dat_Lyfe
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 4/2/18 at 10:27 am
It was pretty interesting, but I felt like they just glossed over the cult leader and his funding for the operation. They took it too easy on those clowns, IMO. Also, the attorney for the cult was by far the most annoying person to me; he pretended to be so knowledgeable about constitutional law, but couldn't see his brainwashing was preventing him from seeing the truth of what he was involved in. He thought he was more intelligent and rational than he was. I would give a 7/10, they dind't probe the cult as much as they should have.
Posted by Civildawg
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Posted on 4/2/18 at 10:33 am to
That was my biggest questions as well. They basically said one sentence on the funding and nothing else.
Posted by crazyLSUstudent
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Posted on 4/2/18 at 10:59 am to
Sheela was red pilled at the end and called them out about the duping of rich dumb Europeans, Americans, and Australians. But I do think a good bit of money was coming from the book sales and other licensed merchandise
Posted by PortCityTiger24
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Posted on 4/2/18 at 11:20 am to
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Sheela was red pilled at the end and called them out about the duping of rich dumb Europeans, Americans, and Australians.


She knew what was going on all along, she just enjoyed the power.
Posted by Bout_Dat_Lyfe
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 4/2/18 at 12:06 pm to
Yeah, she saw that the bullshite artist cult leader was going to give more power to the rich Hollywood people and she basically threw a childish fit because she saw her influence shrinking. I wouldn't say she was at all red-pilled or finally realized what a scam it was, she acted in her own fanatical self interest.
Posted by crazyLSUstudent
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Posted on 4/2/18 at 12:10 pm to
Absolutely. She is lucky her did not spend more time in jail
Posted by EyeTwentyNole
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Posted on 4/2/18 at 1:01 pm to
I thought it was funny how they presented Jane Stork as a sweet little Australian lady the whole time then at the end you find out she tried to murder the doctor
Posted by Billy Mays
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 4/2/18 at 3:56 pm to
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It was pretty interesting, but I felt like they just glossed over the cult leader and his funding for the operation


I think they said in one of the early episodes that the followers donated most of their money and possessions to the movement... get enough wealthy people together and I can see where they got their starting funds.
Posted by tigger1
Member since Mar 2005
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Posted on 4/2/18 at 4:30 pm to
Look the show left out so much about this cult, first on why it really came to America. The show did not show the real Osho in a real light and his quotes will tell you all you need to know.

The largest bioterror attack in American history was carried out by this group.


The system at the cult was two tier, the workers who knew near nothing and the leader class.


Ma Anand Sheela should still be under the jail and many in the leadership should be as well.
This post was edited on 4/2/18 at 4:44 pm
Posted by geauxjo
Gonzales, LA
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 4/2/18 at 5:12 pm to
I thought our nations attitude towards the cult as displayed by interviews with normal citizens, news and talk show clips, and political interviews- all from that time frame- gave a unique view of how as a whole our nation was against this cult. I just wonder how a similar movement would be received in the present. I just believe a lot more segments of our society would be livid if the same kind of attitudes were projected towards a group like this today- especially the media and Oprah-types.
Posted by Captain Crown
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 4/2/18 at 5:21 pm to
That was some of the craziest shite I have ever seen. Sheela was bat shite
Posted by crazyLSUstudent
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Posted on 4/2/18 at 5:37 pm to
Agreed. The documentary did seem to be pretty biased towards the cult. I still feel like I don't know the whole story.
Posted by Pectus
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Posted on 4/2/18 at 6:04 pm to
I didn't like the mayor that let them walk all over the townsfolk. She basically cried every time she was shown on screen.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 4/2/18 at 6:14 pm to
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Agreed. The documentary did seem to be pretty biased towards the cult. I still feel like I don't know the whole story.

It was definitely biased. Leaving the hotel bombing open-ended, and allowing the audience, maybe even encouraging the audience, to assume it was done by local Oregonians, shifted a significant amount of the narrative in their favor. It's too large of an omission to have been made unintentionally.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
116164 posts
Posted on 4/2/18 at 6:26 pm to
I think you inately assume a lot of things about the cult going into the documentary. The best part about this documentary is IMO that they try to break you if those assumptions to get as close to an unbiased view of the situation as possible.

You may have felt they told the cults side more so than the townsfolk side but IMO that’s more effective storytelling in this case because their side hasn’t actually been told before. The townsfolk side is what you can mostly read online, seeing the critical pillars of the movement speak on it in present day allows for a really balanced narrative, or atleast closer to a balanced narrative that what was already out there. They wove that line pretty neatly, as soon as they would make one side seem like a shite head, they would flip it and show the other angle of the same plot and let you decide what side you believe

And while obviously the lawyer had a major bias, I think he did make some very sound legal arguments throughout the documentary that showed some of the major flaws in how the US government handled the situation
Posted by northshorebamaman
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Posted on 4/2/18 at 6:33 pm to
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They wove that line pretty neatly, as soon as they would make one side seem like a shite head, they would flip it and show the other angle of the same plot and let you decide what side you believe

They downplayed the actions of the cult and tried to make it appear that Oregonians blew up the hotel.

The fact that they made both sides appear equally responsible is just more evidence of bias because the things the cult did (like staging the largest bio-attack in American history, and importing, drugging, and releasing homeless people) completely eclipsed any actions by the townspeople.
This post was edited on 4/2/18 at 6:37 pm
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 4/2/18 at 7:08 pm to
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The fact that they made both sides appear equally responsible is just more evidence of bias because the things the cult did (like staging the largest bio-attack in American history, and importing, drugging, and releasing homeless people) completely eclipsed any actions by the townspeople.


The story wouldn’t be very interesting if it didn’t show a new perspective other than the one we already knew

And I don’t think they pardoned the cult at all, and they really showed what it had become whenever the politics got past the point of just the small town and into Wasco County.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 4/2/18 at 7:14 pm to
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The story wouldn’t be very interesting if it didn’t show a new perspective other than the one we already knew

I'd never heard of this at all and in the previous threads, most people said they hadn't either.

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And I don’t think they pardoned the cult at all, and they really showed what it had become whenever the politics got past the point of just the small town and into Wasco County.


I didn't say they pardoned them. I said that treating the actions of the townspeople as if it was anywhere near the scale of the cult was evidence of bias.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 4/2/18 at 8:10 pm to
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said that treating the actions of the townspeople as if it was anywhere near the scale of the cult was evidence of bias.


I disagree that they did this. I think they showed the pattern of escalation from the cult in response to an action from the townspeople but I don’t think they ever gave me the impression they said they acted rationally in their reactions

And the actual towns people played a small part in the overall story. Once they controlled the city the story turned into the cult vs state and federal officials
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 4/2/18 at 8:22 pm to
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I think they showed the pattern of escalation from the cult in response to an action from the townspeople

Which action are you referring to?
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