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Posted on 8/17/21 at 8:41 am to
Posted by AUriptide
Member since Aug 2009
7459 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 8:41 am to
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Kys HOH is a waste of a week if he gets HOH AND a 2nd veto and lands on taking out….Britni? Lame man.


Not a waste if it furthers the cause…


Yep, and if they keep thinking "She is no threat", before you know it she'll get pulled to the final three due to no actions of her own. Then the final winner picks her to go to finals since she sucked the whole time and has no chance.

She doesn't deserve to be in there and should have already been gone.
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
38261 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 8:49 am to
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She doesn't deserve to be in there and should have already been gone.



She’s been up there 3 times already, they should’ve done it then.
Posted by AUriptide
Member since Aug 2009
7459 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 8:54 am to
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She’s been up there 3 times already, they should’ve done it then.


Agree
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
62263 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 10:02 am to
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I actually think Claire is a good player who’s flying waaay under the radar before now. Reminds me a lot of Kasey from 19 (even though she won like 3-4 comps toward the very end)



Except she has absolutely zero chance to win. None. The Cookout has already made it to jury. There's literally no possible way for a non Cookout member to win. It is decided. They have the majority votes locked up. None of them will vote for someone else...for the Culture...

So it really doesn't matter if it's Claire or Britni or Derek X that gets voted out. None of them will win.
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
16257 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 10:48 am to
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I don’t see how the cookout lasts at this point. Big D wants to strangle Tiffany.

You severely underestimate how much the CO players value the cause over their own personal games. You have Tiff and Hannah offering up there closest allies to go within the next couple of weeks. When Ky put up Claire, Tiff didn't even put up a fight for it. If it wasn't for DX getting sketched out, she'd be gone. Hannah was talking to the camera's just last night saying she wants DX gone within the next two weeks because he's the most dangerous person for the CO. Although she fluctuates on how soon she wants him to go. She went from wanting him out next week, to wanting him to stick around for at least 3 more weeks, to now wanting him out in at least 2 weeks. But either way, she wants him out before any CO members.

Tiff and Hannah have to know that once DX (and to a lesser extent Claire) are gone, then they basically won't be able to take out Xavier or Ky unless they win a luck based HOH. Every member of the CO are dead set on getting all of the CO members to final 6 no matter what because of the cause, even though it is a game losing scenario individually for all of them except Xavier and Ky because those two can actually win comps. Tiff for sure will be DOA because she won't have any allies left but Hannah. Hannah might be able to convince Xavier to take her to final 2, but I'm sure his ideal F2 is with Big D (who is basically the Victoria of this season), and even if he did decide to take her to final 2 I think he'd easily beat her. And Ky has pissed a lot of them off this week with his HOH reign, but at least he can win comps.

So basically Tiff, Hannah, and to a certain extent Ky are throwing their games away for the cause, which they all 100% believe is more important to them than actually winning the game for themselves.
This post was edited on 8/17/21 at 10:51 am
Posted by JDPndahizzy
JDP
Member since Nov 2013
6966 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 11:53 am to
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You severely underestimate how much the CO players value the cause over their own personal games.

Agree. A CO member will definitely win BB23.. Questions is, which one? I think once DX is out, KY and X will basically take turns winning HOH and making final 3 with a weaker female CO player that they kept around for exactly that reason... Kinda sux that it is already determined..
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
16257 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 1:49 pm to
I will be absolutely shocked if X doesn't win this season.
Posted by LSUtigerfan22
Gonzales
Member since Mar 2007
1021 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 1:57 pm to
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I will be absolutely shocked if X doesn't win this season.


Me too
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
14071 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 2:41 pm to
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I will be absolutely shocked if X doesn't win this season.


He just proposed a plan to nom Tiff and Claire and backdoor DX. If that works, he has the game locked up.
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
16257 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 3:45 pm to
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He just proposed a plan to nom Tiff and Claire and backdoor DX. If that works, he has the game locked up.

Yep, he proposed that plan to Tiff, and Tiff didn't even put up a fight about it. Then she asked if Alyssa and SB will be the last ones to go, and X said yes. Why in the hell would she be ok with letting X and Ky bring their people to final 8? She's just handing them the game. She had such a promising beginning to the game, and now appears to have given up her own game.
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
14071 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 3:51 pm to
Hannah and Tiffany scrambling right now because Claire and DX are pushing getting out DF. They know they are exposed if they can't talk them out of it. They are also exposed because no logical argument can be made for why keeping DF is a better game move.
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
16257 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 4:29 pm to
All they have to do is say that they want to keep Big D because he's a Victoria, and won't win a single comp. That is a valid reason. If I were them I wouldn't even worry about DX and Claire wanting get Big D out, and just say the votes aren't there because no one is threatened by Big D.

Tiff and Claire were going through their eviction order, and it started out with Tiff saying that DX and then Claire have to go. Then they decided that Claire should go first because she might figure things out before DX. Then they finally realized that if Alyssa and SB are left neither will go after each other and will go after CO members, and even worse SB will go after Tiff and Alyssa will go after Hannah. But if SB goes then Alyssa and DX might still go after each other. But I think they realized that they are in the most danger out of the CO if the final 2 non-CO are Alyssa and SB. But their talk got interrupted so I'm not sure if they fully realized it, or if the did, if they are still willing to let DX go next week for the sake of the CO.
This post was edited on 8/17/21 at 4:30 pm
Posted by DivotBreath
On the course
Member since Oct 2007
3726 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 8:24 pm to
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There's literally no possible way for a non Cookout member to win.


Not true, but the path would involve a ton of luck and a reveal of the CO plan. You have 4 non CO members (DX, Alyssa, Claire, SB and you could add Britni it the pulled a miracle and voted out DF). If the non CO members alternated winning HOH and veto, or strategically use powers they win, they can run the table if they keep a non CO member off the block until they flip the numbers. If there are two CO members on the block, they no longer have a clear path.

It would take DX or SB to figure it out and convince others, and that is unlikely, but you can’t say that there is no possible way.
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
62263 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 8:34 pm to
Keep hope alive.
Posted by Saintsisit
Member since Jan 2013
5257 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 10:14 pm to
There is no hope.
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
37406 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 10:31 pm to
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would take DX or SB to figure it out and convince others, and that is unlikely, but you can’t say that there is no possible way.



How can they “figure it out” when they can’t even talk about it?

It would be social suicide to say “do you think all the black people are working together?” even if they think it’s true

And then to alternate only putting black people up multiple weeks in a row? fricking laughable

The show is broken (but honestly it’s a “social experiment” so our society broke it)
This post was edited on 8/18/21 at 9:26 am
Posted by JDPndahizzy
JDP
Member since Nov 2013
6966 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 7:56 am to
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How can they “figure it out” when they can’t even talk about it?

It would be social suicide to say “do you think all the black people are working together?” even if they think it’s true

And then to alternate only putting black people up multiple weeks in a row? fricking laughable

The show is broken



Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
14071 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 9:36 am to
Oh boy it might be happening!!!

DX and Claire are pretty positive they have the votes to keep Britney. Hannah and Tiffany are really screwed if they go along because those 4 plus Azah saying she is throwing her a pity vote means they have the votes to get DF out. Hannah made a comment about only being comfortable doing it if Alyssa and X agree was a misstep because those two votes aren't needed.

X and DX getting into it last night may be a great thing for the non-CO members.

DX or Claire winning HOH this week will save the season.
Posted by JDPndahizzy
JDP
Member since Nov 2013
6966 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:18 am to
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Oh boy it might be happening!!!

DX and Claire are pretty positive they have the votes to keep Britney. Hannah and Tiffany are really screwed if they go along because those 4 plus Azah saying she is throwing her a pity vote means they have the votes to get DF out. Hannah made a comment about only being comfortable doing it if Alyssa and X agree was a misstep because those two votes aren't needed.

X and DX getting into it last night may be a great thing for the non-CO members.

DX or Claire winning HOH this week will save the season.


God I hope so!!!!!!!
Posted by JDPndahizzy
JDP
Member since Nov 2013
6966 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 2:48 pm to
Update on the above??? Anyone with feeds??
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