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re: Big Brother Season 23 Thread - LIVE Premiere July 7th 8pm ET - CBS
Posted on 8/5/21 at 7:29 pm to AUriptide
Posted on 8/5/21 at 7:29 pm to AUriptide
I’m not saying they’re racist at all, but you certainly can’t say that the cookout was formed based off race.
Regardless unless someone wakes up and figures them out it’s going to be a very boring season because the cookout will control the house every single week.
Regardless unless someone wakes up and figures them out it’s going to be a very boring season because the cookout will control the house every single week.
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Posted on 8/5/21 at 7:44 pm to schwartzy
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The cookout alliance is racist by nature.
It’s not an actual alliance. It’s just a away for them to openly agree to not vote out black people without saying “black people”. Cookout just means black people. They aren’t strategizing or working the game together. It’s just an agreement based on race and they are calling it “the cookout”. I mean the fricking name is based on “oh they can come to the barbecue/cookout” which is said about non-blacks that get the stamp of approval.
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the rest of the house, including Christian, is as blind as a bat
They all see it. But they aren’t allowed to call it out. Too scared.
This post was edited on 8/5/21 at 7:46 pm
Posted on 8/5/21 at 7:57 pm to Hester Carries
There are 6 cookout members left and 6 other houseguests. There is not a scenario remaining where the cookout do not control the numbers until the final 6. Unless they turn on each other.
But if they stick together….gonna be a snooze fest more than it already has been.
But if they stick together….gonna be a snooze fest more than it already has been.
Posted on 8/5/21 at 7:58 pm to Hester Carries
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They all see it. But they aren’t allowed to call it out. Too scared.
this. the jury house will be stacked with players who have agreed to vote based on skin color since week 1. it's a bullshite season.
can you even begin to imagine if one of the targeted players dared to question what's blatantly and obviously going on?
last season, Big Brother Woke-ism had one of the best players (Tyler) in tears and ready to quit the show / sacrifice himself because Da'Vonne and Bayleigh got put on the block (for being terrible players). this season, CBS stepped in and made sure to cast the house appropriately in order to get the results the want.
This post was edited on 8/5/21 at 8:08 pm
Posted on 8/5/21 at 8:14 pm to Hester Carries
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It’s not an actual alliance.
It's not an alliance, it's a "cause". That is the word that they have used at various times. And if all 6 make it into jury (which looks very likely), then a member of the Cookout will be assured of winning. If somehow a non-Cookout member were able to somehow make it to final two (they would basically have to win out every comp from final 7 or 8), then the other 5 Cookout member would vote for the Cookout member because of how much hell they'd get for "betraying the cause". The social ramifications will not allow any of them to vote for the person they think is most deserving, which sucks.
I just feel sorry for DerekX because he is the true minority in the house, but is the wrong kind of POC. I would be pissed if I were him.
Posted on 8/5/21 at 9:07 pm to Bamatab
Y’all 2 both said it better than anyone else could have. They’re keeping each other not even on anything based on game.
And it will directly skew the ultimate winner.
And it will directly skew the ultimate winner.
Posted on 8/5/21 at 9:25 pm to Bluegrass_Cat
Derek X won HOH
Posted on 8/5/21 at 9:25 pm to Bluegrass_Cat
Derek X wins HOH
Posted on 8/5/21 at 9:26 pm to Bluegrass_Cat
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They’re keeping each other not even on anything based on game.
You just agreed with this:
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And if all 6 make it into jury (which looks very likely), then a member of the Cookout will be assured of winning. If somehow a non-Cookout member were able to somehow make it to final two (they would basically have to win out every comp from final 7 or 8), then the other 5 Cookout member would vote for the Cookout member because of how much hell they'd get for "betraying the cause".
How is that not game related???
It literally guarantees them F6 and that one will win even if somehow someone else makes it to F2 against one of them.
How upset yall are that these guys pulled off a great plan is hilarious to me
Posted on 8/5/21 at 9:27 pm to Hester Carries
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the rest of the house, including Christian, is as blind as a bat
They all see it. But they aren’t allowed to call it out. Too scared.
No they don’t
Posted on 8/5/21 at 9:41 pm to Tiger Voodoo
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How is that not game related???
It literally guarantees them F6 and that one will win even if somehow someone else makes it to F2 against one of them.
It doesn't guarantee them F6, it just guarantees that one of the 6 wins at the end. All it takes is for a non-Cookout member to win one HOH and put up 2 Cookout members.
But the goal should be for each player to try and win the $750,000, not to try to make sure a black person wins (if a group of 6 white people did that heads would explode). Tiffany & Kyland have both said that it would be better for their individual games to not have to take the Cookout to F6, and said to the cameras that they are sacrificing their individual games for the cause.
I have said before that if Tiff or Ky win in the end, then they deserve the win because they have been running the house since the beginning. Even X would be an acceptable winner. But if BigD, Azah, or even Hannah wins, then that would be a shame imo.
Posted on 8/5/21 at 9:49 pm to Bamatab
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It doesn't guarantee them F6, it just guarantees that one of the 6 wins at the end
Right, I shouldn’t have said guarantee, obviously no guarantees this far out, but the plan that Tiffany laid out means they will always have the ear of the non cookout HOH to try to sway their nominations.
No plan for a F6 would be fail safe, but it all but guarantees they make jury AND that one of them actually wins the game. That’s about as good a plan as any I’ve ever seen on the show.
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Tiffany & Kyland have both said that it would be better for their individual games to not have to take the Cookout to F6, and said to the cameras that they are sacrificing their individual games for the cause.
I’m not sure about Kyland, but I know Tiffany has 100% said while she wants the cookout in F6 she would NOT sacrifice her own game to make that happen, so I don’t know where you got that from.
This post was edited on 8/5/21 at 9:58 pm
Posted on 8/5/21 at 10:02 pm to Tiger Voodoo
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but I know Tiffany has 100% said while she wants the cookout in F6 she would NOT sacrifice her own game to make that happen, so I don’t know where you got that from.
There was a point last week that Tiff was ready to jump the Cookout ship, had a talk with the cameras that night saying she may make people made about it, then the next morning she woke up with an "epiphany" she had in bed over night with her Cookout F6 plan. It was really weird. But since then she has said to the cameras that taking the Cookout to F6 may not be the best for her game, but she realized that she can't go against it. She has said that she wishes she could ride with Claire and DerekX, but she can't go against the Cookout. She has even been talking about cutting Claire real soon.
This post was edited on 8/5/21 at 10:03 pm
Posted on 8/5/21 at 10:27 pm to Bamatab
Gotcha, I’ve mostly stopped following feeds because it’s all been pretty boring.
If Tiff thinks Ky is closer with the jury members, I believe she’ll try to take a shot. The money is too important to her.
I could see Ky seeing the cause as paramount.
We’ll see how it goes, but I’m just curious to see at what point it becomes clear to the others. Whitney clearly had NO CLUE, and Julie misled her about the Royal Flush being the alliance controlling the game. Given that Christian was HOH and win Veto I guess that makes sense.
But when players like SB and Claire go Julie’s interviews are going to get much more awkward
If Tiff thinks Ky is closer with the jury members, I believe she’ll try to take a shot. The money is too important to her.
I could see Ky seeing the cause as paramount.
We’ll see how it goes, but I’m just curious to see at what point it becomes clear to the others. Whitney clearly had NO CLUE, and Julie misled her about the Royal Flush being the alliance controlling the game. Given that Christian was HOH and win Veto I guess that makes sense.
But when players like SB and Claire go Julie’s interviews are going to get much more awkward
Posted on 8/5/21 at 10:29 pm to Bamatab
The cookout “cause” is not what this game is about. Anyone in this game can be nominated for any reason. To not vote out someone because they’re black is exactly what’s ruining this game because the game aspect is being taken out. It’s all about SJW, reparations, and justice.
At some point we just need to quit watching if this is what the game is coming to. We want to see blindsides and individual decisions based on game, not unanimous decisions on what the house wants or what is “politically correct.”
At some point we just need to quit watching if this is what the game is coming to. We want to see blindsides and individual decisions based on game, not unanimous decisions on what the house wants or what is “politically correct.”
Posted on 8/5/21 at 10:37 pm to schwartzy
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Anyone in this game can be nominated for any reason.
Well apparently not ANY reason for some of yall.
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individual decisions based on game
Explain to me how any of the cookout’s individual games would be strengthened by going with a different alliance.
What moves would benefit them individually?
Posted on 8/6/21 at 4:51 am to Hester Carries
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Cookout just means black people. They aren’t strategizing or working the game together
Oh look, it was Thursday and it's the same old BS as every week.
Do you even watch the show at all? They discussed an elaborate plan to ensure the safety of their alliance all the way to the final 6. Will it work? Who knows. But to say they aren't strategizing and playing the game well is just dumb.
If this wasn't an alliance with black people, some of you would be comparing it to the greatest alliances of all time.
Posted on 8/6/21 at 5:17 am to Hold That Tiger 10
Derek X HOH.
Tiff is 100% in his head and running it. Noms will be Brit and SB
Once again DF and Azah’s names don’t even come up.
Tiff spent the whole night misting DX on why it should be Brit and SB (a great case btw saying by using SB if Christian wins Veto he won’t use it because he’ll know Alyssa could go up) while Ky spent the night misting SB on how they were fine. When she is nominated, Ky will act totally shocked leading SB to tell Christian and Alyssa that he is someone they can trust and she will also keep him informed of any plans during the week to shift the noms or votes.
So, all according to the PLAN.
DX never even considered that this plan should blow up his game with Christian and Alyssa because it SHOULD show them that Whitney was absolutely truthful when telling them the whole house wants to target a King next, but again Christian is an absolute moron who still won’t see it because all he cares about it is him and Alyssa. When the idea of Sarah as a pawn comes up they should immediately say why not just put up two Jokers, but of course they won’t because they are STUPID. SB will make this argument to DX so we’ll see how he responds to it, and also if Alyssa listens to her more than she did last week when SB was right about Hannah needing to be the target. Alyssa could have told Christian to say Hannah was the target with one word, but she didn’t because she trusts Xavier and the Queens
Again, great job by the cookout in shifting the target, yet they aren’t strategizing apparently
Oh and Tiff also has DX convinced that Ky will be coming for him, but only after Christian and Alyssa are gone, so she’s even planting seeds for when the time comes to take her shot.
So Tiff has totally misted the person that might be the most strategically sound player in the house during his own HOH, yet no strategy being used by Tiff
Why yall refuse to acknowledge the game play behind this is hilarious
Tiff is 100% in his head and running it. Noms will be Brit and SB
Once again DF and Azah’s names don’t even come up.
Tiff spent the whole night misting DX on why it should be Brit and SB (a great case btw saying by using SB if Christian wins Veto he won’t use it because he’ll know Alyssa could go up) while Ky spent the night misting SB on how they were fine. When she is nominated, Ky will act totally shocked leading SB to tell Christian and Alyssa that he is someone they can trust and she will also keep him informed of any plans during the week to shift the noms or votes.
So, all according to the PLAN.
DX never even considered that this plan should blow up his game with Christian and Alyssa because it SHOULD show them that Whitney was absolutely truthful when telling them the whole house wants to target a King next, but again Christian is an absolute moron who still won’t see it because all he cares about it is him and Alyssa. When the idea of Sarah as a pawn comes up they should immediately say why not just put up two Jokers, but of course they won’t because they are STUPID. SB will make this argument to DX so we’ll see how he responds to it, and also if Alyssa listens to her more than she did last week when SB was right about Hannah needing to be the target. Alyssa could have told Christian to say Hannah was the target with one word, but she didn’t because she trusts Xavier and the Queens
Again, great job by the cookout in shifting the target, yet they aren’t strategizing apparently
Oh and Tiff also has DX convinced that Ky will be coming for him, but only after Christian and Alyssa are gone, so she’s even planting seeds for when the time comes to take her shot.
So Tiff has totally misted the person that might be the most strategically sound player in the house during his own HOH, yet no strategy being used by Tiff
Why yall refuse to acknowledge the game play behind this is hilarious
This post was edited on 8/6/21 at 5:52 am
Posted on 8/6/21 at 7:08 am to Tiger Voodoo
Nobody (at least me) has ever said the cookout isn’t strategizing or playing the game well.
You can acknowledge they (especially Tiffany) are playing the game well, while also acknowledging the basis for their “alliance” is discriminatory. I think Tiffany is an amazing player. I think she will probably melt down at some point and not make it all the way to the final 2. But if she stays mentally strong she absolutely can win.
You can acknowledge they (especially Tiffany) are playing the game well, while also acknowledging the basis for their “alliance” is discriminatory. I think Tiffany is an amazing player. I think she will probably melt down at some point and not make it all the way to the final 2. But if she stays mentally strong she absolutely can win.
Posted on 8/6/21 at 7:18 am to Bluegrass_Cat
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Nobody (at least me) has ever said the cookout isn’t strategizing or playing the game well
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Cookout just means black people. They aren’t strategizing or working the game together
And again, this is no different nearly every other alliance that was formed in BB. All girls, all jocks, etc. This is your first all black alliance, because it's the first time you've had 6 black people in the house. Nothing, and I mean absolutely NOTHING they have done in the house has been racist. They are a group working as an alliance. They aren't pushing the fact that they are black, or pushing the fact that they are eliminating white people, in anybodies faces. They are playing the game, and playing it extremely well. CBS has mentioned it, because it's a storyline in the game, but they haven't pushed the woke BS either.
The fact that this continues to bother some of you so much shows a problem with you.
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