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re: Big Brother Season 23 Thread - LIVE Premiere July 7th 8pm ET - CBS

Posted on 7/17/21 at 11:52 am to
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
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Posted on 7/17/21 at 11:52 am to
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They are getting rid of whites one at a time. A black will win BB. Production will make it happen


Some of you are absolutely enraged that a black person may win this game. Here's a newsflash, a few of the black people are playing decent games and very well may deserve winning. Some of you seem racist as frick.
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Posted on 7/17/21 at 7:47 pm to
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Feeds return with Derek X wearing VETO around his neck. NT - M3gabyt3








This post was edited on 7/17/21 at 7:50 pm
Posted by ugastreaker
South Ga
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 7/17/21 at 7:51 pm to
Ol boy came to play! You heard what the comp was? Frenchie said it was not easy.
Posted by jefforize
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 7/17/21 at 7:57 pm to
He claimed he was gonna throw the veto. Wonder what happened.

House should keep frenchie around. Makes for a great shield.

Also from an entertainment perspective, frenchie leaving over Britni would be a disaster.
Posted by BayouCatFan
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 7/17/21 at 8:14 pm to
Frenchie may be a clown, but ratings will for sure go down if he gets evicted. Right now he and Whitney are the main draws.
Posted by jefforize
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 7/17/21 at 8:14 pm to
Azah trying to save frenchie.

Posted by jefforize
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 7/17/21 at 8:19 pm to
Would be dumb to evict frenchie. He's a huge target, known liar, completely cracked out, blown up all his alliances.

I get living with him might be a challenge but frick, its a game. Gotta keep him around.
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Posted on 7/17/21 at 8:27 pm to
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ratings will for sure go down if he gets evicted. Right now he and Whitney are the main draws.







I mean, it’s week 2. Ratings aren’t going down because some spaz that can’t help but promise the world to anyone he opens his mouth to gets evicted


Don’t we want to see good game play?? He is terrible at this game


Sure maybe he’s more “entertaining” than Britni but the game itself is going to get much more interesting with people like Tiff, Hannah, DX, Claire that actually have the self control to play the game and even people like Brent, Whit, DerekF, and Christian that are somewhat normal functioning people will have a chance to build actual alliances that won’t crumble within hours of being made
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Posted on 7/17/21 at 8:30 pm to
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Would be dumb to evict PAUL. He's a huge target, known liar, completely cracked out, blown up all his alliances.

I get living with him might be a challenge but frick, its a game. Gotta keep him around.



Said all the HGs in S18.

Leaving wild cards like that in as a “shield” is a very dangerous move and rarely works out the way they think it will.


Hell he could win HOH next week and the whole house would be fricked again.

Take out the unknown and gain control, easily the correct strategic move.
This post was edited on 7/17/21 at 8:31 pm
Posted by jefforize
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 7/17/21 at 8:49 pm to
S18 Paul had Victor as a shield who won two battle backs. Also Paulie

Frenchie doesn't have the charisma to pull off what s18 Paul did.

Sadly I suspect they will vote frenchie out. He flew way too close to the sun on week1. Complete idiot
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 7/17/21 at 10:12 pm to
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I mean, it’s week 2. Ratings aren’t going down because some spaz that can’t help but promise the world to anyone he opens his mouth to gets evicted


Agreed. It appears they have selected a cast this year that is more focused on game play than their Instagram fame.

There doesn't seem to be one major alliance that will steam role.

It has all the ingredients of a solid season.

Everyone constantly bitching at this point probably were not going to give the season a legit shot anyway.
Posted by jefforize
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Posted on 7/17/21 at 10:26 pm to
Bit much for a big brother thread
Posted by supatigah
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Posted on 7/17/21 at 11:26 pm to
DX is my early favorite, really like that guy

frenchie just cant STFU
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 7/18/21 at 1:10 am to
Now Frenchie is trying to self evict. This guy.
This post was edited on 7/18/21 at 1:26 am
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Posted on 7/18/21 at 6:52 am to
Just a few bits of game play last night as I think the focus was on making Brit feel safe, even though she was annoying everyone because it’s obvious French is going home, and Frenchie throwing out the idea of going home.


A few game related posts:


quote:

Hannah says she feels good with Christain and Xavier and Azah. She is not sure about Derek F right now. Derek X says Big D would put him up. Hannah says why? Derek X says Big D sees him as a threat since the start NT - silverspoons



Hannah is good at the game and moving up my list of favorites.

Derek F really needs to do damage control as he is definitely seen as attached to French. Azah is to some extent as well.



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Xavier says the only people he trusts right now is his team and he is building to others from that. NT - silverspoons

Sun 1:34 AM PT Xavier says he is p*ssed that Alyssa and now Brit are on the block. They did not do anything. NT - silverspoons



Xavier really hasn’t done much to secure a spot and seems pretty out of the loop other than with Christian and Alyssa. Pretty disappointing for someone that is supposed to be smart, but seems that he hasn’t easily connected with many people.




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Christain says he needs clarity and control int he game. Derek F says we are losing a player, it will be 7-7 next week. The veto will decide it. NT - silverspoons


Trying to figure out who he thinks the numbers are here, but since he’s talking to Christian I guess it’s pretty clear he sees the game as being split between Jokers/Kings vs Aces/Queens, with each side having lost a player in the first two weeks.


So that would be:

DF, Azah, Brit, Chris, Alyssa, Xavier, SB

DX, Ky, Tiff, Claire, Hannah, Brent, Whit


Brent and Whit are clearly not aligned with DX and Ky or the Tiff/Claire crew, so DF and Christian really need to try to make a connection there.

The question is how solid are Brit, SB, Azah, and Xavier with him and that side. Pretty sure those three girls are down with the girls alliance and X might be solid with Cookout, but he’s also legitimately tight with Christian and Alyssa, moreso than Ky and DX imo.


So there really are multiple ways several players could go, but I think it’s clear Brent and Whit HAVE TO connect with Christian and Alyssa to give themselves any real shot going forward. Otherwise they will be the next two to go and that’s pretty clear.

Best case is one of them win HOH, followed by Christian, Alyssa, Xavier, and then probably DF.

In any event, a guy winning HOH is pretty important, as even the groups that are solid will have some conflict as to whether a guy or girl should go. With two guys gone already, any guy HOH will want a girl to go as the girl alliance is still very much on all the guys’ minds. If a girl wins they will be pressured from the guys on their side for a girl to go, or that will probably push the guys to wake up and all start working together across team divisions because they are in trouble otherwise.

A girl HOH would almost certainly sacrifice Brit, Alyssa, or Whit if that becomes an issue, as Brit really does seem to annoy everyone in the house and Alyssa/Whit are not really a part of the girls alliance. They would just choose two from whichever of those aren’t on their team, as they are all spread between the four teams.



Ha, well after typing all of that up, I see this:


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Brent says to Alyssa that they have to get rid of a women next. Alyssa says she will be a target of the girls. Brent says you will be protected. NT - silver spoons


Brent says to Alyssa we have to win back trust in the alliance. NT - silverspoons


Alyssa and Brent talking about possible girl noms. They mention Britini/Claire Claire/Tiffany Britini/Azah (Brent says no to same teams) NT - silverspoons






So at least Brent appears to know what’s up and understands Christian and Alyssa are the natural allies for him and Whit as those two have already been targeted and they are the next two and will not be protected by the Queens/Aces collective.


Brent really needs to get to DF. He can use the fact that they are both seen as connected to Frenchie so they have to help each other. DX also seems to scare DF so that gives him more motivation to go away from Ky and stick with the Jokers/Kings group and pull Brent/Whit from Aces to weaken that side.
This post was edited on 7/18/21 at 6:56 am
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Posted on 7/18/21 at 7:05 am to
Also found these brief exchanges interesting:


quote:

Derek F says that he is coming for those b*tches head. Britini says she promsied Ky and Derek X safety next week, and if Derek F gets HOH next week they can F'ing go. NT - silverspoons

Sun 12:05 AM PT Big D promises to come after "those bitches." Britni assures him that the promise was just for one week. NT - HumanFrailty

Sun 12:04 AM PT Britini says that Ky and Derek X are being manipulating. Derek F says now we have 3 memebers on our team. I have to talk to Ky. Derek F burps. NT - silverspoons

Sun 12:04 AM PT Britni tells Big D about her promise to keep Ky & Derek X safe. She says its not their fault and they are being manipulated. NT - HumanFrailty

Sun 12:03 AM PT Derek F in the SR getting tums. Britini comes in. She says Ky wants the chaos to end. Derek F says what team is Ky going to work with? NT - silverspoons



So does DF coming after “those bitches” mean Ky and DX or the people he sees as manipulating them? Maybe Tiff/Claire?

He asks what side Ky will choose so I think he definitely sees DX as his big threat.



Also this:


quote:

Brent, Whitney, Hannah & Derek X discuss Frenchie starting an all girl alliance. NT - HumanFrailty

Brent says all the girls are upset about Britni getting put up. He thinks this means the girls alliance is real. NT - HumanFrailty




So Brent feels somewhat comfortable enough with the Aces as he was openly talking about the girls alliance with DX and Hannah. I wonder how much he knows about their connections with the Queens? Aces seems most likely to split and take opposite sides imo.


But the team bonds are definitely a factor as Christian and Sarah Beth continued to seem to have a genuine connection and talked a minor game point or two as well, and I’m not sure that would have happened without the team element.

Same with the DF Britni connection, though I think Brit would 100% go with the girls over DF. Azah probably would as well, although she’s kind of like Xavier in that she isn’t as tight with the other girls and really seems to stick with Jokers most of the time the way Xav does with Kings.


It will also be interesting to see how The Cookout factor will play in as they really don’t even seem to talk much and it’s more of an unspoken understanding type thing.

But honestly Tiff doesn’t really talk to any of the others much except for Ty and Hannah, so I’m not sure how loyal she’d be to DF, Azah, or Xav if they were up against say Claire or even DX or SB at this point. That appears to be her real core group.


I think Cookout was more of an initial let’s all try to steer the nominations elsewhere if possible but if comes down to a vote I don’t see any of them voting out a real ally just for the idea of the cookout.
This post was edited on 7/18/21 at 7:16 am
Posted by JDPndahizzy
JDP
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 7/18/21 at 7:27 am to
Great updates Voodoo!
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
11706 posts
Posted on 7/18/21 at 9:10 am to
Dereck F won’t make it much longer in the house, he offers nothing to an alliance and is much more of a liability than anything with his attitude.

Poor Tiffany is being accused of being a “closet Republican” on Reddit because she said she doesn’t like woke culture and thinks you can be friends with someone with opposing political opinions.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86470 posts
Posted on 7/18/21 at 11:05 am to
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Poor Tiffany is being accused of being a “closet Republican” on Reddit because she said she doesn’t like woke culture and thinks you can be friends with someone with opposing political opinions.


It really does blow my mind that anyone over the age of 20 would willingly decide to align with the left. Absolute sickos. Tiffany could very well go down as the best black player (and she's a female!) In bb history but apparently that doesn't matter bc she might lean to the right ha.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
21061 posts
Posted on 7/18/21 at 7:33 pm to
I become a bigger fan of Tiffany every time I watch the show.
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