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re: Big Brother 20 - Season Long Thread
Posted on 9/27/18 at 3:20 am to Bottom9
Posted on 9/27/18 at 3:20 am to Bottom9
The showmance had nothing to do with Tyler losing and everything to do with the jury being bitter and voting for who was nicest to them.
An argument could be made that Tyler's infatuation with Angela made him drop the ball which made him not see he needed to get Kaycee out, but I think he would have ridden with her to F2 regardless of a showmance or not.
When they had the Battle Back I assumed Bayleigh was not pregnant because if she had won re-entry there is no way she could have competed in the HOH. I now assume she must be for her to say yes to the babysitter. Production must have told her to sandbag that competition. All I know is her daddy better be ready to pay their bills bc she is supposedly not eligible to return to Delta and he probably makes minimum wage. It wont be long before she realizes his career earnings potential is not what she had in mind.
Vegas signed off for the summer on her twitter as RealVegas Moonves. That's odd. Surely, Vegas isn't Julie????
An argument could be made that Tyler's infatuation with Angela made him drop the ball which made him not see he needed to get Kaycee out, but I think he would have ridden with her to F2 regardless of a showmance or not.
When they had the Battle Back I assumed Bayleigh was not pregnant because if she had won re-entry there is no way she could have competed in the HOH. I now assume she must be for her to say yes to the babysitter. Production must have told her to sandbag that competition. All I know is her daddy better be ready to pay their bills bc she is supposedly not eligible to return to Delta and he probably makes minimum wage. It wont be long before she realizes his career earnings potential is not what she had in mind.
Vegas signed off for the summer on her twitter as RealVegas Moonves. That's odd. Surely, Vegas isn't Julie????
This post was edited on 9/27/18 at 3:48 am
Posted on 9/27/18 at 4:39 am to BayouCatFan
Tyler lost this on his own with his blind spot for KC. It was discussed at length in this thread that Tyler needed to take Brett or Angela with him to F2 because he needed someone the jury hated more. Instead, he throws a final comp so that KC has to get Angela out and he doesn’t have to make the decision. It was dumb on his part and cost him a lot of money. We all knew the jury would be largely motivated by bitterness. I’m a bit surprised Brett voted for Tyler given how his backdoor went down.
Posted on 9/27/18 at 6:25 am to ZIGG
What a terrible way to end a great season. Both Sam and RS saying their vote wasn’t game related. At some point production is going to have change how the winner is determined. In future seasons no one is going to make moves or blindside because of hurt feelings. It will make the game boring much like KC this season.
This post was edited on 9/27/18 at 6:26 am
Posted on 9/27/18 at 6:30 am to ugastreaker
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Bayleigh ask Tyler about sour tastes in mouths....wasn’t that her blood?
Post of the night
Posted on 9/27/18 at 6:54 am to Dick Jacket
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Tyler lost this on his own with his blind spot for KC. It was discussed at length in this thread that Tyler needed to take Brett or Angela with him to F2 because he needed someone the jury hated more. Instead, he throws a final comp so that KC has to get Angela out and he doesn’t have to make the decision. It was dumb on his part and cost him a lot of money. We all knew the jury would be largely motivated by bitterness. I’m a bit surprised Brett voted for Tyler given how his backdoor went down.
I agree with all of this.
Pretty much everyone in this thread was talking about how both Kaycee and Tyler were deserving before last night.
Now they seem to be doing exactly what Foutee did and reacting with bitterness because they hate Foutee so much and didn’t want them to decide the winner. But they were always going to. They had the numbers and anyone that though Bay or Angie would vote for a white surfer dude over a lesbian football player wasn’t paying attention.
Tyler also totally fricked himself the same way Paul did by completely lying to Sam until the end. It wasn’t necessary and it was obvious for weeks that he was going to lose her vote by continuing to dig in emotionally with her even when he had the perfect out with his new showmance.
He also lost any chance with Bay with his answer about why he turned on her. It was a lame cop out trying to make himself look like some mastermind when he should have just avoided it or just said he regretted it.
He also blew it with Scotty by saying he threw him under the bus to Bay. I don’t think that was necessary and again was just too much trying to look like a mastermind when no one even came close to putting him up.
He kept trying to sell the power app as some big coup but he never used it and most importantly the jury didn’t even understand what the power was so his rambling about trying to get people to backdoor likely made little sense to them and sounded like BS. Remember the jury didn’t know as much about it as we did.
I also think he should have played up his comp wins to Fess and said his biggest move in the house was working with JC to keep Fess from putting him up. Say him and Hay were a power couple and getting them out was his biggest move. You have to play up to the vanity of a guy like Fess. Make him feel important. Tyler never even mentioned him. So of course Fess was like well frick him then.
I thought Kaycee was awful at the questions for sure but she kept it simple and Tyler was just trying to squeeze too much into too little time.
He should have just said I sold myself as a dumb surfer but I’m a super fan and love the game and tried to play hard from Day 1.
All the intricacies was just too much and he should have realized with Foutee that he needed to keep it simple and likable.
Just like with the crying bullshite when he won AFP he just goes overboard with the fake emotion. Same thing he did with Sam and Katelyn and even Scottie to an extent.
I was happy to see JC, Brett, and Angela stick with him though. I thought Kaycee would win in a landslide, but it was cool the way it came down to a deciding vote tied at 4.
Great season and Kaycee winning a close vote certainly doesn’t do anything to diminish it, although the weird proposal after knowing each other for 23 days and not seeing each other for over two months almost did
Even worse than that though was his idiotic dancing behind Julie during the sign off. Bye Chris
This post was edited on 9/27/18 at 6:57 am
Posted on 9/27/18 at 7:04 am to Tiger Voodoo
I'm not mad at Kaycee winning. She was actually one of my favorites from the beginning.
But, I think Tyler played a better game. It came down to bitter jury again.
Bayleigh and Sam were never going to vote for Tyler. Their minds were made up way before the finale.
I'm a little surprised Rockpile voted for Kaycee since they had their "i'm a grown arse woman" situation. But, I think she was influenced by Bayleigh.
Also surprised Fessy voted differently than Haleigh. I guess they weren't as close as they said?
Sam wins for most clueless house guest ever.It's like she thought she was just there to play house.
Overall, the best BB season in a long time. Pay attention CBS, it works better with all new players.
Oh and did Haleigh get a boob job during sequester?
But, I think Tyler played a better game. It came down to bitter jury again.
Bayleigh and Sam were never going to vote for Tyler. Their minds were made up way before the finale.
I'm a little surprised Rockpile voted for Kaycee since they had their "i'm a grown arse woman" situation. But, I think she was influenced by Bayleigh.
Also surprised Fessy voted differently than Haleigh. I guess they weren't as close as they said?
Sam wins for most clueless house guest ever.It's like she thought she was just there to play house.
Overall, the best BB season in a long time. Pay attention CBS, it works better with all new players.
Oh and did Haleigh get a boob job during sequester?
Posted on 9/27/18 at 7:10 am to Tiger Voodoo
I was cool with Kaycee or Tyler winning. Tyler is going to do just fine even though he didn't win. He was AFP, got the girl and will be plastered all over CBS and other shows in the coming months.
That proposal
Grodner sucks. She trolled the shite out of us.
That proposal
Grodner sucks. She trolled the shite out of us.
Posted on 9/27/18 at 7:20 am to tigerpimpbot
Now I’m curious for who will be on celebrity BB
Posted on 9/27/18 at 7:26 am to Tiger Voodoo
i mentioned it briefly last night, but the roundtable made it look like they weren't quite as bitter as I suspected
both bayleigh and rockstar spoke highly of tyler's game and seemed to respect it which i found surprising
looking back, i'm assuming this was editing or production's doing to throw us off
i really didn't expect sam to remain bitter, but shes so f*&^ing crazy, who knows with that wildcard
angela white-knighted hard in that roundtable for tyler...could have backfired on them
both bayleigh and rockstar spoke highly of tyler's game and seemed to respect it which i found surprising
looking back, i'm assuming this was editing or production's doing to throw us off
i really didn't expect sam to remain bitter, but shes so f*&^ing crazy, who knows with that wildcard
angela white-knighted hard in that roundtable for tyler...could have backfired on them
Posted on 9/27/18 at 7:54 am to Croacka
I'm not upset at all that KC won. She actually became my favorite player a few weeks back. I'm very happy she won, but I'm still a bit disappointed because I feel like Tyler deserved it a bit more.
I felt he deserved it 100% based off of their questions and speeches. The only thing KC answered to everything was her social game. She had nothing at all to fall back on. Meanwhile Tyler had so much that he couldn't fit it all in. In the final moments I switched to thinking Tyler should win.
Speaking of not having time. I have been a person this entire thread to say production wasn't screwing with the game, and everything wasn't a CBS thing. That proposal pissed me off though. Not because he proposed, or was put in the spotlight (because that was to be expected), but because the jury questions and speeches were rushed yet, they have time to fit in a damn proposal. That left a terrible taste it my mouth. These people played a game for 3 months, and the end game gets rushed so the houses two biggest idiots can get the spotlight? frick that.
I felt he deserved it 100% based off of their questions and speeches. The only thing KC answered to everything was her social game. She had nothing at all to fall back on. Meanwhile Tyler had so much that he couldn't fit it all in. In the final moments I switched to thinking Tyler should win.
Speaking of not having time. I have been a person this entire thread to say production wasn't screwing with the game, and everything wasn't a CBS thing. That proposal pissed me off though. Not because he proposed, or was put in the spotlight (because that was to be expected), but because the jury questions and speeches were rushed yet, they have time to fit in a damn proposal. That left a terrible taste it my mouth. These people played a game for 3 months, and the end game gets rushed so the houses two biggest idiots can get the spotlight? frick that.
This post was edited on 9/27/18 at 7:55 am
Posted on 9/27/18 at 8:10 am to Tiger Voodoo
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I thought Kaycee was awful at the questions for sure but she kept it simple and Tyler was just trying to squeeze too much into too little time.
And that's on CBS. That whole segment was so rushed and the questions were lame and provided nothing for the jury to base their decision on. I almost lost it when Julie went to Tyler for his closing argument and told him he had 45 seconds. WTF?
I have no problem with KC winning. She played a fine game, especially with how BB has evolved over the years. Loyal, honest, friendly games are more highly regarded than strategic, cut throat games. I probably would have voted for Tyler, but I don't think he was head and shoulders above her in gameplay.
Posted on 9/27/18 at 8:11 am to AHM21
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I’m more upset at CBS making this season center around a minority showmance no matter what it took.
Say what?
Seems like they did the typical couple thing. Gets attention while they're both in the house. Gets one segment after one of them gets evicted. Then the typical "what's the status?" Question on finale night.
The only thing different is the proposal which sucked but id hardly say they centered the season around it
Posted on 9/27/18 at 8:19 am to The Spleen
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And that's on CBS. That whole segment was so rushed and the questions were lame and provided nothing for the jury to base their decision on. I almost lost it when Julie went to Tyler for his closing argument and told him he had 45 seconds. WTF?
I think that played a good bit into why Kaycee won. Every answer was, "I love you guys!" That was her game. She won comps but didn't do much else.
Tyler on the other hand had some questions that needed answering and moves that needed explaining. You can't explain 99 days of gameplay in 3 minutes of talk time.
Dan's interview the other day highlighted this. He was given an entire day to Q&A with jury and explain what he did and why on season 10. The next time, he got maybe 5 minutes.
Posted on 9/27/18 at 8:30 am to The Spleen
I have no problem with Kaycee winning because she played the way you have to play nowadays flawlessly. The problem I have is if they continue to keep this jury and finale format, we may not see another Will or Dan type of winner, who manipulates their way to a win, ever again. For me as a live feeder, that is the most entertaining type of game play. I think that the "superfans" that play from now on will use the Kaycee/Josh boring gameplan instead of the Will/Dan exciting game plan.
This post was edited on 9/27/18 at 8:31 am
Posted on 9/27/18 at 8:34 am to Bamatab
Tweet from Dan:
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With Tyler not winning I think we’ve seen the death of any sort of Machiavellian style game having a chance to win.
The game and format has evolved to make it very hard to win playing that style of game. #BB20
Posted on 9/27/18 at 8:43 am to Weagle25
Dan is missing the part where Tyler pulled off of the Machiavellian stuff when he threw a comp so that it was KC who had to vote Angela out. That was a dumb move. All Tyler had to do was take Angela with him and he would have won.
Posted on 9/27/18 at 8:53 am to Dick Jacket
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Dan is missing the part where Tyler pulled off of the Machiavellian stuff when he threw a comp so that it was KC who had to vote Angela out.
Did Tyler ever say he threw that comp? I didn't see him ever saying that. Angela speculated in one of her eviction interviews that she thought he might've thrown it, but that was just speculation on her part. Tyler always said in his DRs that he didn't throw comps. The only one that I know that he threw for sure was the endurance one that Sam won, and he didn't throw it until she wouldn't stop begging him to drop. Tyler never wanted to risk putting his game into someone else's hands.
Posted on 9/27/18 at 8:58 am to Bamatab
what a disaster of an ending from production
rush through all the jury stuff to shoehorn in a shitty proposal
jury questions took all of six fricking minutes. SIX
rush through all the jury stuff to shoehorn in a shitty proposal
jury questions took all of six fricking minutes. SIX
Posted on 9/27/18 at 8:58 am to lsunurse
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Now I’m curious for who will be on celebrity BB
I hope it’s celebrities that I actually care about
Posted on 9/27/18 at 8:59 am to saintthetiger93
post show twitter time. always fun


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