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Posted on 6/26/17 at 11:07 am to musick
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Here is my version of a Ham Solo post:
I may be wrong about the theory, but your arguments hold no water. That is why you are resorting to posts like these, then accusing me of shitting on people that disagree, when it's simply not true. You are the one shitting on people you don't agree with.
Posted on 6/26/17 at 11:18 am to musick
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musick
Here's the deal. I do respect your opinions, but you keep stating your opinions as facts.
Posted on 6/26/17 at 11:20 am to Ham Solo
Do I have to go dig up the post you said that the lighting and camera angle suggests that Kim is a silent partner in BrBa?
I'm making fun of your far reaching, absurd posts. I'm not shitting on you, in fact I thought you were onto something when you first mentioned it, and even was one of the first posters to agree with you. Then you beat it like a dead horse and the show started trending the other way.
I like the overall theory, I just dont see it holding weight.
I'm making fun of your far reaching, absurd posts. I'm not shitting on you, in fact I thought you were onto something when you first mentioned it, and even was one of the first posters to agree with you. Then you beat it like a dead horse and the show started trending the other way.
I like the overall theory, I just dont see it holding weight.
This post was edited on 6/26/17 at 11:21 am
Posted on 6/26/17 at 11:24 am to Ham Solo
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Here's the deal. I do respect your opinions, but you keep stating your opinions as facts.
Same, let's just see how it plays out. Again I think it could be a neat thing to do, just don't think it's plausible in this universe of the show. It seems a bit like a cop out to go that route.
I stand by what I think is going to happen, and that is Gene searching for/or running into Kim in the Cinnebon timeline, and them possibly moving to an island and living happily ever after (yea right, not in this universe, but its a nice thought) It just makes sense in this context. Otherwise why even give us the Gene timeline?
This post was edited on 6/26/17 at 11:29 am
Posted on 6/26/17 at 11:29 am to musick
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Do I have to go dig up the post you said that the lighting and camera angle suggests that Kim is a silent partner in BrBa?
No, I stand by that. I think one day Vince will tell us that was our very first clue. It would not be the first time he has used symbolic imagery.
The problem is you keep bringing that up like it's the only thing I have mentioned. That piece of evidence requires speculation, but I have also presented facts as well. Throw in the fact that Kim was behaving almost the entire season and it's not that far fetched that I'm right.
Posted on 6/26/17 at 11:43 am to Ham Solo
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Throw in the fact that Kim was behaving almost the entire season and it's not that far fetched that I'm right.
You didn't see Kim looking at Jimmy frightened when Jimmy was planning the scam this season which she was so freaked out that Jimmy had to play it off like a joke as a possible clue that Kim isn't going to be down with total Saul-mode Jimmy?
Posted on 6/26/17 at 11:53 am to musick
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You didn't see Kim looking at Jimmy frightened when Jimmy was planning the scam this season which she was so freaked out
I felt like that scene could be speculated for or against the theory. Yes, she looked scared, but she also asked if they were really doing this. I think if Jimmy said yes she may have reluctantly gone along. Once that moment passed it was Kim who started scheming up the next con for their next potential victim. To me that scene was just kind of a wash for or against the theory as it could be looked at two different ways.
Posted on 6/26/17 at 11:58 am to Ham Solo
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Ham Solo
Mother of frick, you are the fricking worst.

Posted on 6/26/17 at 12:05 pm to Ham Solo
No, it couldn't be taken two different ways. You have to ignore everything that has happened to come to that conclusion. You have to ignore that she has just immediately before had a break of composure due to a guilty conscience where she explicitly explained her guilt to her colleague at Mesa Verde.
This has to all be an act. You can't be this dense.
This has to all be an act. You can't be this dense.
Posted on 6/26/17 at 12:12 pm to Peazey
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she has just immediately before had a break of composure due to a guilty conscience
Correct and once Jimmy told her to feel no guilt for Chuck she went right back into playing their little scam game. She also has not shown an ounce of remorse for Chuck since that moment.
This post was edited on 6/26/17 at 12:17 pm
Posted on 6/26/17 at 1:07 pm to Ham Solo
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Correct and once Jimmy told her to feel no guilt for Chuck she went right back into playing their little scam game. She also has not shown an ounce of remorse for Chuck since that moment.
That scene with Jimmy was important for us to see. We had to see Jimmy coercing Kim against her own conscience.
Now think back to Chuck's last words to Jimmy, "In the end, you’re going to hurt everyone around you. You can’t help it. So stop apologizing and accept it. " They showed us that Jimmy thought about this. Jimmy has to be thinking about his influence on Kim. How do we know? The writers actually injured Kim and then showed us Jimmy blaming himself.
It would be a bizarre writing strategy to then shift toward Jimmy deciding he needs to keep going down the same path of risking Kim's future. She's already been behind the scenes. How is more of the same going to make things better.
I'm standing by my position that Season 4 will give us scenes where Jimmy starts pushing Kim away.
Posted on 6/26/17 at 1:17 pm to Willie Stroker
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I'm standing by my position that Season 4 will give us scenes where Jimmy starts pushing Kim away
It's a possibility but I just don't see it happening.
Posted on 6/26/17 at 2:12 pm to Willie Stroker
If Kim was around in BB, Jimmy wouldn't have needed to go underground. He could have left with her and lived happily ever after as Gene and Sandra.
Posted on 6/26/17 at 2:57 pm to JuiceTerry
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If Kim was around in BB, Jimmy wouldn't have needed to go underground. He could have left with her and lived happily ever after as Gene and Sandra.
Wouldn't that depend on the status of their relationship?
The focus on Omaha in BCS suggests that Kim is at least alive in BB. Why else would we need all the Omaha connections to Kim while knowing that Jimmy also ends up in Omaha? He won't want to be there out of sentiment for a deceased ex. He's not that creepy.
If Kim is still around in BB in a behind the scenes role as a Saul Goodman partner, I agree with you.
But if she's still around in BB because Jimmy pushed her away, he may certainly be interested in reconnecting with her by heading to Omaha. His character is one that will want to gather information before coming up with a plan. The best way to catch up with and reconnect with Kim is to be there. The character already shows us that he likes to set up phony chance encounters in order to inject himself into other people's business.
My money is on us seeing future Kim in Omaha and that she will not know that Jimmy has traveled there until he chooses to make his presence known to her. His fondness for wanting to practice law again will help make that re-connection happen.
Posted on 6/26/17 at 3:04 pm to Willie Stroker
The money laundering side Saul is going to get into could be coming from Gus/Lydia and not Kim.
I'm with you, it's basically a given at this point bc what else could the possible Gene scenes be leading to? This also pretty much alludes to her being gone the entire BB timeline.
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My money is on us seeing future Kim in Omaha and that she will not know that Jimmy has traveled there until he chooses to make his presence known to her. His fondness for wanting to practice law again will help make that re-connection happen.
I'm with you, it's basically a given at this point bc what else could the possible Gene scenes be leading to? This also pretty much alludes to her being gone the entire BB timeline.
Posted on 6/26/17 at 3:20 pm to musick
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The money laundering side Saul is going to get into could be coming from Gus/Lydia and not Kim.
No, because Saul doesn't even know who Gus is. He connects Walt to Gus later through Mike. He does find out it's Gus after Walt starts working for him, but he already has ISZA going at that point.
He knows of Gus but not his identity.
This post was edited on 6/26/17 at 3:24 pm
Posted on 6/26/17 at 3:24 pm to Ham Solo
Saul does know who Gus is in BB, cmon man. All of Gus/Saul's interactions are not through Mike.
Did you even watch BB? Now I'm starting to wonder. The end of Gus's arc runs directly through Saul. Now you are just arguing for the sake of arguing.
Did you even watch BB? Now I'm starting to wonder. The end of Gus's arc runs directly through Saul. Now you are just arguing for the sake of arguing.
This post was edited on 6/26/17 at 3:26 pm
Posted on 6/26/17 at 3:30 pm to musick
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Saul does know who Gus is in BB,
I didn't state that as clearly as I could have.
Saul has no idea that Gus is a meth dealer when Walt first meets Gus. He only finds this out after Walt is working for him.
The only thing Saul knows is that there is a major meth dealer that has never been caught and that Mike knows him. He uses Mike to set up this meeting. ISZA has already been up and running at this point.
Trust me on this. It's 100% fact.
Posted on 6/26/17 at 4:06 pm to Willie Stroker
Yeah, I'm just saying she ain't in ABQ helping Saul. She may well be back in Omaha, which I think would mesh better with BB.
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