re: Better Call Saul S3 E10 Lantern (Season Finale)

So what will make Jimmy go full Saul? Chuck's death? Doubtful. The easiest answer is that he loses Kim, whether by his own doing, or force majeur. If they were to stay together, why would he need to break bad? Jimmy just gradually getting shadier would not be a compelling story.

I appreciate your theory, I just don't think it will go that way. And, IMO, it would seem like just wedging something into BB that BB doesn't need.

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So what will make Jimmy go full Saul?

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I am not convinced he ever truly does. I am just speculating here, but I think Saul could just be a persona he puts on in front of clients. We did see him take off that persona once in BB. Under the vacuum shop with Walt he acted like a normal person and told Walt it was over.

If he truly does go full Saul, I think it will just happen over time and may have more to do with opportunity and greed than necessarily one event. Certain events like Chuck's death could certainly push him in that direction though.

It was a persona he used to partake in criminal activity with known criminals. He doesn't do that right now, and in fact, he punishes himself for deceiving people. I'm sure Saul has a conscience, but he compartmentalizes it in order to be a crook. It's a fine line, but He definitely breaks bad.

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I am not convinced he ever truly does. I am just speculating here, but I think Saul could just be a persona he puts on in front of clients.

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Uh, by "going 'full Saul'" he means doing serious criminal shite: laundering money, hiring hitmen, etc.

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We did see him take off that persona once in BB. Under the vacuum shop with Walt he acted like a normal person and told Walt it was over.

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You mean at the point where he wasn't Saul anymore and became Gene? No shite

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If so, why have Kim's actions since then not backed it up? Since then she hasn't shown a bit of remorse, she has offered to pay Jimmy's half of the bills, been fine with screwing Irene, told him to play to his strengths, and insinuated that they would work together again soon.

Not once since then has she done anything to show she is questioning his actions. Her loyalty to him trumps her moral compass. This has been shown time and time again.

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The whole situation with Chuck telling Jimmy that he will destroy everyone around him is foreshadowing. It's pretty fricking obvious. Same with the car crash. Kim will unravel.

Kim is all Jimmy really has in his life right now. His best friend Marco is dead, Chuck is dead, Kim will either be pushed away or die, and Jimmy will be left to himself, he will crack and become the criminal he is in Breaking Bad.

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He goes full Saul, that's the whole arc of the show, and yes it's also a persona

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What I am saying is personality wise, he never really becomes Saul. That is an act and persona.

If we are talking about his actions, then yes he does, but I think that is just a matter of opportunity. So far he has only had the opportunity to do something really bad once and he passed, but instantly regretted it. He told Mike he would never make that mistake again. I'm talking about keeping the Kettleman's money.

He has shown a willingness to break the law several times though. I think once he becomes a criminal lawyer the opptunities will be there and he won't be able to pass it up. This is when his actions will become more like Saul.To me it just seems more like a matter of opportunity and him taking Chuck's advice to have no more remorse.

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he never really becomes Saul

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then what the frick is the point of this show?

again... then what the frick is the point of this show?

so it's just a show about a lawyer? that's it?
you think the writers are writing errors if they include character development

No way something bad doesn't happen. Are you forgetting Saul is a criminal? He helps criminals and has connections to other major criminals. That's not a "personality" you can just turn on and off. As much as a prick as he can be right now, Saul is way worse.

Why do you guys think Gene was so sad watching those tapes of Saul Goodman commercials in the first episode?

It wasn't because he misses being Saul Goodman. It's because he's remembering a time that he and Kim were together and they felt on top of the world. He just let it go to far with Walt and it screwed everything up.