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Better Call Saul ending was lame and unrealistic.
Posted on 8/17/22 at 7:39 pm
Posted on 8/17/22 at 7:39 pm
Jimmy spent his entire life as slipping Jimmy the con man with no conscience.
But when he has a sweetheart deal that lets him out in 7 years, he decides to grow a conscience even if it means spending the rest of his life in prison?
Why?
Just to impress Kim, even though he will never be able to have her again?
Why not do the 7 years and then try to get Kim back for real?
Not to mention the ridiculous notion that prosecutors would offer him that deal with all of the dirt that they had on him, and the seriousness of the crimes.
Because they were afraid someone would believe his lame excuse?
If that was how the real world worked, then everyone would get a sweetheart deal instead of going to trial.
It would have made more sense for him to get whacked in prison, or on the bus, to assure that he never talks.
Breaking Bad was great, but it also had its unrealistic issues.
Like continuing to use that old piece of crap RV, and risk breaking down and getting caught, when they had 10s of millions.
And when Walt said "Let him bleed" instead of finishing off Tuco, and risk him surviving and coming after Walt and family etc.
But when he has a sweetheart deal that lets him out in 7 years, he decides to grow a conscience even if it means spending the rest of his life in prison?
Why?
Just to impress Kim, even though he will never be able to have her again?
Why not do the 7 years and then try to get Kim back for real?
Not to mention the ridiculous notion that prosecutors would offer him that deal with all of the dirt that they had on him, and the seriousness of the crimes.
Because they were afraid someone would believe his lame excuse?
If that was how the real world worked, then everyone would get a sweetheart deal instead of going to trial.
It would have made more sense for him to get whacked in prison, or on the bus, to assure that he never talks.
Breaking Bad was great, but it also had its unrealistic issues.
Like continuing to use that old piece of crap RV, and risk breaking down and getting caught, when they had 10s of millions.
And when Walt said "Let him bleed" instead of finishing off Tuco, and risk him surviving and coming after Walt and family etc.
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Posted on 8/17/22 at 7:43 pm to Day Time
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Like continuing to use that old piece of crap RV, and risk breaking down and getting caught, when they had 10s of millions.
They had thousands. Walt was still targeting $737K to leave his family. This was short term and they weren't looking for upgrades.
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when Walt said "Let him bleed" instead of finishing off Tuco, and risk him surviving and coming after Walt and family etc.
Pretty sure he was gut shot in the middle of nowhere. Chances aren't good.
Posted on 8/17/22 at 8:46 pm to Day Time
Jimmy and Saul to some degree always had flashes of conscience. It was always under the surface.
Posted on 8/17/22 at 8:55 pm to Day Time
after letting the ending marinate a few days, i totally understand it more now. jimmy was a good guy at heart, yea he had his own down falls but Jimmy had a conscience, hence the reason he made Saul because he needed that alter ego to be who Jimmy couldn’t be and that was a complete waste piece of shite, scum bag lawyer who would get money at any cost. Jimmy couldn’t let it go down like that, and he was constantly fighting between the 2 personalities in the end, and Jimmy came out, because he felt it was the right thing to do, and when i think of it this way the ending makes me feel a lot better. I wish he would have went out with a bang too, but in the end, he had a heart and Jimmy overcame Saul!
This post was edited on 8/17/22 at 8:56 pm
Posted on 8/17/22 at 9:04 pm to Tiger Nation 84
In the end, we got a bit of both left. Jimmy was who he wanted to be, and Saul still existed as a “good guy” to the inmates he was with. I thought it was a great way for both sides to sort of win.
And yeah it’s unrealistic, it’s a freaking TV show. We watch these shows because they aren’t real and they entertain our imagination.
And yeah it’s unrealistic, it’s a freaking TV show. We watch these shows because they aren’t real and they entertain our imagination.
This post was edited on 8/17/22 at 9:07 pm
Posted on 8/17/22 at 9:09 pm to Day Time
Okay.
Posted on 8/17/22 at 9:17 pm to Day Time
Yeah? Well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
Posted on 8/17/22 at 9:34 pm to Day Time
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But when he has a sweetheart deal that lets him out in 7 years, he decides to grow a conscience even if it means spending the rest of his life in prison?
He basically suicided himself without a gun/noose.
Actually using a gun would have been more realistic. And this was a guy that claimed he had never touched one.
The Gilligan/Gould ballwashers will downvote you to oblivion, but the last several episodes were a huge letdown. The cartel portion of the series was excellent and frankly better than BB. The rest of BCS was ok but rather tedious.
Posted on 8/17/22 at 10:06 pm to BuckyCheese
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The Gilligan/Gould ballwashers will downvote you to oblivion, but the last several episodes were a huge letdown. The cartel portion of the series was excellent and frankly better than BB. The rest of BCS was ok but rather tedious.
I think a lot of people are forgetting how (painfully at times) slow of a burn the first few seasons of BCS were. In a lot of ways the last few episodes returned to form from what had become Breaking Bad lite. It was really like two separate shows. The cartel stuff in the later seasons is just so far removed from Jimmy vs Chuck, and Kim/Mesa Verde.
This post was edited on 8/17/22 at 10:07 pm
Posted on 8/17/22 at 10:19 pm to CaptSpaulding
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It was really like two separate shows. The cartel stuff in the later seasons is just so far removed from Jimmy vs Chuck, and Kim/Mesa Verde.
Exactly. Like I said, the early seasons were rather tedious at times. At least then we knew Saul the Cartel Lawyer was coming at some point so it kept interest.
Shifting gears from the cartel/Lalo/Gus to the slower paced, rather mediocre, Gene storyline in the last few episodes was jarring and a letdown.
The Lalo/Gus story had quite a bit of suspense as there were a lot of twists and turns. The Gene story had little of that. Just some low level heists and a lot of eating Cinnabons while waiting for him to be arrested.
eta-A while back someone suggested that the Gene story could have been played out throughout the season in the intros. I agree with that.
This post was edited on 8/17/22 at 10:21 pm
Posted on 8/17/22 at 10:27 pm to Day Time
I really think the COVID year / layover had a lot to do with people forgetting about the earlier seasons
It wasn’t bad television at all. It was compelling, but it didn’t spell it out for you. It is the definition of a slow burn
The middle portion of the series, if it were a standalone, had higher peaks than Breaking Bad.
It’s certainly not a show for everyone.
It wasn’t bad television at all. It was compelling, but it didn’t spell it out for you. It is the definition of a slow burn
The middle portion of the series, if it were a standalone, had higher peaks than Breaking Bad.
It’s certainly not a show for everyone.
Posted on 8/17/22 at 11:28 pm to Day Time
The most unrealistic part of the finale was Saul being able to negotiate the charges and evidence against him down to 7 years. Given only the code and statutory mins they said on the show, 24 years would have been a gift. I love Saul, but there’s been some revisionist history on his courtroom prowess. He made his hay convincing ADA’s to avoid some hassle and just plea it down. I was in a US district office for 5+ years, and the pleas on rico predicates and accessory to murder charges were infrequent at best, and only a possibility with corresponding testimony against another potential defendant. Not to mention, a fed judge going along with such a wild sentencing recommendation.
I may be off and don’t plan on watching it again to confirm, but I think people flummoxed by him giving up a sweetheart deal are digging their heels in on an outcome that wasn’t realistic in the first place.
I may be off and don’t plan on watching it again to confirm, but I think people flummoxed by him giving up a sweetheart deal are digging their heels in on an outcome that wasn’t realistic in the first place.
Posted on 8/17/22 at 11:40 pm to Day Time
And you thought this needed its own thread?
Posted on 8/18/22 at 3:23 am to kung fu kenny
Was it said that he’s in prison for life now instead of 7 years?
Posted on 8/18/22 at 5:51 am to Cow Drogo
At the end of the last episode, when Kim is visiting him in prison, Jimmy says he has an 86 year sentence, but he hopes to get off earlier for good time.
Posted on 8/18/22 at 6:24 am to Day Time
Yeah. Sucked. Boring. Trash. Whatever.
Posted on 8/18/22 at 7:17 am to FnTigers
I liked the ending and I get it, its tv and you have to create drama, but I think the most far fetched thing was saying how you dont want the 7 year and force yourself to get life.
Posted on 8/18/22 at 7:51 am to Tiger Nation 84
Then why was it still in black and white at the end?
Posted on 8/18/22 at 8:05 am to ELVIS U
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Then why was it still in black and white at the end?
If you rewatch the final scene, you will notice that the end of the cigarette is in color. Could signify the remnants of the Saul/Kim days turning into ashes, or maybe a rebirth of a new Kim/Jimmy relationship and a new scam/con.
In the end, Kim and Jimmy are both grifters, but with a conscience. I would not put past her to lawyer/con Jimmy out of prison just to prove she can.
Posted on 8/18/22 at 8:16 am to Day Time
Jimmy maybe in prison for life but the inmates worship him and he can freely be Saul still. He looked miserable as Gene.
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