re: Best explaination of TDKR

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The entire 2nd act is a plot hole


And it was boooooooring

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clearly you refer to TDKR here. FWIW the extras fighting in the background could easily be mistaken for extras in Cats

I like this guy's take on the movie:

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I've managed to catch "The Dark Knight Rises" and frankly, I found it a bit disappointing

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another issue is how they fix Batman's broken back by; and I'm serious here, hoisting him up via a harness and then punching him in the back and letting him lie in the harness until he can stand. CONGRATS! Why didn't all the doctors think of that way? Why bother to heal people when you can just frickING PUNCH THEIR MEDICAL PROBLEMS AWAY!?!?

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And the fight scenes aren't much better. Case example 1, where the police march against Bane's army. Both sides have firearms although the police are carrying handpistols and Bane's army are carrying ak-47s apparently. Apparently, the police decide to walk in a huge crowd, like protestors; despite the fact that doing so is suicidal against sprays of bullets and grenades, and instead of shooting from a distance, they decide to run and fight the thugs hand to hand. -_- WTF indeed.

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or this one:

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Rob Hunter ?@FakeRobHunter The fight choreography in TDKR is so bad it makes MIAMI CONNECTION look like a Donnie Yen film by comparison.

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Batman and Bane are mediocre, but watch the background fighters during their 2nd fight. Laughably bad.

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or read this one for another guy annoyed by a film with as many holes as a cheesecloth strainer:

99 reasons TDKR sucked

These are nitpicks. I have plenty of issues with TDKR and as I've said the business in the second fight is bad but a pothole only bothers me when it is a major plot device. it's a good movie. TDK is a great movie

I can understand why some don't like it but simultaneously liking the avengers?

I still want my explanation on the entire second act of the avengers. And as for the little nitpicks in the avengers, which are numerous, they don't bother me because that's not important as what's going on, but loki's plan to be apprehended by the avengers makes no fricking sense and is ultimately pointless to the conclusion of the film because it's the same fricking thing either way. He fights the avengers. Conversely the joker plans on being caught as well but there is a purpose. To get the chinaman. To tell the cops about dent and send them off while he blows the joint with Lao.

See this plot device works in TDK and is at least entertaining in the beginning of TDKR (because the point is to show how well equipped and radical bane and his mercenaries are) but blows in sky fall and the avengers

BTW, I do believe that the avengers directly ripped this off from TDK as did skyfall. "hey that was cool, let me put that into my bigger and better superhero movie"

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Now someone explain to me why Loki planned to get caught and how it advanced his plan and lead into the boring over the top aircraft carrier in the sky scene

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he wanted them to get his sceptor so he could use it against them (remember the scene where they were all in the lab about to tear each others throats out), he wanted to make banner mad and change into the hulk so he would help destroy the aircraft carrier, he wanted to plant doubt in everyones minds about their ability to coexist as a team, he wanted to keep them focused on him and not what his team was doing, he wanted to test each and everyone of their resolve in personnel matters.

FWIW: I went into each movie to be entertained not to pick them apart and justify why I may have thought they sucked or were good. each franchise has bad movies anyone remember the original batman franchise. Mr freeze, penguin, poison ivy, and robin.

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Now someone explain to me why Loki planned to get caught and how it advanced his plan and lead into the boring over the top aircraft carrier in the sky scene

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Well, that's easy. He was using his staff, given to him by Thanos, to turn the Avengers on each other so they would kill each other. Loki's main weapon was the Hulk. Stark, and Rogers however, figured it out and spoiled the plan just in time.

And I LOVE me some Nolan. I'm just able to recognize when he shite in tinfoil, wrapped it up, put hooks in them, and tried to pass it off as earrings.

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The avengers was a better movie

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lol not even close.

maybe your expectation level for the avengers was lower so your perception is that it's better, but on no planet is the avengers any kind of good movie and in fact it gets worse and worse every time i watch it.

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The Avenger's purpose was to be an entertaining comic book movie.

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And it failed. They amassed this elite team to fight a shitty villain with a shitty army and you never have the sense that any of them are in danger. Watching the Avengers is like going on a ferris wheel, you're just stuck in your seat watching the scenery go by.

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One succeeded and the other failed.

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One is probably one of the most overrated movies ever and the other gets nitpicked to death because it wasn't perfect.

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People who argue that The Avengers was better than TDKR are the same type of people who argue that the BCS National Champ could beat an NFL team who loses in the 2nd Round of the playoffs.

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The avengers was a better movie

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For nine year olds with the attention span of a gnat