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re: Batman Begins and The Dark Knight
Posted on 7/17/12 at 10:50 am to alajones
Posted on 7/17/12 at 10:50 am to alajones
I mean the threads are to be expected so it doesn't bother me. It's the biggest movie event in a while; this is the movie board. Who cares if there are a couple threads a day on it. Just like super bowl threads on the msb. Or before the lsu/bama game on the rant. It's gonna happen.
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Posted on 7/17/12 at 11:24 am to Tiger Ryno
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there is a storm coming mr. alajones
This line was in Batman Begins!
Posted on 7/17/12 at 11:29 am to Pectus
Anyone else notice joffrey baratheon in batman begins
This post was edited on 7/17/12 at 11:32 am
Posted on 7/17/12 at 11:50 am to RollTide1987
I do have a problem with Batman Begins in the way it handles Alfred and that Harvey Dent should have been greatly involved. Then again The Dark Knight often off sets me by its pacing. They're honestly both about equal in my book and great films.
Posted on 7/17/12 at 11:54 am to OMLandshark
I've been hoping that at some point, Earle will return. You'd think he'd have it out for Wayne and Lucious.
Posted on 7/17/12 at 11:56 am to CGB Spender
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Anyone else notice joffrey baratheon in batman begins
Nice catch man. You should post it in here.
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Posted on 7/17/12 at 11:57 am to DanglingFury
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The Joker/Two-Face > Ra's al Ghul. I'd always rather see an iconic villain over a more obscure one.
Why is this? Ra's is Batman's second greatest foe and probably greatest threat. Ra's is anything but obscure, although I imagine most of America doesn't know who he is. Would you rather have a non-obscure villain like the Riddler who is of no real threat to Batman or Gotham over someone who very much is and actually has a point to his madness. All Riddler is is a paranoid skisophrenic (sp?) know wants to outsmart Batman, but miserably fails each time. Well known doesn't mean good.
This post was edited on 7/17/12 at 11:58 am
Posted on 7/17/12 at 12:02 pm to TK421
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While I agree with this, it reinforces my frustration with Nolan underusing Scarecrow. That was one creepy mother fricker that deserved more screen time, imo.
Still, Scarecrow is better used for themes than threats. He's a person with basically one plan and can be quickly overcome by Batman. Sure Scarecrow should beat and scare the everloving shite out of Batman at least once, but he should be overcome once Batman figures out his plan.
Posted on 7/17/12 at 12:06 pm to OMLandshark
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Ra's is Batman's second greatest foe and probably greatest threat.
I don't think even most Batman fans would agree with that.
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Would you rather have a non-obscure villain like the Riddler
Absolutely.
You can make a paranoid schizophrenic dangerous in Nolan's Batman. I've never liked the mysticism aspect of Ra's al Ghul.
This post was edited on 7/17/12 at 12:09 pm
Posted on 7/17/12 at 12:07 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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I've never heard this argument before. I'm fine with someone not liking an acting performance. But saying he was abysmal is ridiculous. The dude was not abysmal. So one scene with some comic relief takes away a possible claim for it to be a real ish superhero movie. Out of all the scenes that's the one you think takes away the real factor? He dresses as a nurse, shoots a couple of people, and is completely fine with blowing his brains out if it happens. The scene made you laugh but also showed what a psychopath he was. Far from cartoonish.
Disagreed in the fact that it's a little cartoonish with Joker there in the dress and wig (straight out of Looney Tunes), but the Joker is crazy and stands out enough that that type of humor works for him and makes him more appealing. Looney Tunes gags should work with Joker because he's too fricked I the head to separate those things from reality.
Posted on 7/17/12 at 12:08 pm to gatorrocks
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gatorrocks
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Best Scene in Batman Begins...
That's a really good one, although I think my favorite scene/fight scene is the begining of Batman Begins.
Batman wrecks 6 chinamen
The best fight scene in the entire franchise is at the very begining of the trilogy!
Posted on 7/17/12 at 12:11 pm to DanglingFury
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I don't think even most Batman fans would agree with that.
Please name one aside from the Joker. He's clearly his second greatest foe.
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Absolutely
Then I don't know why you're interested in Nolan's franchise. Go watch the Schumacher films if you want that shite. This Batman is all about terror and crime, not wacky gags and stupid breadcrumb trails that merely annoy Batman and are not a real threat.
Posted on 7/17/12 at 12:18 pm to alajones
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It's only going ot get worse. We should probably start lobbying for a Batman board.
With all threads being started by Rolltide. And I thought I had a ridiculous obsession with Batman, he makes me look completely sane.
Posted on 7/17/12 at 12:20 pm to OMLandshark
Does anyone else get sick of the self-proclaimed Batman film experts that pollute these threads. Give us all a break and watch something else. Jesus fricking Christ...
Posted on 7/17/12 at 12:22 pm to SJS Eagle 85
How about you go frick yourself?
Posted on 7/17/12 at 12:24 pm to OMLandshark
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With all threads being started by Rolltide. And I thought I had a ridiculous obsession with Batman, he makes me look completely sane
Posted on 7/17/12 at 12:25 pm to OMLandshark
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. Ra's is anything but obscure, although I imagine most of America doesn't know who he is.
ummm.....
Posted on 7/17/12 at 12:34 pm to OMLandshark
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Why is this? Ra's is Batman's second greatest foe and probably greatest threat
But why are we talking how they are in the comics? The debate that broke out is apparently between Nolan's two movies. As far as his movies go, joker/two face > ra's al guhl. That statement was made to say that because of that, TDK is better than BB. Who cares who's the bigger villain in the comics. That doesn't determine which movie is better.
Posted on 7/17/12 at 12:35 pm to OMLandshark
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Please name one aside from the Joker. He's clearly his second greatest foe.
As far as Batman's rogue's gallery and their "Q scores" go, I'd put Riddler, Penguin, Catwoman, Two-Face, Harley Quinn, Mr. Freeze, Clayface, Bane, and Scarecrow all above Ra's. Ra's might be his most "dangerous," but he's not all that well known outside of comic book fans.
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Then I don't know why you're interested in Nolan's franchise. Go watch the Schumacher films if you want that shite.
This might be the first time I've been accused of not being a good/smart enough movie fan.
I would rather a villain like the Riddler in Nolan's universe because I think he fits better in the "real world" that Nolan uses. One of my favorite things about TDK was that as far as a movie goes...it was more along the lines of Heat than a superhero movie. I think you could easily do that with a character like the Riddler vs. Ra's. If they have something like the Lazarus Pit in TDKR, I wouldn't be a fan.
Posted on 7/17/12 at 12:39 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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As far as his movies go, joker/two face > ra's al guhl. That statement was made to say that because of that, TDK is better than BB.
Let's say all things are equal...two incredible Batman movies, same director, same premise, same cast, etc. Would you rather see Batman square off against the Joker or Maxie Zeus?
Eta: for me personally, part of my enjoyment of the movie is I'd rather see Batman against villains that I know/like more.
This post was edited on 7/17/12 at 12:46 pm
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