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Posted on 12/12/14 at 9:47 am to
Posted by More beer please
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Posted on 12/12/14 at 9:47 am to
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I'm 90 % positive that was Merlin in the promo and I think the reason he was sending Oliver to his battle to the death with Ra's was a test to see how much he loved Thea knowing she's Merlin's daughter. He knew Oliver didn't have a prayer in hell to kill Ra's and that is why he is there waiting to either help Oliver or take him to the Pits. But Oliver is definetly not dead


I agree with all of this.


Now on to my question. Did Ra's sort of but not really have mercy on Oliver? He played around with him for the entirety of the fight, then put the sword through the side opposite of his heart. Dude is the greatest assassin there is and he left a glimmer of hope. Granted it is an extremely small chance Oliver survives without the pits anyway, but just seemed odd to me.

Next question, why did Oliver look like such a little bitch in that fight? Ra's seemed like he could have killed him anytime he wanted. Guess I had higher expectations
Posted by wish i was tebow
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Posted on 12/12/14 at 9:58 am to
That's the part I didn't like. Oliver is always controlled and he looked like the 5 year old so mad at his brother that he just blindly runs and it. Old brother just keeps moving away with ease



As you might can tell I have older brothers
Posted by More beer please
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Posted on 12/12/14 at 10:11 am to
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Oliver is always controlled and he looked like the 5 year old so mad at his brother that he just blindly runs and it. Old brother just keeps moving away with ease


Perfect analogy
Posted by wish i was tebow
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Posted on 12/12/14 at 10:40 am to
I mean that's exactly what it felt like to me. I think it was done on purpose but for me personally I would have had Oliver not look like such a wild swinging clown.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
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Posted on 12/12/14 at 11:47 am to
Maybe Oliver knew he was done and wanted Ra's to end it quickly.

Also, does anyone think that Atom becomes a part of the team, or at least a hero in his own right?
This post was edited on 12/12/14 at 11:48 am
Posted by Tedock
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Posted on 12/12/14 at 12:13 pm to
You have to understand that Ras is centuries old and his experience in combat dwarfs Oliver's. There was no way Oliver could match Ras in single combat, the fact that he looks so outmatched is because he is, and by a wide margin. That's what makes Ras so terrifying.
Posted by Bamatab
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Posted on 12/12/14 at 12:16 pm to
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Also, does anyone think that Atom becomes a part of the team, or at least a hero in his own right?

He'll become a hero, but I doubt they have room on the show to make him a permanent part of Team arrow. Heck, they already have Oliver, Diggle, Felicity, Roy, and Laurel is on deck. I can't imagine them being able to throw The Atom in the middle of Team Arrow.

I would love to see them do a spin off series with him. I've actually liked the character, and think Roth has done a pretty good job with it.
Posted by wish i was tebow
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Posted on 12/12/14 at 12:17 pm to
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You have to understand that Ras is centuries old and his experience in combat dwarfs Oliver's. There was no way Oliver could match Ras in single combat, the fact that he looks so outmatched is because he is, and by a wide margin. That's what makes Ras so terrifying.



I understand that but that doesnt just automatically make Oliver ran and swing at him without any thought. If you watch it again he is constantly just blindly attacking Ra's.

Kinda like how lSU refused to pound the rock again Ole Miss last year and just threw pick after pick when we were running the ball down their throat
Posted by Esquire
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Posted on 12/12/14 at 12:32 pm to
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I understand that but that doesnt just automatically make Oliver ran and swing at him without any thought. If you watch it again he is constantly just blindly attacking Ra's.


I think we also need to take into account he just climbed a mountain and was probably weirded out that they made him fight shirtless.
Posted by PsychTiger
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Posted on 12/12/14 at 12:38 pm to
Bitches probably took a helicopter up there while they watched Ollie climb, laughing their asses off.
Posted by Bamatab
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Posted on 12/12/14 at 12:40 pm to
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they made him fight shirtless.

Yeah, that was just goofy. Nothing but the producers wanting another shirtless scene for Amell.

But I did think it was a little cowardly of Ra's to make Oliver tire himself out by scaling a mounting, and then forcing him to fight to the death bareback immediately afterward.
This post was edited on 12/12/14 at 12:41 pm
Posted by More beer please
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Posted on 12/12/14 at 12:41 pm to
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But I did think it was a little cowardly of Ra's to make Oliver tire himself out by scaling a mounting, and then forcing him to fight to the death bareback immediately afterward.


Especially because he has no way of knowing how long Ra's had been there.
Posted by wish i was tebow
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Posted on 12/12/14 at 12:53 pm to
I really don't know if I can wait until 1/21 to see what happens
Posted by Murray
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Posted on 12/12/14 at 1:19 pm to
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I think we also need to take into account he just climbed a mountain and was probably weirded out that they made him fight shirtless.


Maybe the actor that plays Ras is terrible at fight choreography and Arnell had to look that retarded to make him look better?
Posted by UMRealist
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Posted on 12/12/14 at 1:26 pm to
I thought the choreography was pretty good. It just showed Oliver was a novice sword fighter while Ra's has been doin it for lifetimes.
Posted by Murray
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Posted on 12/12/14 at 1:31 pm to
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I thought the choreography was pretty good. It just showed Oliver was a novice sword fighter while Ra's has been doin it for lifetimes.


Honestly, I don't remember the fight looking that bad either. I was commenting based off Tebows post. Gonna rewatch that scene later when I get off.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
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Posted on 12/12/14 at 2:51 pm to
I was put off with how unsettled and undisciplined Ollie was fighting. It looked like Ollie training Roy.
Posted by UMRealist
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Posted on 12/12/14 at 2:58 pm to
I think that's how they wanted it to look.
Posted by wish i was tebow
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Posted on 12/12/14 at 3:22 pm to
Exactly Byron. I think it was on purpose but I wasnt a fan
Posted by ellunchboxo
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Posted on 12/12/14 at 3:28 pm to
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Honestly, I don't remember the fight looking that bad either. I was commenting based off Tebows post. Gonna rewatch that scene later when I get off.


Eewwwwww.

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